2015 League General Discussion Thread

[lexgreat]

one thing is certain: I also ask myself the same question, on a lower level. There must be something compelling.

[lexgreat]

PS: Didnt mean judgement calls, just him being 9th by PPG!

[gamerman01]

@alexgreat:

PS: Didnt mean judgement calls, just him being 9th by PPG!

Thanks, just didn’t want anyone getting the wrong idea!  I just moderate and compile, I don’t play kingmaker!

[axis-dominion]

@alexgreat:

although I admit Axis wont take it lightly if someone will relegate him to 9th. in the end ;)

ah, haha it’s ok, really, i’ll still be a&a friends with that certain someone!

while i’ll admit (again) that i had sorta made it a personal goal to achieve the highest tier this season, and wasn’t happy about the shakeout event, really i am ok with it. i had gotten over it shortly after it happened and after we all agreed it needs to be fixed. all is good  :-)

as far as the playoffs, i honestly didn’t have it as one of my targets, at least not until gamer got me all fired up and had me feeling like i need to prove myself haha but i’m also ok with not making it. again all is good (although i must say the idea of sneaking in just to knock out Juan is quite appealing!)

[axis-dominion]

if allies attack iraq and it fails, can axis now land planes there during ncm?

[gamerman01]

@axis-dominion:

if allies attack iraq and it fails, can axis now land planes there during ncm?

That’s right.  It works this way with all neutrals.  When they’re attacked, they join the other side, so are friendly territories to the other side

[axis-dominion]

@Gamerman01:

@axis-dominion:

if allies attack iraq and it fails, can axis now land planes there during ncm?

That’s right.  It works this way with all neutrals.  When they’re attacked, they join the other side, so are friendly territories to the other side

ok good to know! thank you

[gamerman01]

Yeah, feel free to land UK aircraft on Yugoslavia after a G1 hit and run  :-D

[Seador]

as the 2015 season is winding down, will games carry over to 2016 or any 2015 leftovers just effectively vanish?

[gamerman01]

All games always carry over - no league games are ever lost
Soon I will be taking signups for post-season playoffs

[gamerman01]

All playoff games will also count for 2016

[lexgreat]

For the 9-16 ranked playoffs you dont need 8 games necessarily, right?

[Witt]

I think Gamerman has said 4. Is only 8 for the top tier.

[gamerman01]

Under rule 3c of the PUBLIC league playoff rules……  :-)

“Any players who have completed 4 or more games, and who did not qualify for the League Champion Playoff may sign up to enter the additional league playoffs. These playoffs will also start with 8 players each, and will be seeded by PPG (with byes or play-in games as necessary)”

[MakeMaps]

@Gamerman01:

Under rule 3c of the PUBLIC league playoff rules……  :-)

“Any players who have completed 4 or more games, and who did not qualify for the League Champion Playoff may sign up to enter the additional league playoffs. These playoffs will also start with 8 players each, and will be seeded by PPG (with byes or play-in games as necessary)”

So only eight people can only enter the playoffs that are for people other than the League Champion Playoffs?
Or people play eight players and then one out of the eight people advances to next round?

[gamerman01]

No, no, there are multiple additional playoffs as necessary, as dictated by the number of signups.  Each one is independent.  On the Ranking spreadsheet, look for another sheet/tab for the 2014 playoffs where you can see.  We had 3 total playoffs last year.  bmnielsen and soulblighter each won their 8-man playoffs.

[Zhukov44]

@MakeMaps:

@Gamerman01:

Under rule 3c of the PUBLIC league playoff rules……  :-)

“Any players who have completed 4 or more games, and who did not qualify for the League Champion Playoff may sign up to enter the additional league playoffs. These playoffs will also start with 8 players each, and will be seeded by PPG (with byes or play-in games as necessary)”

So only eight people can only enter the playoffs that are for people other than the League Champion Playoffs?
Or people play eight players and then one out of the eight people advances to next round?

At this point, there are more elite players participating in the league than ever before.  So now it seems possible that the best player in the league could fail to make it into the Top 8.  Maybe we should switch to a 16-person tournament for the league championships (next year, if not this year).  We’d just have to make it clear ahead of time that the league championship playoff is potentially a 4-6 month commitment (given that it would go 4 rounds).

[gamerman01]

Uh, thanks to the two of us, the championship game is still being played, 1 year later.  If you can’t crack the top 8, I don’t think you deserve a shot at the title, no

Chain is only as strong as its weakest link, and with 8 matches in the first round instead of 4, that would slow it way down.  If it took as a year this time, adding another 8 would probably add at LEAST 6 months.

Thanks for the input

[DizzKneeLand33]

@Gamerman01:

Uh, thanks to the two of us, the championship game is still being played, 1 year later.  If you can’t crack the top 8, I don’t think you deserve a shot at the title, no

Chain is only as strong as its weakest link, and with 8 matches in the first round instead of 4, that would slow it way down.  If it took as a year this time, adding another 8 would probably add at LEAST 6 months.

Thanks for the input

Well, it would only be one added game.  Then again, I just noticed that one of the semifinals took 7½ months to play 15 rounds.  That averages to one round every two weeks.  So I guess your assessment would be correct.  ;)

I like the idea of the top 25% being able to qualify, maybe even more.  Too bad we can’t go with that idea of 4 flights of 4 people playing each other (3 games total), followed by a final flight of 4.  That would only be two rounds deep, so it would actually be quicker than the 3 played now, and also more thorough.  A single elimination knockout for a dice game is a bit much.  Even chess tournaments are rarely done that way….  :wink:

Then again, that part doesn’t affect my life.  But it would lead to less in-season manipulations to get to the final eight by a few choice players…

[gamerman01]

Please explain flight of 4.  I could probably figure it out, but you could just tell me

I already admitted that Zhukov and my game was long, due to both of us.  I was in my busy season at work.  As you mentioned, they’re single elimination games.  Heavyweights playing each other.  I don’t expect these games to be as fast as regular season or casual games.

College football has a lot of luck in it, too.  Out of over 120 teams, 4 make it to the playoff for the national championship.  I estimate that only about 10% of games are lost because of luck and 10% won because of luck, in all my experience.  It’s not like the previous versions.  Skill and tactics and strategy matters more in G40 than in any previous A&A.

Everyone with 4+ games can have a taste of exciting single elimination post-season playoff action.
The bigger the bracket, the bigger mismatches you have.  #1 against #16 instead of #1 against #8.  See NCAA basketball tourney of 64 teams.  Blowouts all over the place and #1 like never loses to #16 (there are 4 number 1’s and 4 number 16’s)

I still like 8 for our championship.  Almost all of the 8 are legitimate title contenders.  I wouldn’t say the same for top 16.

Dizz points out the luck in the game.  This is one of my reasons why it should only be top 8.  Less chance of a lesser player getting lucky and knocking off a top player.

JuanSpain would need lottery-jackpot luck to win the championship.  I’ve played him twice about a year ago, so I think I know.
Needing 3 games to win and 8 games to get in pretty much ensures a worthy champion.

More games and more playoff action is always attractive, I agree.  My solution is to multiple playoffs and allow basically everyone who wants to, to participate.