Russia needs to have at least one unit in territories shared between it and the Central Powers, in order to indicate this shared status. However, there’s no reason why you need to leave any units in territories that Russia has full control of, other than simply not taking the time to remove them during the game.
@thrasher1 said in AAZ Rule Question: Desperate Meassures Card: DECOY TEAM:
To quote myself:
“During the turn of the player before you the Zs were victorious in combat (that is: Phase 5). However the Zs do NOT take control of that area as that only happens during Phase 3 of a turn! So during your turn the last country that had units there (or the original owner) still controls that area. While there are Zs now.”
Just to be 100 % sure. This is the case?
Not exactly. They don’t take control immediately if all player units are wiped out during combat, but they will take control in phase 3 of the next player’s turn. As a result, the power controlling the territory before the zombies wiped out all player units will only control it for part of your turn. By the time you do your combat moves, it will be zombie-controlled.
Zs do NOT take control (place a control marker) if they happen to be the only units left in an area after combat (Phase 5).
Was this intended by the game creators?
Yes.
My experience is that new players automatically want to place a control marker there then. Immediatelly after combat (Phase 5). This will have the effect that the Zs might reach the 25 IPC level ‘faster’…
It also gives the controller a chance to noncombat move other units in to retain the territory, as it is still friendly at that time.
@thrasher1 said in AAZ Rule Question: Desperate Meassures Card: DECOY TEAM:
Krieghund, can we rephrase this as:
Move one Z to an adjacent area that is not neutral?
Well, it’s half of the zombies in the territory, but essentially yes.
@thrasher1 said in AAZ Rule Question: getting the 1 infantry bonus:
On the rule itself: we interpreted this rule wrongly. At this moment two things spring into my mind:
(1) It seems to me getting this bonus (especially when combined with the Hidden Supply Cache card) is too easy. But please elaborate on this, Kriegshund.
(2) It seems a bit strange to me, even a bit ‘unfair’, that you do not get this one infantry bonus when totally clearing an area of Zs if this area was not Z-controlled. This seems a harder task then just surviving one round of combat.
This rule is intended to be more about theme than it is a bonus. Think of it as providing a safe place in the territory for survivors to gather.
@thrasher1 said in AAZ Rule Question: getting the 1 infantry bonus:
Krieghund, thanks for the answers (as always).
Can we just summarize this issue by saying:
You get the 1 infantry bonus if you remove the Z control marker?
So if a unit is not Z-controlled but has Zs in it… and even if you destroy them all: still no bonus.
Correct.
@DoManMacgee said in AAZ Rule Question: getting the 1 infantry bonus:
I think “Liberate” is referring to the game term where a country reclaims the territory of an ally from an enemy power (and removing their Control Marker).
Yes, that’s true, but I believe that the intent of the card is that you get the extra unit whether you liberate or capture the territory, as this is how the bonus infantry rule is written. I have submitted this for the FAQ, but for now I’d just play it as written.
@thrasher1 said in AAZ Rule Question: getting the 1 infantry bonus:
A related question:
Desperate Measures Card: Hidden Supply Cache:
You get additional unit if you ‘liberate a Z controlled territory’.
Again: also here surviving one round of combat is enough? You still get this one infantry bonus + additional unit bonus even if there are still Zs in that territory?
Yes.
Also: just destroying all Zs in a territory you or your ally already control is not enough I guess? As the card specificly says: ‘liberate a Z controlled territory’?
Correct.
@thrasher1 said in AAZ Rule Question: Desperate Meassures Card: DECOY TEAM:
This issue might be related to: https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/32918/aaz-rule-question-non-combat-movement-after-attacking-zs-in-an-area-you-control
The card says: “Choose a Z occupied territory”.
It does not say: Z controlled. So you can apply this card to ANY area that contains Zs?
Yes.
That very area does not have to be Z controlled? That area does not have to be controlled by you or an ally?
No to both.
And finally the adjacent area you may move half of the Zs to can be any adjacent area: controlled by you / controlled by an ally / enemy controlled? Or even: neutral?
(Regarding that latter: that is probably NOT the case…)
Yes to all, except possibly neutral. I’m not completely sure about neutral territories. The rules say that neutral territories can only be brought into play by zombie outbreaks, so it’s probable that moving zombies into one with this card is not allowed, though this isn’t directly addressed in the rules. I’m going to submit this for the FAQ, but in the meantime I’d say that it’s not allowed.
There hasn’t been a change. In fact, the rule was mentioned in the 1991 rules clarification document. You must have been playing it wrong!