XDAP-2: Onward! Defrosted Tuna Team vs Death by Dice

[Noll]

I wouldn’t be complaining about dice if it was an isolated case.

Remember you gained an 80 TUV change out of pure luck.

While GHR2 had luck in a battle against Germany, it was a 90% battle where he got less casualities than what he should have.

As USA, I lost 4fighters, 1tac.bombers and 3bombers, they hitted 3times round1, 0times round2, and you killed everything, and lost 1dd 1tac.bmb. That’s gamebreaking.
Then a single DD kills a bombers, and don’t even get killed by it (-12).

Then you attack 2dd 1cr (2@2 1@3 - 3hits) with 1fig 1bmb (1@3 1@4 - 2hits), with a winning chance of 11.5%, you also had the guts to say that the french fleet rolled above average while you sunk it? Huh…

http://www.dskelly.com/misc/aa/aasim.html?&rules=1940&battleType=sea&attFighter=1&attBomber=1&defDestroyer=2&defCruiser=1

At least, due to sheer luck you’re getting, you could either admit or ignore it, but writing bullshits statements like the last one you did, is not going to make this game enjoyable for us, like it already wasn’t. The effect is that this will be a very slow game and I’ll take my time for playing each turn.

[666]

No question my friend, Japan has been extremely lucky!!

[666]

@JWW:

No question my friend, Japan has been extremely lucky!!

can i request that you continue helping Japan out?

[666]

i’ve played soooo many games. sometimes “dice” really suck.

[Canuck12]

@Noll:

Then you attack 2dd 1cr (2@2 1@3 - 3hits) with 1fig 1bmb (1@3 1@4 - 2hits), with a winning chance of 11.5%, you also had the guts to say that the french fleet rolled above average while you sunk it? Huh…

Perhaps you would be less upset Noll if you learned to use your own dice calculator.

The aforementioned battle is 11.5% chance of a DRAW. with a 22.7% chance of a WIN.

Which means 1 out of 3 times Italy destroys All of the French fleet and almost 1 in 4 times they have a bomber OR MORE left over. It’s not that bad.

No one can change the dice. They will go back and fourth all game. We have been lucky on some key battles, unlucky on others, that’s the way the game is played: Welcome to Axis and Allies.

[Noll]

we had a DRAW. 11%

[Most Holy]

11% means it is possible. I get diced all the time. I’m playing Italy FFS! I’m NEVER going to be rolling big handfuls of dice, thus I’m always going to be fighting low odds fights where dice will be crucial. When Germany comes into Moscow and there are 100+ dice involved then you can look at the odds of winning and say go or no go? Dice fucked or not dice fucked. 2-3 dice per side and you’re looking at odds? If I waited for good odds as Italy I’d be waiting for the invasion of Rome and buying infantry the whole game. I can’t get my shit in gear until the waters are clear. And the odds would be a shit ton worse if I waited for the Uk to get more navy in there now wouldn’t I? My small dice will bite me in the ass in time don’t worry.

[Noll]

Most Holy, you are a good guy. As I said, the dice might be the cause, but I’m not complaining because of them. An opponent getting so lucky could avoid stating bullshits, and I’m talking Canuck, not you nor your other ally.

As I am playing this torunament to enjoy the game, and I get senteces like “Perhaps you would be less upset Noll if you learned to use your own dice calculator.”

Or: "the French still scored a better average roll. "

Or check the first pages of this game.

[Canuck12]

Well if I’m the only one who’s a dick that’s fine by me. I’m done talking about it.

Lets just play and have some fun.

[ghr2]

Can’t we all just kiss and make-up?

[Canuck12]

I don’t think there will be too much bad blood. I will do my best to stay constructive from now on. Let’s just get on with this.

[666]

WHO IS UP??

[Canuck12]

ANZAC and France.

[Canuck12]

Noll?

[Degrasse]

Play faster, GenericUserName and I are bored.  :)

[Canuck12]

Talk to Noll.

I’m ready to go but he has said that he is going to take a really long time to play his turns because he’s not having fun any more.

[Noll]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3 Final, version: 3.3

Game History

Round :3

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 carrier and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 cruiser moved from 62 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from New South Wales to 55 Sea Zone

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in 55 Sea Zone
                ANZAC attack with 1 cruiser and 1 fighter
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                ANZAC win with 1 cruiser remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 fighter

Non Combat Move - ANZAC

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 carrier placed in 62 Sea Zone
            1 infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs total

[Noll]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3 Final, version: 3.3

Game History

Round :3

Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Anglo Egyptian Sudan

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

[Canuck12]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3 Final, version: 3.3

Game History

Round :4

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 fighter, 7 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            4 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
                  Germans take Baltic States from Russians
            2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            3 armour, 2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
            2 armour moved from Romania to Ukraine
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Novgorod
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Western Ukraine

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Novgorod
                Germans attack with 2 bombers and 5 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 5 infantry in Novgorod, round 1 :  3/7 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Novgorod, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Russians , 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
                Germans win, taking Novgorod from Russians with 2 bombers and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 artillery
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Western Ukraine, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine
                Germans win, taking Western Ukraine from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery
            Battle in Ukraine
                Germans attack with 5 armour, 2 artilleries and 8 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 2 artilleries and 8 infantry in Ukraine, round 1 :  3/15 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine
                Germans win, taking Ukraine from Russians with 5 armour, 2 artilleries and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports moved from 112 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            6 infantry moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 6 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
            6 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Baltic States
            1 aaGun, 1 armour, 6 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
            1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Romania
            1 bomber moved from Western Ukraine to Yugoslavia
            1 bomber moved from Novgorod to Germany
            1 bomber moved from Novgorod to Romania
            3 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 artillery moved from Germany to Poland
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
            2 submarines moved from 93 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            2 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Bessarabia

Place Units - Germans
            3 artilleries and 7 infantry placed in Germany
            1 armour, 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 51 PUs; end with 52 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 51 / 62
    Russians : 32 / 47
    Japanese : 58 / 66
    Americans : 52 / 77
    Chinese : 6 / 7
    British : 29 / 34
    UK_Pacific : 6 / 6
    Italians : 16 / 24
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 5 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[questioneer]

Wow reading this, I think someone needs to call the Waaahh-bulance :-D :-D :-D