Grasshopper's 8 Sided System (G40)

[Karl7]

Interesting, for a long time I’ve been thinking just using the regular A/D value system w/8 sided dice would loosen things up in terms of downplaying crazy luck, i.e. suppressing the number of lucky 1’s.  But never put much thought into it.  This looks interesting.

Why the adjusted A/D values for certain units though?  Keeping inf at 1 and cost 3 vs ftr now at 5 at cost 10 seems a little overpowered for the ftr.

That being said, I think this is an idea whose time has come.

[barney]

Actually the ftr is a little less powerful. It was 2 out of 3 = 66.7%
It’s now 5 out of 8 = 62.5%

Offense is same.

I agree. I like this idea a lot. Hope to try it soon

Edit
Ahh I see your point now. Sorry : )

[baron Münchhausen]

@Karl7:

Interesting, for a long time I’ve been thinking just using the regular A/D value system w/8 sided dice would loosen things up in terms of downplaying crazy luck, i.e. suppressing the number of lucky 1’s.  But never put much thought into it.  This looks interesting.

Why the adjusted A/D values for certain units though?  Keeping inf at 1 and cost 3 vs ftr now at 5 at cost 10 seems a little overpowered for the ftr.

That being said, I think this is an idea whose time has come.

IMO, the issue about lucky “1” swing is due to higher cost unit being submitted to such defense roll.
When giving more reasonable cost and combat value instead, loosing to a lucky “1” is easier to deal with bad luck.

[WoodyWanKenobi]

This 8-sided malarky is preposterous!

It will never work!

Not until someone makes those lovely rounded d8’s with the nations flag symbol in place of the ‘number 1’.  Then this will be one of the greatest tweaks to an already excellent game, and praise will rain down to it’s creators.

Until then….bin it…ludicrous.

:wink:

[General 6 Stars]

@WoodyWanKenobi:

This 8-sided malarky is preposterous!

It will never work!

Not until someone makes those lovely rounded d8’s with the nations flag symbol in place of the ‘number 1’.  Then this will be one of the greatest tweaks to an already excellent game, and praise will rain down to it’s creators.

Until then….bin it…ludicrous.

:wink:

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[sjelso]

Looks interesting.  Would like to get some blank dice to make hit dice.

Strategic bombing is so difficult and costly already I seldom use or see it used.  Lowering the % seems as though it would render it completely unusable.

Just my 2 cents…

[Imperious Leader]

The cruiser is more like a heavy cruiser or battlecruiser at 5-5 vs the battleship at 6-6

I suggest a new unit light cruiser at 4-4, your heavy cruiser at 5-5 and BB at 6-6

[General 6 Stars]

You are referring to the St Bomber getting a lower defense percentage shot ?
What if YG put in a SBR roll 1d8 +2 = damage per bomber ?

[Young Grasshopper]

@SS:

What if YG put in a SBR roll 1d8 +2 = damage per bomber ?

I LIKE IT!…this would definitely make bombing raids more palatable, and the need to intercept more prevalent.

[General 6 Stars]

@Young:

@SS:

What if YG put in a SBR roll 1d8 +2 = damage per bomber ?

I LIKE IT!…this would definitely make bombing raids more palatable, and the need to intercept more prevalent.

Sweet. I use the d8 SBR in my WW2 40 game for stag bombers and rockets tech. Thats why I got the dice. It kinda gives you that 1 less Bomber being used to get max damage based on accuracy and from being shot down. But I dont use the +2 because my bombers cost 10 icps.
H Bomber I use a d10.

[Hambone]

I just ordered the 8d and will try out your new values with the next home game and see how it goes.  Might need to print out a temporary battle board to keep everyone in line.  Lots to think about here!

[General 6 Stars]

Plus your AAA shot at a plane goes from a 16.7% hit to a 12.5% hit with a d8 die.

@sjelso:

Looks interesting.  Would like to get some blank dice to make hit dice.

Strategic bombing is so difficult and costly already I seldom use or see it used.  Lowering the % seems as though it would render it completely unusable.

Just my 2 cents…

[Young Grasshopper]

@Hambone:

I just ordered the 8d and will try out your new values with the next home game and see how it goes.  Might need to print out a temporary battle board to keep everyone in line.  Lots to think about here!

I talked them into having a sale starting January 28th to February 2nd… 10 dice for $14.

[Minotaur]

Hey Young Grass Hopper

I like the concept in general. My only concern is that effectively lowering the defense value of infantry by 33% while the tank attack value remains the same will make the defense of Russia even more untenable than it already is.

[Young Grasshopper]

Hey Guys, thanks for your advice and input, I have created a new thread in my new Cliffside Bunker forum… please continue the discussion there.

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=41410.msg1734336#msg1734336

BTW… 8 SIDED TRUNCATED DICE FROM DICE LABS IS NOW ON SALE UNTIL THE END OF THE WEEK!!!

http://www.mathartfun.com/DiceLabDice.html

[Dauvio Vann]

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT YG, YOU HAVE A FLAWED SYSTEM!!!

[GeneralHandGrenade]

I guess your word means nothing Vann. You promised to stay away. What is it going to take to make you stop harassing YG?

I hope you get banned this time for good.

[Dauvio Vann]

@GeneralHandGrenade:

I guess your word means nothing Vann. You promised to stay away. What is it going to take to make you stop harassing YG?

I hope you get banned this time for good.

This is not harassment like he said.  I am stating my opinion like everybody else does.

[General 6 Stars]

@Dauvio:

@GeneralHandGrenade:

I guess your word means nothing Vann. You promised to stay away. What is it going to take to make you stop harassing YG?

I hope you get banned this time for good.

This is not harassment like he said.  I am stating my opinion like everybody else does.

Doesn’t matter if you have an opinion. You are not allowed to post anything period towards anything YG posts.

[Dauvio Vann]

@SS:

@Dauvio:

@GeneralHandGrenade:

I guess your word means nothing Vann. You promised to stay away. What is it going to take to make you stop harassing YG?

I hope you get banned this time for good.

This is not harassment like he said.  I am stating my opinion like everybody else does.

Doesn�t matter if you have an opinion. You are not allowed to post anything period towards anything YG posts.

**I MADE COMMENTS ON HIS POST, AND HE CRIES HARASSMENT AND EVERYONE BELIEVES HIM.

THE TRUTH IS HE GOT HIS FEELINGS HURT, AND NOW HE IS CRYING WOLF.

HE HAS SOME GOOD A&A VIDEOS OUT THERE, BUT SOME OF THEM ARE PRETTY LAUGHABLE.

I DO SUPPORT HIS YOUTUBE CHANNEL BECAUSE OF HIS PASSION FOR THE GAME.**