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Global 2nd edition Q+A ( AAG40.2)
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Perfect!!! We didn’t have the FAQ - that is the exact answer I needed - Thank you for the amazingly fast response, and can you point me to the FAQ please? For bonus points? Thanks again!!
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@gamerman01 Unfortunately, I’m not sure where, if anywhere, the FAQs are currently posted. They are scheduled to be posted on this site at some point, but it hasn’t happened yet.
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The links to the FAQ sheets in the respective game categories are broken, except for Pacific 1940 2nd edition. This one, for any reason, is still valid:
https://media.wizards.com/2015/downloads/ah/AA_Pacific_1940_2nd_Edition_FAQ.pdf -
That’s only about 7 years old!
A lot of those questions are for global, including the allied transport one I asked recently, but yeah maybe we don’t have some of them yet for Europe - thanks!! -
But it is the latest one that ever has been published. There has been one for Europe 1940.2, too, but the link is broken, as AH failed to include the FAQ-sheets when they relaunched their site.
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Page 14 explains with bullet points your options when you start your turn with enemy surface ships in your zone.
One bullet point says you can leave, load units, and come back for combat.
Must you have a transport that can go load units, or can your warship(s) leave the zone and come back in a combat move in order to establish a zone or two to retreat to?
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@gamerman01 said in Global 2nd edition Q+A ( AAG40.2):
can your warship(s) leave the zone and come back in a combat move in order to establish a zone or two to retreat to?
Yes, that is a perfectly legal move.
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Thank you :+1:
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Ack - maybe I need to lay down my official Q&A banner.
Can’t figure out from looking in 4 different places in the rulebook and nothing in the FAQ -
One of your units is on an ally’s transport, and that is all the transport is carrying (one ally’s ground unit).
Can you load another infantry onto the allied transport and also unload the one that was previously on the transport? The transport is bridging and does not need to move out of the sea zone it’s in. -
I dont know, but would think no
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Yeah, me too, but sometimes I’m surprised
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Logically why not? If the allied unit were a unit of the same power but just didn’t offload, that power could still shuck another guy across. Transport doesn’t start operating differently just because an allied unit is on it.
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@gamerman01 said in Global 2nd edition Q+A ( AAG40.2):
Ack - maybe I need to lay down my official Q&A banner.
Can’t figure out from looking in 4 different places in the rulebook and nothing in the FAQ -
One of your units is on an ally’s transport, and that is all the transport is carrying (one ally’s ground unit).
Can you load another infantry onto the allied transport and also unload the one that was previously on the transport? The transport is bridging and does not need to move out of the sea zone it’s in.As an example, US 5. You move your US TT to Gib and unload an Inf and a Arty.
On UK 5 you load an Inf onto the US TT.
US 6, you load the US TT with an Inf alongside the one UK Cargo Unit and unload it to Morocco. UK 6 you unload the UK Inf onto Morocco as well.
Legal Move. -
@gamerman01 said in Global 2nd edition Q+A ( AAG40.2):
Ack - maybe I need to lay down my official Q&A banner.
Can’t figure out from looking in 4 different places in the rulebook and nothing in the FAQ -
One of your units is on an ally’s transport, and that is all the transport is carrying (one ally’s ground unit).
Can you load another infantry onto the allied transport and also unload the one that was previously on the transport? The transport is bridging and does not need to move out of the sea zone it’s in.This would be an illegal move.
Europe 1940 2nd Edition Rulebook (Page 33) (BOLD added by me)
A transport can load and offload units without moving from the friendly sea zone it’s in (this is known as “bridging”). Each such transport is still limited to its cargo capacity. It can offload in only one territory, and once it offloads, it can’t move, load, or offload again that turn.
Since an Allied Power unit offloaded into one territory a new Allied unit may not load again that Turn. The transport has already used up its capability when it offloaded.
(Edited to make it clear response is for Gamerman01)
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@andrewaagamer Turns and rounds are different, if it said “each round” I would agree. Each country gets a turn during a round. I think it’s a legal move.
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Adding more details for any “But load one Allied unit first and then offload the other Allied unit second” comments.
Europe 1940 2nd Edition Rulebook (Page 33) (BOLD added by me)
Land units belonging to friendly powers must load on their controller’s turn, be carried on your turn, and offload on a later turn of their controller. This is true even if the transport remains in the same sea zone.
The key here is to understand that while the transport is not leaving the sea zone it is moving from one coast line to another. Since that movement occurs on the transport owner’s Turn the transport cannot be on both coasts to both load and unload an Allied unit. It is one or the other.
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@lennardf I am replying to Gamerman01’s question, not aequitas-et-veritas’ example. aequitas-et-veritas’ example is legal.
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Thanks guys - yeah, AeV’s answer was good but not my situation.
Andrew, I am thinking the same way as you, but still not sure.
Because what if you imagined the transport picking up the infantry on the ground and then dropping the infantry that was on board?
You totally may be right, but I think I need to hear it from someone else too before I know for sure.
The allied unit that’s loading is waiting a turn to be unloading. The one on the transport would be unloading, so they are both indeed carried by the ally’s transport during their turn.
And back to the first post where you bolded, I don’t know that the transport is consided to be offloading first (and therefore DONE for the turn), or if it can be considered that it is loading first, then offloading the other.
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@gamerman01 @AndrewAAGamer is correct.
The rules say that allied units must remain on the transport for a round before offloading, even if the transport doesn’t have to move, strongly implying that the transport “moves within the sea zone” during the ally’s turn between the moving power’s turns. Applying that principle disallows a move such as this. However, if the two units loaded from and offloaded to the same territory, it would be OK. Of course, the only reason I can think of to do that is to trade an infantry for another unit type.
Needless to say, the unit not on the transport must load before the unit already on the transport offloads, as offloading disallows any further activity on/by the transport in the turn.
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@krieghund said in Global 2nd edition Q+A ( AAG40.2):
@gamerman01 @AndrewAAGamer is correct.
the transport “moves within the sea zone” during the ally’s turn between the moving power’s turns.
Thanks for the brilliant answer (and extremely fast) as always, Krieghund.
@AndrewAAGamer Your last answer, especially, was brilliant also, and spot on - I just didn’t fully comprehend it yesterday. Absolutely no disrespect meant, and again, thank you for taking the time and trouble to help me out.
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