@MillCreek

Regarding the probabilities and “expected values” of the dice. I have also thought a lot about this. And how it doesn’t exactly tell the whole story.

For example: if you attacked France with 15 guys against my 1. And you had 5 expected hits and got 1 and I had 0.33 expected hits and got 1, that would be recorded as a 4.33 swing in my favour when really, it had no effect on the outcome and you would easily take the territory.

By contrast when you attacked Moscow: being 10 hits under on the first round and me being slightly over basically sunk you. And even if you were 2 points over and I was par for the next 4 rounds. It still would have ended badly for you but the stats would have said it was roughly even.

It would be cool to trace the stats back to the start of the game. I recall taking an undeserved bruising while knocking out the Japanese fleet and I know once you got smacked by the British dice in Baltic states.

Great game overall. I would be game for a re-match if you’re ever interested. I would like to prove I can beat you without a bunch of dice help. I’ve never tried low-luck, but it might be the way to go if we both have something to prove.

@MillCreek

This is true. I have been in that situation many times. It can drive you nuts.

I’ve been trying to explain to myself why I feel like the dice decide so many games (despite what I know about statistics). What I’ve discovered is that in a really good game, where players are well matched it’s often the dice that make the difference, only because without dice-you could see-saw back and forth with each one unable to consistently gain the upper hand.

It goes to show you how tight this one was.

@MillCreek

Wow! Holy shit!

I didn’t even see the first post! Haha!

Wow. Yeah, that’s a dicing for sure! I feel bad. I think you had about 82% odds on that battle - but it was extremely swingy. What a heartbreaker!

It just goes to show you what a close game it was all the way through. Basically it came down to one final battle for Moscow - winner take all.

Hell of a game, man!

Honestly, this is the version I play most often and you taught me a thing or two about overall strategy. Kudos!

It’s neat to see how easily it could have gone the other way. I think we can both be proud of a game well played and also take away some lessons for next time. - I know I will.

So do you want me to finish out the British and American turn? Play this out to the required victory cities or is that an official concession?

@MillCreek

Imagine if we had diced that out face to face. That would have been so intense!

@MillCreek

Holy shit that was close!

Well done, sir!

I was hoping to sneak out of that one and live for 1 more round… I’ll have to take a look at the map and see where we go from here.

Incredible!

That guy in Burma killed 1 British infantry, 1 British tank, 1 American infantry and the bomber even capped my artillery!

Wasted 4 units to take that 1 stupid territory and I still didn’t even get it!

Maddening!

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 2 artilleries and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 armour moved from Russia to Archangel
              Russians take Archangel from Germans
        1 armour moved from Archangel to Russia
        1 armour moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Russia
        1 infantry moved from Russia to Caucasus
              Russians take Caucasus from Germans

    Combat - Russians

    Non Combat Move - Russians

    Place Units - Russians
        2 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 18 PUs; end with 18 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 infantry moved from French West Africa to French Equatorial Africa
              British take French Equatorial Africa from Germans
        1 armour moved from French West Africa to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
              British take Anglo-Egyptian Sudan from Germans
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Philippine Islands to 48 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 48 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Burma
        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Caucasus
        1 bomber moved from Russia to Caucasus
        2 fighters moved from 48 Sea Zone to Burma
        2 cruisers moved from 61 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 48 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in Burma
            Americans attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Burma, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese, 1 bomber owned by the Japanese, 1 infantry owned by the Americans and 1 artillery owned by the Americans lost in Burma
            Americans win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 bomber and 1 infantry
        Battle in Caucasus
            Americans attack with 2 bombers
            Germans defend with 1 factory and 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 2 bombers in Caucasus, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 bombers in Caucasus, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus
            Americans win with 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        2 bombers moved from Caucasus to Russia
        2 fighters moved from 61 Sea Zone to Russia
        2 fighters moved from Burma to 61 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 48 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 48 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 48 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 61 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        2 transports moved from 11 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Eastern Canada

    Place Units - Americans
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in Eastern United States
        2 transports placed in 11 Sea Zone
        3 infantry placed in Western United States
        1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Borneo

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 49 PUs; end with 49 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : -0.67
Americans : 0.17
Japanese : 1.50

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Well, this is an interesting one. Great game so far!

TripleA Turn Summary: British round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 2 fighters and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 8 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 8 Sea Zone to France
              British take France from Germans

    Combat - British

    Non Combat Move - British
        2 destroyers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to Russia

    Place Units - British
        2 fighters placed in 6 Sea Zone
        1 infantry placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 28 PUs; end with 29 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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