Classic vs Classic 2nd Edition

Ok, so if I corrected all the mistakes I made in my first PBF game with you, we should see the second game created HERE!

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Hello, well i translate the manual of A&A PC 1998, from German to English. The new 3° edition rules are:

"…new features in the rules of the 3rd edition

Diving submarines: defending submarines can dive during the fight or withdraw from the fight. A submerged submarine remains in the same sea zone until it resurfaces after the fight.

Air units can withdraw from an amphibious attack: figthers and bombers can retreat from an amphibious attack if the things are shell-dead to the attacker.

Several AAA in one territory: you can now place several AAAs on a territory. However, only one of these AAA can fire during defence.

New sea units can be placed in disputed sea zones: they can now place their sea units in sea zones occupied by the friend. In this case, the fight takes place during the enemy’s strike, in case the enemy does not draw his unites before the fight from the zone.
Note: you still need to place your sea units in the immediate vicinity of one of your industrial complexes.

Western Canada no longer borders directly on the Atlantic Ocean: this prevents a player from moving units from the Atlantic directly to Western Canada…"

Now the plastic figures are finite and listed in the box (box that have a sheman tank, and not the futuristic panzer 3 we use and love); but the plastic chips number is diferenti in the boxes, some have 10 red others 7, i have 6, some have 50 blancas other 65, i have 72, soooo….

The cruiser and generic AAA units in the first printing of Guadalcanal similarly got colour-switched. It made no difference for the AAA sculpts, since they were a generic common design, but in the case of the other unit the game had a Japanese-orange American-design Portland-class cruiser and an American-green Japanese-design Takao-class cruiser.

It’s too bad that the colour-switched green German and grey American infantry units are rare production errors, and thus aren’t widely available: they would be perfect for use in A&A Battle of the Bulge as house-ruled special units representing Otto Skorzeny’s disguised infiltration units.

Hiya Forum,

Here is a video I have created on youtube of the set up of AnA Classic Spring 1942. I hope it come to some help for you to enjoy the game!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CETJ9fgI7rc

BH

Hiya Forum,

Here is a video I have created on youtube of the set up of AnA Classic Spring 1942. I hope it come to some help for you to enjoy the game!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z44jYh5YZrU

Recruiting new players, even with 2nd edition is/was always hard, because of the skill level. Even if the opening moves for every country are optimized it is far from clear for new players. It takes a while to comprehend the mechanics of pushing, retreating, feints, death zones etc. If a new player is willing to pretty much lose the first 20 games he/she will become a worthy opponent, but most people are not that persistent to learn a game that takes a pretty long time to understand. When they finally are decent enough to understand why bids are a necessity it will have taken a long time. Times have changed as well… When I grew up I didn’t have internet or a computer, so when it rained we had to play board games, nowaday it is almost an exception if teens play a board game.

@dezrtfish:

Russia
Buy 8Inf

Attack Baltic Fleet with Sub transport and fighters

Move all from Russia to Karelia, all but 1Inf from Caucasus to Karelia

Leave 1 Inf In soviet far east stack Novo with all inf that can reach + 1 Armor.

Place all in Karelia

Why only attack the navy?

@dezrtfish:

Germany
Build Infantry

Send any remaining ships plus all air that can reach to kill brit fleet.

If possible use bomber to kill Canadian transport.

Take Egypt and if feeling ballzy take Transjordan with 2Inf and BB in Seurope.

Move everything in Europe east, leave the 2 infantry in france.

Place 2 Inf in SEurope, the rest in Ger.

Fig from France can reach Can tran, so why waste a bomber? Just go fo Egypt with 4 inf and 1 tank

@dezrtfish:

UK

Option 1
Purchase 1 AC and 1 Transport

Option 2
Purchase 1 IC and save

Fly fighters to Karelia

Bomb Germany

If option 1 place AC and wait for US fighters
If Option 2 Place IC in India (reinforce from Australia earlier)

Option 1 is better than option 2. IC in India is just stretching the game… Get Africa back. If you have to sacrifice your bomber so be it! Optional imo is the kwangbang, but Dert didn’t mention Russia attacking manch. Get a fig and save rest is my preferred buy to get a better naval buy on UK2.

@dezrtfish:

Japan

Buy 2 Transports and 3 Infantry

If UK built AC take just enough to kill the ships in Hawaii

If no Brit AC hit Pearl heavy
Start pulling infantry from Islands to Kwang and Manchuria

Take Soviet far east Lightly in hope of drawing russains out.

If UK builds IC in India push heavy into French indo China

Kill US fighter in China

Place all in Japan, because there’s no where else to put it.

Just go heavy after the US fleet in Hawaii. Get inf from islands and take China heavy! If Russia and UK took Manch and Kwangtung its kinda over already…

@dezrtfish:

USA

Buy transports and infantry

If UK built AC move troops from East US to UK, move 2 fighters EUS, WUS to AC

If UK Built IC invade Africa and counter pearl if Japan took it light.  3ftrs, 1 bmb 1bb etc.

Start moving troops to East Canada to Set up Shuck, if you don’t know the shuck do a search.

Move all remaining Pacific ship toward Panama, use transport to screen BB if your worried.

Place builds in east US

I am more of a favorite of going all inf build and maybe a fig on US1. Why? It easier for your shuck shuck… You walk inf to Can and only need 4 trans!

2nd ed without a bid is not really fair… We all agreed on that I think…

Yes, I would also agree that a rd 3 lurch is too early for Germany.

In this game, EEU was stacked so well that it was unfeasible for Russia to attack it ever. This was also a good strat becuase the tanks just sat there for defense until they were needed in Karelia or WEU, and more and more inf just kept piling up there.

The 4 German inf bid in Libya also made things difficult for the allies. UK could have used its bomber against German ships but it was too preoccupied with liberating Africa.