• @CWO:

    too little information so far to draw any conclusions.Â

    If I’d thought of it at the time, I would have expressed it in TNG terms and said that we have “insufficient Data”.  :-D

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    @CWO:

    @CWO:

    too little information so far to draw any conclusions.�

    If I’d thought of it at the time, I would have expressed it in TNG terms and said that we have “insufficient Data”.   :-D

    We will never have enough of Data. Easily one of the top 5 best characters ever in Star Trek. Maybe top 3.


  • Kurtzman is as much to blame for the horrors of the most recent Trek feature films as that hack JJ. Unless I’m entirely wrong about where the awfulness originates I won’t be participating.

    I also won’t be participating because these executives also seem to misunderstand how many streaming services/cable services I am willing to subscribe too.

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    Haha, well put on both points frimmel. The new Trek movies were a team effort, which gives some hope for TFA since there are some screenwriters there who have an idea as to what they’re doing.

    Also not sure how many people will pay exclusively for this series.

    I strongly urge them to let Nicholas Meyer step in for a third time and write and direct the first four episodes, if he’s up for it. He’s revived Trek on two occasions, don’t see why he can’t do it a third time.


  • @General:

    I strongly urge them to let Nicholas Meyer step in for a third time and write and direct the first four episodes, if he’s up for it. He’s revived Trek on two occasions, don’t see why he can’t do it a third time.

    It depends on how much of the series concept has already been nailed down and is non-negotiable.  If Meyer were to be handed this job without being given any room to maneuver, he might not be able to salvage the show if the concept he’s given is a bad concept.  Assuming he even agreed to take the job under those kinds of restrictions.

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    A new hope. ;)

    Post Nemesis would be great, as suggested above. But anything is appreciated where Romulus is NOT destroyed in the future.

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    The Nick Meyer idea is great, but how old is that dude now? Is he even still in the business on a regular basis? I think he would be a great asset, if for nothing but the legacy he brings, however my question is more to whether it is even in the realm of remote possibility.

    For that matter, I wouldn’t mind seeing Jonathan Frakes get back into things. I don’t really know how much he produced and wrote, though he directed quite a bit.

    As for streaming services… I agree with Frimmel. I don’t subscribe to any streaming services (no internet at home) and don’t take issue with CBS making a new Star Trek show streaming-only. However, placing it on CBS proprietary streaming channel seems like hubris to me. It is annoying.

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    @alexgreat:

    A new hope. ;)

    Post Nemesis would be great, as suggested above. But anything is appreciated where Romulus is NOT destroyed in the future.

    Or Vulcan in the past. I am just floored by how easy that was for them to do. In the first freaking movie too. Shows a complete lack of respect/awareness of previous Star Trek.


  • @LHoffman:

    As for streaming services… I agree with Frimmel. I don’t subscribe to any streaming services (no internet at home) and don’t take issue with CBS making a new Star Trek show streaming-only. However, placing it on CBS proprietary streaming channel seems like hubris to me. It is annoying.

    It is like they WANT me to pirate it.


  • @LHoffman:

    As for streaming services… I agree with Frimmel. I don’t subscribe to any streaming services (no internet at home) and don’t take issue with CBS making a new Star Trek show streaming-only. However, placing it on CBS proprietary streaming channel seems like hubris to me. It is annoying.

    I imagine that in due course – and perhaps very soon – after the initial broadcast season, each season of the show will be released on DVD, since that seems to be a common practice nowadays.

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    @CWO:

    I imagine that in due course – and perhaps very soon – after the initial broadcast season, each season of the show will be released on DVD, since that seems to be a common practice nowadays.

    Yeah, that is how my wife and I watch things nowadays. If it is a show we really want to watch or already do, we will wait until we can rent or buy the physical item. Not always as cheap or convenient as streaming, but overall it may be when you consider how much you are paying per month for internet also. And I don’t mind the waiting. There is very little that I watch network tv for these days other than live sports.

  • '17 '16 '15 '12

    @LHoffman:

    @alexgreat:

    A new hope. ;)

    Post Nemesis would be great, as suggested above. But anything is appreciated where Romulus is NOT destroyed in the future.

    Or Vulcan in the past. I am just floored by how easy that was for them to do. In the first freaking movie too. Shows a complete lack of respect/awareness of previous Star Trek.

    agree, no sensitivity. just so…I was totally staggered. they would not have dared with Qo’noS.


  • Interesting article on the new series:

    http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/nov/03/star-trek-can-prosper-netflix-and-chill-era

    Star Trek Star Trek: can the franchise live long and prosper in the era of ‘Netflix and chill’?

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    @CWO:

    Interesting article on the new series:

    http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/nov/03/star-trek-can-prosper-netflix-and-chill-era

    Star Trek Star Trek: can the franchise live long and prosper in the era of ‘Netflix and chill’?

    This is a great article. Explains the situation perfectly.

    I agree with the writer’s train of thought: best indication of what Kurtzman is going to produce content-wise is what he has done in the past; be that Fringe, Alias or Sleepy Hollow. I have never seen Alias or Sleepy Hollow, but I watched most of Fringe. I thought Fringe was above average for a network TV show and had an interesting concept. Hard to determine how exactly such a thing would influence his new effort with Star Trek. I suppose it means he is well prepared for any Mirror Universe episodes???

    I hope he is wrong about fans not being able to take the 1990s Next Gen era Trek anymore. I think the foundation is excellent, even if the show itself is in many respects dated by now (why wouldn’t it be). It will be interesting to see if this plays out like the Disney-buying-Star Wars scenario. The property hasn’t changed hands, but the recent tone and subject matter has… in short, I would not be surprised if they ignore ALL of the established canon and original Trek up to this point. They have pretty much done just that already in the new films.

    No one in the studios or writing teams, it appears, cares much about continuity or established tradition. It is all about money, social media trending and making the next Game of Thrones/Breaking Bad level hit, as the writer implies. I cannot entirely fault them for trying to make the show popular and profitable, but I think a lot is going to be compromised in the process. Which is why I am not expecting much of anything good.

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  • @LHoffman:

    http://trekcore.com/blog/2015/11/new-report-says-star-trek-demand-from-other-streaming-services-drove-cbs-all-access-decision/

    The part of the article which says…

    “One of the most frequent comments we’ve seen are from those wondering why CBS didn’t just “put it on Netflix or Amazon!”, services to which many already subscribe. The answer, of course, should be no surprise; CBS wants to make their prized possession the cornerstone of their push into the streaming market on a service they control (and monetize) top-to-bottom.”

    …has a familiar ring to it.  When Paramount decided to launch its United Paramount Network service back around 1995, it did so by capitalizing on its valuable Star Trek properties – and more specifically by creating a new Star Trek series, Voyager, as UPN’s flagship program.  So in a sense we’re dealing with the same kind of infinite-loop-rerun-of-history that we’ve seen a lot on sci-fi shows like…well, um, the various Star Trek series.

  • '18 '17 '16 '15 Customizer

    @CWO:

    @LHoffman:

    http://trekcore.com/blog/2015/11/new-report-says-star-trek-demand-from-other-streaming-services-drove-cbs-all-access-decision/

    The part of the article which says…

    “One of the most frequent comments we’ve seen are from those wondering why CBS didn’t just “put it on Netflix or Amazon!”, services to which many already subscribe. The answer, of course, should be no surprise; CBS wants to make their prized possession the cornerstone of their push into the streaming market on a service they control (and monetize) top-to-bottom.”

    …has a familiar ring to it.  When Paramount decided to launch its United Paramount Network service back around 1995, it did so by capitalizing on its valuable Star Trek properties – and more specifically by creating a new Star Trek series, Voyager, as UPN’s flagship program.  So in a sense we’re dealing with the same kind of infinite-loop-rerun-of-history that we’ve seen a lot on sci-fi shows like…well, um, the various Star Trek series.

    Hahaha…. very good point Marc.

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    Remake Enterprise but make it any good.

    Have interesting alien contact stories instead of people with bits of plastic glued to their faces as avatars for non-American human societies.

    Do a series based on the parallel universe from Mirror, Mirror where the Federation is an Empire and we have to do it to the Aliens before they do it to us.


  • Id rather have the show be about stories where Aliens argue about what roundels to use and tell Capt. Kirk that his maps are inaccurate.

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    I don’t care how bad it is, it will be good to me because it’s Trek.  Anything Trek is good!  (Except maybe DS 9.  Wasn’t a HUGE fan of DS 9 until Worf moved over…even then, it felt weird like I was cheating on TNG with another show…)

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