15L G40 wheatbeer (Axis) vs axisdominion (Allies +18)

[JDOW]

Wow, 26 rounds, crazy! Who is winning?

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 26

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy nothing; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            3 fighters and 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Northern Italy
                Italians attack with 3 fighters and 1 infantry
                British defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 mech_infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 3 fighters and 1 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the British lost in Northern Italy
                Italians win, taking Northern Italy from British with 3 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            3 fighters moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,1,5,1,5,6,2,6
            Italians collect 6 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 8 PUs total

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 71 / 93
    Russians : 5 / 0
    Japanese : 60 / 79
    Americans : 80 / 73
    Chinese : 23 / 25
    British : 24 / 28
    UK_Pacific : 3 / 0
    Italians : 10 / 8
    ANZAC : 0 / 0
    French : 7 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 0 / 0

[wheatbeer]

@JDOW:

Wow, 26 rounds, crazy! Who is winning?

If you exclude China (who the Axis have left alone for most of the game), then the Axis have a ~70 IPC economic advantage and a ~600 IPC TUV advantage.

I am too lazy to project it out, but I am guessing that if the Germans can’t capture Egypt in round 28, then the Japanese followup attack will probably be sufficient.

[axis-dominion]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 26

Combat Move - French
            2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 27

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans repair damage of 3x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 90 PUs;
            Germans buy 3 armour and 6 bombers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 artillery moved from Novosibirsk to Timguska
                  Germans take Timguska from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Vologda to Urals
                  Germans take Urals from Americans
            1 infantry moved from Iraq to Trans-Jordan
                  Germans take Trans-Jordan from British
            1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from France to Southern France
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Italy to Southern France
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Italy to Southern France
            1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Turkey
            1 artillery moved from Kazakhstan to Turkmenistan
                  Germans take Turkmenistan from Russians
            1 armour moved from Iraq to Syria
                  Germans take Syria from French
            1 armour moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Turkey
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Turkey

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                Americans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 :  1/5 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Americans with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Turkey
                Germans attack with 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys
                British defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys in Turkey, round 2 :  0/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Turkey, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys in Turkey, round 3 :  1/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Turkey, round 3 :  1/1 hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Turkey
                Germans win, taking Turkey from British with 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Southern France
                Germans attack with 1 artillery, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers
                Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers in Southern France, round 2 :  5/10 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Southern France
                Germans win, taking Southern France from Americans with 1 artillery, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            16 infantry moved from Iraq to Trans-Jordan
            26 artilleries moved from Iraq to Trans-Jordan
            1 fighter moved from Turkey to Iraq
            18 armour and 33 mech_infantrys moved from Iraq to Trans-Jordan
            3 armour and 6 mech_infantrys moved from Northwest Persia to Trans-Jordan
            4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Southern France to Southern Italy
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern Italy
            1 mech_infantry moved from Greece to Iraq
            1 infantry moved from Vologda to Novosibirsk
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Vologda to Samara
            3 infantry moved from Russia to Samara
            1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Samara
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Samara
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Bryansk
            1 fighter moved from Vologda to Samara
            2 fighters moved from Germany to Southern Italy
            8 mech_infantrys moved from France to Southern Italy
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to France
            5 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany
            7 artilleries moved from Western Germany to France
            13 infantry moved from Western Germany to France
            6 infantry moved from Western Germany to France

Place Units - Germans
            3 armour placed in Iraq
            3 bombers placed in France
            3 bombers placed in Western Germany
            Germans undo move 3.
            3 bombers placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Germans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 13
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 125 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,4,5,5
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 80 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,5
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,5,1,5
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,5,4,2,3,4,1,5
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 98 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,3,5,6,5,3,6,6,3,2,3,1,1,1,6,3,3,5,5,1,5,3,4,3,3,6,3,1,1,5,4,3,5,2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 105 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,1,1,4,5,2
            Germans collect 69 PUs (13 lost to blockades); end with 69 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs
            Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 4 PUs; end with 78 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 93 PUs
            Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 98 PUs

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 82 / 98
    Russians : 4 / 0
    Japanese : 60 / 79
    Americans : 74 / 73
    Chinese : 23 / 25
    British : 21 / 28
    UK_Pacific : 3 / 0
    Italians : 10 / 8
    ANZAC : 0 / 0
    French : 6 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 0 / 0

[axis-dominion]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 27

Research Technology - Japanese

[axis-dominion]

obviously this game is over, but i really wanna see this last big battle go down…ARMAGEDDON

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 27

Research Technology - Japanese

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese repair damage of 5x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 74 PUs;
            Japanese buy 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 2 fighters, 1 harbour, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Colombia to Venezuela
                  Japanese take Venezuela from Americans
            1 infantry moved from Colombia to Central America
            1 infantry moved from Ecuador to Peru
                  Japanese take Peru from ANZAC
            1 infantry moved from Argentina to Brazil
                  Japanese take Brazil from Americans
            1 artillery moved from Argentina to Paraguay
                  Japanese take Paraguay from ANZAC
            1 infantry moved from Chile to Bolivia
                  Japanese take Bolivia from ANZAC
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 64 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 64 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 64 Sea Zone to Central America
            3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 64 Sea Zone to Central America
            1 destroyer moved from 64 Sea Zone to 66 Sea Zone
            6 submarines moved from 64 Sea Zone to 66 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Persia to Saudi Arabia
            2 bombers moved from Iraq to Saudi Arabia
            1 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                  Japanese take Anglo Egyptian Sudan from British

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Central America
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
                Americans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Central America, round 2 :  6/9 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Central America, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Americans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Central America
                Japanese win, taking Central America from Americans with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Saudi Arabia
                Japanese attack with 1 armour, 2 bombers and 1 mech_infantry
                Americans defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 2 bombers and 1 mech_infantry in Saudi Arabia, round 2 :  3/4 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Saudi Arabia, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Saudi Arabia
                Japanese win, taking Saudi Arabia from Americans with 1 armour, 2 bombers and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Battle in 66 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 destroyer and 6 submarines
                Americans defend with 1 submarine
                    Japanese roll dice for 6 submarines in 66 Sea Zone, round 2 :  2/6 hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 66 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 destroyer and 6 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 destroyer moved from 63 Sea Zone to 85 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Argentina to Chile
            22 artilleries and 28 infantry moved from Iraq to Trans-Jordan
            2 bombers moved from Saudi Arabia to Trans-Jordan
            2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to Trans-Jordan
            3 armour moved from Eastern Persia to Iraq
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
            1 aaGun, 8 armour, 11 artilleries, 12 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 54 Sea Zone to 66 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from 66 Sea Zone to Chile
            2 artilleries, 2 battleships, 11 carriers, 1 cruiser, 6 destroyers, 12 fighters, 3 infantry and 6 transports moved from 64 Sea Zone to 66 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from 66 Sea Zone to Chile
            2 submarines moved from 6 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Central America to 66 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Vologda to Samara
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Russia

Place Units - Japanese
            1 factory_minor and 1 harbour placed in Chile
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Persia
            3 infantry placed in India
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Queensland

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 12
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 39 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,5
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 80 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 70 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,5
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 89 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,2,1,4,5,1,5,4,1,1,4,3,6,1,6,5,4,3,3,2,2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,1
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 71 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,2
            Japanese collect 56 PUs (12 lost to blockades); end with 56 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 2 Strategic Defense Perimeter: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs
            Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 76 PUs
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUs

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 82 / 98
    Russians : 4 / 0
    Japanese : 68 / 81
    Americans : 67 / 73
    Chinese : 23 / 25
    British : 20 / 28
    UK_Pacific : 3 / 0
    Italians : 10 / 8
    ANZAC : 0 / 0
    French : 6 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 0 / 0

[wheatbeer]

@axis-dominion:

obviously this game is over, but i really wanna see this last big battle go down…ARMAGEDDON

Well, it gives me an excuse to conquer South America with Japan  :lol:

[axis-dominion]

nevermind armageddon, i have so many other games going on i really don’t have the time to concentrate on a lost war. so i hereby resign. congrats, very well played game! it was a long, epic, fun one, and that’s what ultimately matters.

live by the LL re-roll, die by the LL re-roll…

had there been no re-roll, that failure to take NSW would’ve made this quite a different game.

but even after that, i felt i was doing quite well after i retook russia and had some good momentum, but then i made a strategic blunder with my mass russian movements (went too far south out of concern with the japanese approach), and you immediately took advantage and swung around a sizable armored detachment toward moscow. hence it fell again.

i’m also wondering if it was a strategic mistake to trade greece and turkey for the retaking of moscow…i had such a powerful grip all over the med and control of the turkish straits…what do you think??

i will post now. hopefully when you reach the required number of games, we can play another league game this season. otherwise, we’ll just have to wait till the next season.

[wheatbeer]

Thanks, I dunno how fast I’ll make the required number of games for a best of 5, but I’ll give you a rematch when that happens.

I think retaking Moscow was the right call … but if you ever have the free time and inclination, we could play a test game from before then for a few rounds and see how it shapes up.

I don’t know for certain what would have happened if the second Moscow fall had been delayed/avoided, but I would guess that Japan would still have grown increasingly powerful and kept the economic balance (excluding China) in favor of the Axis. Such a game might have lasted much much longer though  :lol:

Aside from the points you mention, I think the Soviet Far East army might have made a bigger impact on the game if they had returned to Europe after China was safely liberated. I can both sides of the argument here, but my guts says Korea wasn’t worth tying up those units.

[gamerman01]

Congratulations to both, for apparently having a very fulfilling game

[axis-dominion]

@Gamerman01:

Congratulations to both, for apparently having a very fulfilling game

Thanks man. Was one of the funner games for sure!

[axis-dominion]

Yah would love to explore what would happen had I maintained turkey. Mind setting it up for us?

@wheatbeer:

Thanks, I dunno how fast I’ll make the required number of games for a best of 5, but I’ll give you a rematch when that happens.

I think retaking Moscow was the right call … but if you ever have the free time and inclination, we could play a test game from before then for a few rounds and see how it shapes up.

I don’t know for certain what would have happened if the second Moscow fall had been delayed/avoided, but I would guess that Japan would still have grown increasingly powerful and kept the economic balance (excluding China) in favor of the Axis. Such a game might have lasted much much longer though  :lol:

Aside from the points you mention, I think the Soviet Far East army might have made a bigger impact on the game if they had returned to Europe after China was safely liberated. I can both sides of the argument here, but my guts says Korea wasn’t worth tying up those units.

[wheatbeer]

Take a look at G14, is this the right spot?

[wheatbeer]

It looks like you liberated Moscow on R14, so this would be the latest map.

The main Soviet army was based in Rostov at the start of this round.

[axis-dominion]

sorry for the delay on this, will take a look later tonight and go from there. lots of games going on :)