2013 - AAG 40 League

[boldfresh]

@arathorn:

@Karl7:

Are we ever going to have a 2013 tournament?

I would sure hope so.

I am in favour of a 2v2 tournament, with 24h posting time limits.

I’m throwing in $50 if someone is interested. Anyone else?

Im in for 50

[arathorn]

@Boldfresh:

@arathorn:

@Karl7:

Are we ever going to have a 2013 tournament?

I would sure hope so.

I am in favour of a 2v2 tournament, with 24h posting time limits.

I’m throwing in $50 if someone is interested. Anyone else?

Im in for 50

With Karl, Bold and myself already in for $50, we’re at $150…

Clearly this should create some interest!

[seth4god]

I can throw in a cool thousand . . .  monopoly dollars, maybe even 1500!

I don’t have spare cash laying around, but I’d play in the tourney.  :-D

[boldfresh]

each should give as they are able.  no one can tell me they don’t have a few extra bucks laying around.  :wink:

[gamerman01]

When money is involved, you need a good, impartial moderator with a lot of A&A experience.

I offer my services, with no charge.

[gamerman01]

Or, if you can find another well qualified, trusted moderator then I would be interested in playing in it instead.

[arathorn]

@Gamerman01:

Or, if you can find another well qualified, trusted moderator then I would be interested in playing in it instead.

I would actually prefer if you got to play Gamerman, but thank you for offering your expert services.

[seth4god]

@arathorn:

@Gamerman01:

Or, if you can find another well qualified, trusted moderator then I would be interested in playing in it instead.

I would actually prefer if you got to play Gamerman, but thank you for offering your expert services.

Jenn could moderate  :evil:

[Jennifer]

@seththenewb:

@arathorn:

@Gamerman01:

Or, if you can find another well qualified, trusted moderator then I would be interested in playing in it instead.

I would actually prefer if you got to play Gamerman, but thank you for offering your expert services.

Jenn could moderate  :evil:

Hey now, I am NOT evil, I am just misunderstood!  I think I just need a hug, you know, to stop my homicidal tendancies!

2v2 tournaments are fine, the only problem is that we invariably end up with a few teams where one guy starts to not show up.

[Degrasse]

I’m interested in another G40 tournament. I really had a lot of fun in Gargantua’s XDAP tournament and met new people.

[Karl7]

@Cmdr:

@seththenewb:

@arathorn:

@Gamerman01:

Or, if you can find another well qualified, trusted moderator then I would be interested in playing in it instead.

I would actually prefer if you got to play Gamerman, but thank you for offering your expert services.

Jenn could moderate�  :evil:

Hey now, I am NOT evil, I am just misunderstood!  I think I just need a hug, you know, to stop my homicidal tendancies!

2v2 tournaments are fine, the only problem is that we invariably end up with a few teams where one guy starts to not show up.

Solution:  24 hour move limitation. That would knock out the dawdlers

[boldfresh]

i’m all for 24 hrs.  maybe 48 hr total for the USA/CH/UK trio.

[Jennifer]

Allied split would probably have to be:
Player 1: Russia, ANZAC, France
Player 2: USA, China, England/India

Axis of course being:
Player 1: Germany/Italy
Player 2: Japan

Just looking at the turn order, that is.  I’m not super pleased with the whole turn order and still ponder the wisdom of moving ANZAC to after Italy since there are no significant ANZAC forces that start on the Europe board.  Of course, maybe I am not familiar with some super ANZAC strategy where ANZAC ends up with Berlin and Rome?  :roll:

[gamerman01]

@Cmdr:

I’m not super pleased with the whole turn order and still ponder the wisdom of moving ANZAC to after Italy since there are no significant ANZAC forces that start on the Europe board.

Amen to that, Jenn.

Of course, maybe I am not familiar with some super ANZAC strategy where ANZAC ends up with Berlin and Rome?   :roll:

The most significant thing about ANZ going after Italy is that ANZ can take a shot on Italy before Germany goes.  If ANZ/France don’t go between Italy and Germany then it makes the Italian can openers more vicious because the Allies have no chance to close it up in between, or at least with aircraft to air strike the can opening ground units so that they can’t pull their dastardly deed ever again.

But <cough>many of the decisions <cough>made throughout the DEVELOPMENT process of G40 from OOB to 2nd edition, through all the Alphas, seemed…… (so many words to choose from here) … questionable.

Including turn order.
We’re stuck with it, for better or for worse.</cough></cough>

[Jennifer]

I’d say the French have infinitely more opportunities to adjust can opener strategies by the Italia-Germans than ANZAC who has 2 infantry on that whole side of the board.  At least France starts with a destroyer, couple of cruisers, a half dozen or more infantry and a fighter (a lot more if you count what is in France itself, I wasn’t since the odds of Paris not being attacked by Germany is akin to 1/n as n increases towards infinity.)

Other changes do make sense to me, like the AA Gun rules.  I like that you can scale your defense and that they are built in on complexes since it frees up guns for the front lines, etc.  Also that they can be casualties is nice since it stopped the whole Sea Lion debate, which was hotly contested back in the day complete with could it even be stopped and should you stop it even if it could be stopped, and was it worth it for Germany to do it, etc, etc, etc, etc…(sorry, I hate uber strategies.  I want to choose to go Kill America first or kill England first, or maybe send 10 loaded transports down to Australia for kill Australia first, who cares if it is optimal, I WANNA DO IT!)

[boldfresh]

jenn i love your stream of consciousness posts - you and COWard should write a playbook together, it would be MANDATORY READING  (in the “comedy” genre that is).  :-P

[Jennifer]

I refuse to co-author a book!

Besides, if your opponent is asleep at the wheel, you could really technically go kill anything first, as long as it’s not allied with your nation.  right?

[gamerman01]

Jenn, don’t look now, but your inexperience with G40 is showing.

ANZ can (and has) quite easily take control of Persia, Iraq, and/or Saudi Arabia (I have taken all 3 with ANZ in a single game v. PGMatt), all of which support IC’s and are on the ocean so can build transports.

So ANZ going between Italy and Germany is quite significant.  Also, it doesn’t take ground units to be very significant.  As I tried to explain, ANZ can quite possibly air strike Italian tanks and mech, and that often is enough to stop the can opening right there.

Of course, I understand you were on the WRONG END of a nasty can opener recently, so again, I think you are commenting an awful lot for having so little experience.

Few of us are thinking in terms of what it was like before the AA change, because we have played so many games since then.  And by the way, the AA change is highly unpopular with many.

[gamerman01]

An ANZAC bomber can get to the European theater in just a couple of turns

Being able to hit Italian ships (like a destroyer blocker in 92) with ANZAC can be a deadly can opener for the ALLIES by allowing the USA to stream into the Med when this would be impossible without ANZAC going after Italy.

[arathorn]

@Gamerman01:

Jenn, don’t look now, but your inexperience with G40 is showing.

ANZ can (and has) quite easily take control of Persia, Iraq, and/or Saudi Arabia (I have taken all 3 with ANZ in a single game v. PGMatt), all of which support IC’s and are on the ocean so can build transports.

So ANZ going between Italy and Germany is quite significant.� Also, it doesn’t take ground units to be very significant.� As I tried to explain, ANZ can quite possibly air strike Italian tanks and mech, and that often is enough to stop the can opening right there.

Of course, I understand you were on the WRONG END of a nasty can opener recently, so again, I think you are commenting an awful lot for having so little experience.

Few of us are thinking in terms of what it was like before the AA change, because we have played so many games since then.� And by the way, the AA change is highly unpopular with many.

Not only can the middle east be taken by ANZAC, but with a either a bid of a trannie to NZ, or by moving one there R1, Brazil can be taken with ANZAC in one move. I have seen quite the frustrating game with Anzac with IC in Brazil. If Anzac gets bit of money from the islands if Japan is under pressure, Anzac can come in as a can opener in Europe via Brazil as well.