@Stucifer said in League General Discussion Thread:
I posted this in the strategy discussion thread, I published a video going over my J2 strategy a couple days ago and a new video today discussing PTV changes from OOB.
J2 Strategy video:
https://youtu.be/0JK0TXDrYGY?si=U_sTL42aK_FfuH4jIntroduction to PTV:
https://youtu.be/YPJ_I0qxGBU?si=bYbZHALTBa0n49-e
This is great, thanks for putting this together!
I’m hardly a top player, but I think it’s due to an overall improvement in the play of the league over the years.
@AndrewAAGamer has an excellent series of articles educating players, which is a great starting point.
Also, the interviews conducted by @crockett36 with Andrew and other top players is great info.
Any of the OOB finals or semi-finals over the last 2-3 years would be good study material.
Agree, this is the jumping in point for new online players, so adhering to the standard rules as much as reasonably possible to make a “fair” game will make the transition easier. Plus the tactics will translate directly to improve over the board play. I think the current bid mechanics do that well.
BM and PTV are the variants to explore rule changes, and more dramatic map/rule changes respectively.
@peirce said in Post League Game Results Here:
@axis-dominion Love all of this dialogue here!If you’re formally resigning the game, happy to re-do that battle with LL on (for that battle), and see where it takes us. I’m new to the Forum, of course, and very new to PTV, but I’ve been playing BM for many years, and I really like the PTV map. Happy to put my
By posting here, I think @axis-domination DID resign the game - did I miss something? Most people post something like “so-and-so wins, will played”, but it seems in the heat of the moment this did not occur. :)
BTW, here are the entire dice stats. The TOTAL dice rolls look entire fair. However the distribution for Axis rolls is skewed slightly lower, and Allies slightly higher. What can you do - it’s a random number generator, given enough rolls it will start to look fair for each power, but will vary slightly with low sample size.
I believe someone did try playing a large bid to China. Not sure, but I think it was @Arthur-Bomber-Harris vs @AndrewAAGamer
I suspect there is a lot of game play/strategy differences that come into play for someone to win as Axis against a ~60 Allies bid.
Maybe the best way to balance is to play 2 games, flipping sides with the same bid. Of course, dice luck can also come into play, so not a perfect measure.
Have enjoyed all my games in the League. Learning lots each match, plenty of room for growth as well! Thx for the games @simon33
Sorry to hear, condolences to you and your family. You were the first person to play a game with me on these forums. We’ll miss having you around.
Great hype posts! Happy to be in the playoffs amongst all these legends. Having been smashed numerous times, and also being from the same state as General Disarray, I will not be surprised if he takes at least 1 of these championships!
Thanks guys for taking a look!
After the disastrous G1, against someone of Farmboy’s caliber, my thinking was this game was effectively over. I think overall France was at +7 hits after turn 2, which was ridiculous.
I went full “risk on” for J1, as I had nothing to lose at that point. Got lucky on several key coin flips (mainly attacking the Anzac DD and Transport), so the game continued on!
German was severely hampered though, having lost all art and mechs in France. I think the “avg” outcome is to lose 7 infantry with an all ground attack.
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 1
Purchase Units - ANZAC
ANZAC buy 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - ANZAC
Non Combat Move - ANZAC
1 artillery moved from Queensland to New South Wales
1 infantry moved from Queensland to New South Wales
1 aaGun moved from New South Wales to Queensland
2 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
ANZAC take Java from Dutch
1 fighter moved from Queensland to Java
2 fighters moved from New Zealand to Java
1 cruiser moved from 63 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
Place Units - ANZAC
1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
1 infantry placed in New South Wales
Turn Complete - ANZAC
ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs
Combat Move - French
1 destroyer moved from 72 Sea Zone to 58 Sea Zone
Non Combat Move - French
2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria
1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
1 infantry moved from French West Africa to French Central Africa
Turn Complete - French
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Yeah, I probably went heavier in the Pac theater than typical with the bid, which you took advantage of with a strong G1 opener. Good rolls as well.
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 1
Purchase Units - Americans
Americans buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Americans
Non Combat Move - Americans
1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Philippines to Guam
1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
1 artillery moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
1 artillery moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
1 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 51 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
1 artillery moved from Eastern United States to Central United States
1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Central United States
1 bomber moved from Central United States to Eastern United States
2 mech_infantrys moved from Central United States to Western United States
Place Units - Americans
1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 101 Sea Zone
2 carriers and 1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone
Turn Complete - Americans
Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs
Purchase Units - Chinese
Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open
Chinese buy 3 artilleries; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Chinese
5 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan
1 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan
2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi
Non Combat Move - Chinese
Place Units - Chinese
3 artilleries placed in Szechwan
Turn Complete - Chinese
Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 9 PUs
Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 15 PUs
Purchase Units - British
British repair damage of 6x factory_major; Remaining resources: 22 PUs;
British buy 1 destroyer and 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 4 PUs;
Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
UK_Pacific buy 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - British
1 destroyer moved from 111 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
2 fighters moved from Scotland to 110 Sea Zone
2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 106 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
Combat - British
Battle in 96 Sea Zone
British attack with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
British roll dice for 1 submarine in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
British roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 destroyer owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone
1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone
British win with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
Battle in 110 Sea Zone
British attack with 1 destroyer and 4 fighters
Germans defend with 1 battleship and 1 submarine
British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 4 fighters in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
1 battleship owned by the Germans and 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 110 Sea Zone
British win with 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship and 1 submarine
Battle in 106 Sea Zone
British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
Germans defend with 2 submarines
British roll dice for 1 submarine in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
British roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 destroyer in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 submarine owned by the British lost in 106 Sea Zone
1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 106 Sea Zone
British roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 destroyer in 106 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 106 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 106 Sea Zone
British win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
Casualties for British: 1 submarine
Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines
Non Combat Move - British
3 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to Scotland
1 battleship moved from 111 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
1 cruiser moved from 111 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
1 carrier moved from 98 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
1 cruiser moved from 98 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to United Kingdom
1 aaGun moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from 106 Sea Zone to Quebec
1 infantry moved from Ontario to Quebec
1 artillery moved from Ontario to Quebec
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 96 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Alexandria to 98 Sea Zone
1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Persia
British take Persia from Neutral_Allies
1 armour moved from Alexandria to Egypt
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Persia
1 fighter moved from Burma to India
1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from West India to 79 Sea Zone
1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 79 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
UK_Pacific take Sumatra from Dutch
3 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State
1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from India to Burma
3 aaGuns moved from India to Burma
1 battleship moved from 37 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 71 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
Place Units - British
1 fighter placed in United Kingdom
1 destroyer placed in 110 Sea Zone
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Scotland: 1 fighter
EDIT: Adding units owned by British to United Kingdom: 1 fighter
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by British from United Kingdom: 1 fighter
EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Scotland: 1 fighter
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 83 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 81 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Persia: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
EDIT: Adding units owned by British to India: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turn Complete - British
British collect 30 PUs; end with 34 PUs
Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 39 PUs
Place Units - UK_Pacific
3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in India
Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
UK_Pacific collect 21 PUs; end with 21 PUs
Some Units in India change ownership: 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Italians regular : -0.33
Germans regular : 0.67
British regular : 0.83
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 1
Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 2 artilleries, 7 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Politics - Russians
Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese
Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Russians from Neutrality to War
Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Chinese from Neutrality to Allied
Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied
Combat Move - Russians
Non Combat Move - Russians
1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
6 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
6 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Sikang
2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Yunnan
1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Volgograd
2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus
1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Russia
2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus
3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
1 cruiser moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
Place Units - Russians
2 mech_infantrys placed in Volgograd
2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Novgorod
3 infantry placed in Ukraine
3 infantry placed in Russia
Turn Complete - Russians
Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
No scramble or intercept.
In 106, if Germany gets first hit, take it on DD and submerge sub. If UK get first hit, sub stays and fights and will be 1st casualty.
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition
Game History
Round: 1
Purchase Units - Germans
Combat Hit Differential Summary :