Patron 2022 - Bronze

Here’s a Path to Victory map that’s been edited to show the maximum historical extent of Axis expansion – if the Axis ever controlled a territory at some point during the war, I gave it to them, and if the Allies ever failed to control a territory, I took it away from them. Thus, Iraq is Axis because there was a very brief pro-Axis coup; French Central Africa is neutral because it took a little while for the Free French to liberate it. Some territories are judgment calls – you could argue that the Germans took the territory represented by Vologda, near Leningrad, or that the Japanese never took the territory represented by Kweichow, but these are 1-IPC swings that would not greatly affect my conclusion.

The interesting thing about editing this map is that Axis and Allied income are essentially tied. The Axis are collecting 134 IPCs per turn before national objectives, and the Allies are collecting 135 IPCs per turn before NOs. Assuming everyone is at war, the Atlantic Wall is duly garrisoned, there are enough German subs in the water to annoy the British, but not enough to interrupt Russian Lend-Lease, then I count 26 IPCs in Axis national objectives, and 27 IPCs in Allied national objectives. In other words, at the maximum extent of Axis expansion, the Allies were up by a grand total of $2. If the Axis take, e.g., Southern Caucasus or Midway, then the Axis are instead up by about $5. If the Allies liberate British Somaliland or the Solomon Islands, then the Allies are up by about $5.

This is dramatic, but not especially historical – in real life, when the Axis were at their maximum expansion, the Allies were still out-producing them at least 2:1. It’s an interesting game design question whether it is more elegant to give the Axis a fighting chance by making the territories near their capitals worth more money (as Path to Victory seems to do), or by giving the Axis so many starting units that they are able to expand far beyond their historical borders (as, e.g., Anniversary Edition seems to do).

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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 1

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 mech_infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Politics - Italians
        Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese
            Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Chinese from Neutrality to War

    Combat Move - Italians
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
        2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Tunisia
        1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to British Somaliland
              Italians take British Somaliland from British
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Kenya
              Italians take Kenya from British

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in 97 Sea Zone
            Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
            British defend with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters
                Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 0.17

Savegame

Round: 12

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 2 artilleries and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        1 armour moved from Northern Caucasus to Kazakhstan
              Italians take Kazakhstan from Russians
        1 armour moved from Kazakhstan to Northern Caucasus

    Combat - Italians

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        1 mech_infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Ukraine
        2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
        4 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
        2 fighters moved from Greece to Ukraine
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Greece
        1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Romania
        1 artillery moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Yugoslavia
        1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia

    Place Units - Italians
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Southern Italy
        Italians undo move 1.
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Northern Italy
        Italians undo move 1.
        1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Southern Italy
        1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Northern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Italians collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 2 carriers, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 30 Sea Zone to Johnston Island
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to 30 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
        1 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
        1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to Western United States

    Place Units - Americans
        1 carrier placed in 101 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
        1 submarine placed in 101 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Western United States
        1 fighter placed in Eastern United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 50 PUs; end with 51 PUs
        Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 56 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 66 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        1 fighter and 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Kweichow

    Combat - Chinese
        Battle in Kweichow
            Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kweichow
            Chinese win, taking Kweichow from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Szechwan

    Place Units - Chinese
        4 infantry placed in Szechwan

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 6 PUs; end with 7 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 armour moved from Egypt to Alexandria
              British take Alexandria from Italians
        1 armour moved from Alexandria to Egypt
        1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
        1 fighter moved from Egypt to Belgian Congo
        1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo
        1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Tanganyika Territory
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Iraq to 80 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 72 Sea Zone to Kenya
        1 fighter moved from Egypt to Belgian Congo
        1 mech_infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Tanganyika Territory
        1 bomber moved from Gibraltar to 99 Sea Zone

    Combat - British
        Battle in 99 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 bomber
            Italians defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone
            British win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Italians: 1 transport
        Battle in Kenya
        Battle in Tanganyika Territory
            British attack with 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Italians defend with 1 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Tanganyika Territory, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Tanganyika Territory, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Tanganyika Territory
            British win, taking Kenya from Italians, taking Tanganyika Territory from Italians with 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            British attack with 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Italians defend with 1 artillery
                British roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Anglo Egyptian Sudan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 artillery in Anglo Egyptian Sudan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Italians lost in Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            British win, taking Anglo Egyptian Sudan from Italians with 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery
        Battle in Belgian Congo
            British attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Italians defend with 1 infantry
                British roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Belgian Congo, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belgian Congo, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Belgian Congo
            British win, taking Belgian Congo from Italians with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
        2 fighters moved from Belgian Congo to Egypt
        1 bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Egypt
        1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 80 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Persia to Szechwan
        1 fighter moved from Persia to India
        1 carrier and 2 cruisers moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Algeria to Gibraltar
        2 fighters moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco
        1 armour and 3 infantry moved from Brazil to 86 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 86 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
        1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar

    Place Units - British
        1 fighter placed in United Kingdom
        1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 106 Sea Zone
        1 infantry placed in Union of South Africa
        3 infantry placed in Egypt
        British undo move 2.
        1 submarine placed in 71 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer placed in 106 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 37 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,1,1,1,4,2,1
        UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 6 PUs
        Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 9 PUs
        Some Units in India change ownership: 1 artillery and 3 infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0,33
Italians regular : -1,00
Japanese regular : -0,67
British regular : -0,17

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Round: 10

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 10 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 infantry moved from India to West India
              Japanese take West India from UK_Pacific
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
        2 bombers moved from French Indo China to Szechwan
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Chahar
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Hunan to Chahar
        2 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Jehol to Chahar

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Caroline Islands
        Battle in Szechwan
            Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,67 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Szechwan
                Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 mech_infantry in Szechwan, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Szechwan
            Japanese win, taking Caroline Islands from ANZAC, taking Szechwan from Chinese with 2 bombers and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
        Battle in Chahar
            Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Chahar, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Chahar
            Japanese win, taking Chahar from Chinese with 1 armour, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Jehol to Manchuria
        3 fighters moved from Philippines to 33 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to 33 Sea Zone
        3 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Jehol to Japan
        13 artilleries and 16 infantry moved from India to West India
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Malaya to Yunnan
        1 infantry moved from Hunan to Anhwe
        1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Hunan
        1 battleship, 4 carriers, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 5 carriers, 2 cruisers, 5 destroyers, 2 fighters, 3 submarines and 5 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Persia to Iraq
        1 fighter moved from Persia to India
        2 bombers moved from Szechwan to French Indo China
        1 marine moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
        1 marine and 6 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Chahar to Manchuria
        1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to Anhwe

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 destroyer and 2 submarines placed in 36 Sea Zone
        2 fighters, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Japan
        3 infantry placed in Manchuria
        3 infantry placed in Malaya

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 62 PUs; end with 62 PUs
        Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs
        Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 0,67
Japanese regular : 0,33

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@naviator No problem

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Not today. Cheers.

@gamerman01 Ok, understand. Take your time.