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@SS-GEN Never mind. I am just strictly pointing out the rules as I want to avoid confusion in a forum category that is dedicated to G40 OOB.

TripleA Turn Summary: Communists round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Domination 1914 No Man’s Land, version: 1.4

Game History

Round: 1

    Research Technology - Communists
        Communists spend 10 on tech rolls
            Communists roll 5,3 and gets 0 hits

    Combat Move - Communists
        1 cavalry moved from Yakutsk to Sakhe
        1 cavalry moved from Yakutsk to Tiksi
        4 cavalrys, 10 conscripts and 2 field_guns moved from Yakutsk to Aldan

    Purchase Units - Communists
        Communists buy 3 conscripts and 6 field_guns; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 2 techTokens; 

    Combat - Communists
        Battle in Sakhe
            Communists attack with 1 cavalry
            Russia defend with 1 trench
                1 trench owned by the Russia lost in Sakhe
            Communists win, taking Sakhe from Russia with 1 cavalry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russia: 1 trench
        Battle in Tiksi
            Communists attack with 1 cavalry
            Russia defend with 1 trench
                1 trench owned by the Russia lost in Tiksi
            Communists win, taking Tiksi from Russia with 1 cavalry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russia: 1 trench
        Battle in Aldan
            Communists attack with 4 cavalrys, 10 conscripts and 2 field_guns
            Russia defend with 1 cavalry
                Communists roll dice for 4 cavalrys, 10 conscripts and 2 field_guns in Aldan, round 2 : 1/8 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Russia roll dice for 1 cavalry in Aldan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 cavalry owned by the Russia lost in Aldan
            Communists win, taking Aldan from Russia with 4 cavalrys, 10 conscripts and 2 field_guns remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Russia: 1 cavalry

    Non Combat Move - Communists

    Place Units - Communists
        3 conscripts and 6 field_guns placed in Yakutsk

    Turn Complete - Communists
        Communists collect 23 PUs; end with 23 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Communists : -0.67
Russia : -0.17

Savegame

@SS-GEN said in Can air units fly over a strict neutral, if other units are also attacking that neutral?:

Still don’t agree. Not a strict neutral now.

No one said that. With the German attack Turkey turned from a strict neutral into a pro-Allies neutral.

@SS-GEN said in Can air units fly over a strict neutral, if other units are also attacking that neutral?:

@Panther said in Can air units fly over a strict neutral, if other units are also attacking that neutral?:

@matttodd1 said in Can air units fly over a strict neutral, if other units are also attacking that neutral?:

If Turkey was attacked previously by Germany (failed takeover - units remain), so it is now pro-allied, can the Italians fly over Turkey, to get to Iraq?
It seems probably no, based on your quote above, that you cannot fly over unfriendly neutrals.

Correct.

Ya but that should be changed. It’s not a neutral technically. It’s an allies controlled territory. If it has an aa gun which it should on setup anyway gets to shot at enemy planes. Just sayin

No, it is not allied controlled. It is a pro-Allies neutral at that time. The Allies (an Allied power) still have (has) to take control by moving a land unit into it during noncombat move phase.

@matttodd1 said in Can air units fly over a strict neutral, if other units are also attacking that neutral?:

If Turkey was attacked previously by Germany (failed takeover - units remain), so it is now pro-allied, can the Italians fly over Turkey, to get to Iraq?
It seems probably no, based on your quote above, that you cannot fly over unfriendly neutrals.

Correct.

@matttodd1 You are welcome…
and welcome to the forum

TripleA Turn Summary: Turkey round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Domination 1914 No Man’s Land, version: 1.4

Game History

Round: 1

    Research Technology - Turkey
        Turkey spend 10 on tech rolls
            Turkey roll 5,6 and gets 1 hit
        Turkey removing all Technology Tokens after successful research.
        Turkey discover science

    Combat Move - Turkey
        1 field_gun and 2 infantry moved from Mesopotamia to Al-Dammam
        1 fighter moved from Baghdad to Al-Dammam
        1 cavalry moved from Syria to Al-Dammam
        1 cavalry moved from Damascus to Al-Dammam
        1 cavalry moved from Jordan to Arabia
              Turkey take Arabia from Arabia
        1 cavalry moved from Arabia to Al-Dammam
        1 field_gun and 1 infantry moved from Trucial Coast to Al-Dammam
        1 cavalry moved from Oman to Al-Dammam
        1 infantry moved from Qatar to Al-Dammam
        1 infantry moved from Oman to Sea Zone 72 Persian Gulf
        1 infantry moved from Sea Zone 72 Persian Gulf to Al-Dammam
        1 battlecruiser and 1 cruiser moved from Sea Zone 68 Aegean Sea to Sea Zone 69 Sea of Crete
        1 battleship and 2 cruisers moved from Sea Zone 67 Black Sea to Sea Zone 69 Sea of Crete
        1 infantry moved from Sinai to Hejaz
              Turkey take Hejaz from Arabia
        1 cruiser moved from Sea Zone 72 Persian Gulf to Sea Zone 73 Arabian Sea
        1 field_gun and 4 infantry moved from Armenia to Georgia

    Purchase Units - Turkey
        Turkey buy 6 cavalrys and 2 trenchs; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 techTokens; 

    Combat - Turkey
        Battle in Al-Dammam
            Turkey attack with 4 cavalrys, 2 field_guns, 1 fighter and 5 infantry
            Arabia defend with 7 Bedouins
                Turkey roll dice for 4 cavalrys, 2 field_guns, 1 fighter and 5 infantry in Al-Dammam, round 2 : 1/12 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                Arabia roll dice for 7 Bedouins in Al-Dammam, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                1 Bedouin owned by the Arabia and 1 cavalry owned by the Turkey lost in Al-Dammam
                Turkey roll dice for 3 cavalrys, 2 field_guns, 1 fighter and 5 infantry in Al-Dammam, round 3 : 3/11 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                Arabia roll dice for 6 Bedouins in Al-Dammam, round 3 : 2/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                3 Bedouins owned by the Arabia and 2 cavalrys owned by the Turkey lost in Al-Dammam
                Turkey roll dice for 1 cavalry, 2 field_guns, 1 fighter and 5 infantry in Al-Dammam, round 4 : 4/9 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                Arabia roll dice for 3 Bedouins in Al-Dammam, round 4 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                3 Bedouins owned by the Arabia lost in Al-Dammam
            Turkey win, taking Al-Dammam from Arabia with 1 cavalry, 2 field_guns, 1 fighter and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for Turkey: 3 cavalrys
            Casualties for Arabia: 7 Bedouins
        Battle in Sea Zone 73 Arabian Sea
            Turkey attack with 1 cruiser
            Britain defend with 1 battlecruiser
                Turkey roll dice for 1 cruiser in Sea Zone 73 Arabian Sea, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Britain roll dice for 1 battlecruiser in Sea Zone 73 Arabian Sea, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the Turkey lost in Sea Zone 73 Arabian Sea
            Britain win with 1 battlecruiser remaining. Battle score for attacker is -10
            Casualties for Turkey: 1 cruiser
        Battle in Sea Zone 69 Sea of Crete
            Turkey attack with 1 battlecruiser, 1 battleship and 3 cruisers
            Serbia defend with 1 cruiser
                Turkey roll dice for 1 battlecruiser, 1 battleship and 3 cruisers in Sea Zone 69 Sea of Crete, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                Serbia roll dice for 1 cruiser in Sea Zone 69 Sea of Crete, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Turkey
                1 cruiser owned by the Serbia lost in Sea Zone 69 Sea of Crete
            Turkey win with 1 battlecruiser, 1 battleship and 3 cruisers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
            Casualties for Serbia: 1 cruiser
        Battle in Georgia
            Turkey attack with 1 field_gun and 4 infantry
            Russia defend with 1 conscript and 1 infantry
                Turkey roll dice for 1 field_gun and 4 infantry in Georgia, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Russia roll dice for 1 conscript and 1 infantry in Georgia, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 conscript owned by the Russia lost in Georgia
                Turkey roll dice for 1 field_gun and 4 infantry in Georgia, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Russia roll dice for 1 infantry in Georgia, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russia and 1 infantry owned by the Turkey lost in Georgia
            Turkey win, taking Georgia from Russia with 1 field_gun and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for Russia: 1 conscript and 1 infantry
            Casualties for Turkey: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Turkey
        1 fighter moved from Al-Dammam to Mesopotamia
        1 infantry moved from Baghdad to Mesopotamia
        3 infantry moved from Kurdistan to Mesopotamia
        1 infantry moved from Syria to Mesopotamia
        1 field_gun and 3 infantry moved from Constantinople to Dardanelles
        1 infantry moved from Jordan to Arabia
        1 heavy_gun and 1 infantry moved from Palestine to Sinai
        1 infantry moved from Lebanon to Palestine
        1 infantry moved from Anatolia to Constantinople
        1 infantry moved from Smyrna to Dardanelles
        1 infantry moved from Smyrna to Syria
        1 infantry moved from Anatolia to Smyrna
        2 infantry moved from Damascus to Palestine
        1 cavalry moved from Smyrna to Damascus
        1 cavalry moved from Anatolia to Kurdistan

    Place Units - Turkey
        2 trenchs placed in Sinai
        3 cavalrys placed in Damascus
        3 cavalrys placed in Baghdad

    Activate Technology - Turkey
        Turkey activating science
        Trigger TurkeyS: Turkey met a national objective for an additional 1 techTokens; end with 1 techTokens

    Turn Complete - Turkey
        Turkey collect 58 PUs; end with 58 PUs
        1 unit repaired.

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Turkey : -0.00
Arabia : -2.33
Britain : 0.33
Serbia : 0.50
Russia : 0.17

Savegame

@matttodd1
According to the Europe1940.2 rulebook (page 11)
“Strict neutrals are treated in exactly the same way as unfriendly neutrals, …”

And in that section we have: “Air units can’t fly over an unfriendly neutral
unless they are attacking it.”

All combat movement is considered to take place at the same time.
So “a particular plane” cannot fly over Turkey to attack Iraq, as at that time Turkey is still neutral.
The above (second) quote does not refer to an attacking power but to the air unit itself.

So in your case every air unit needs to attack Turkey to be allowed to fly over Turkey.

THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING!!!

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