I suspect there is a lot of game play/strategy differences that come into play for someone to win as Axis against a ~60 Allies bid.
Maybe the best way to balance is to play 2 games, flipping sides with the same bid. Of course, dice luck can also come into play, so not a perfect measure.
Have enjoyed all my games in the League. Learning lots each match, plenty of room for growth as well! Thx for the games @simon33
Sorry to hear, condolences to you and your family. You were the first person to play a game with me on these forums. We’ll miss having you around.
A bid is used to help balance the game to more “even” odds of either side winning. In my opinion, 1941 favors the Axis, so to play Allies, you could bid for it. Say one person starts the bid at 15 IPC, and another says they would play Allies for 13, etc. Whoever bids lowest, is the winner of the bid and plays the Allies in this case.
They then get to use their bid as additional units they can place on the board at setup. Usually the bid requires the country to already have units in the space. You can search these boards for more discussion/rules concerning bids.
I should clarify, new to League, but fairly experienced playing A&A, and G40 on Triple A. Hope to be a competitive player. :)
Nope, that’s the one. Dawg was a 75% favorite to win that battle. With the complete blank on the first round, things really started poorly. He only hits 2 in the 2nd round. What really hurts is that 3rd round, where Germany hits 5/6, to take out Russia’s entire air force. Germany wins that one, losing only 3 mechs. Russia scores only 3 hits the entire 3 rounds, despite having 5 @3 and 1 @4 for much of that battle.
Yeah, the bomber run on US1 really surprised me. I thought there was a problem in the game file, as UK only had to deal with 2 subs, until I went back and looked at the finer details!
Dawg had some bad luck with AA fire. I’m in a current game, and think I’ve been subjected to ~15 bombing runs against me, and 0 AA hits!
Yeah, I thought it would be a fun thing to have folks submit their worst “getting diced” moment, and we have a vote or sthg to see who wins. At least it would soften the blow, knowing you have a good submission for the year.
For League play, could develop some kind of rating system, where a bid does not mean the same thing depending on the player level.
For example, if the players are equally rated, the bid is as given straight up. If there is a tier difference between players, it becomes the bid + say 5 ipc * (tier level differential). This could scale down or up the bid, depending if the higher or lower tier player is playing Allies respectively.
Actually, maybe too complicated to scale up and down, it just needs to go one way. If a strong Tier M axis player is up against a Tier 1, and thinks the fair bid to play Allies is 60, the Tier M would have to be willing to go to an Allies bid of 50, knowing the rating will be adding 10 to the lower Tier 1. This is assuming we think 5 * level differential is the right number.
Could help the strong Axis players get a little bit of variety. :)
@simon33 said in Booper (Allies+21) vs Simon33 (Axis) BM Game II:
The UK tank which got on the transport in SZ91 has to attack if it does so during combat movement.
Ah, OK, wasn’t aware of that. I’ll edit so I would not have picked up the tank then. Thx
Stucifer over Booper, great play.
L24 BM Stucifer(X) vs Booper (L+22)
I’m just going to call it here. Excellent play, congrats!
Well, I think that’s going to be it. That lone stinking infantry killed 2 planes!
Game History
Round: 7
Purchase Units - ANZAC
ANZAC buy 1 aaGun and 2 armour; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - ANZAC
4 fighters moved from New South Wales to South Australia
Combat - ANZAC
Battle in South Australia
ANZAC attack with 4 fighters
Japanese defend with 1 infantry
ANZAC roll dice for 4 fighters in South Australia, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in South Australia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 fighter owned by the ANZAC lost in South Australia
1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in South Australia
ANZAC win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7
Casualties for ANZAC: 1 fighter
Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - ANZAC
3 fighters moved from South Australia to New South Wales
Place Units - ANZAC
1 aaGun and 2 armour placed in New South Wales
Turn Complete - ANZAC
ANZAC collect 6 PUs; end with 6 PUs
Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 9 PUs
Combat Move - French
Turn Complete - French
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : 0.67
ANZAC regular : 1.00
Revised file. Well played, need some luck next round to keep it going.
I might as well have the UK bomber attack the infantry on South Australia. Will roll it here.
First Bomber, then infantry defense roll.
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Game History
Round: 7
Purchase Units - Americans
Americans buy 1 carrier and 9 submarines; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;
Combat Move - Americans
1 unit repaired.
3 transports moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
1 armour, 6 artilleries, 10 infantry, 2 marines and 2 mech_infantrys moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
1 battleship, 2 carriers, 3 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 2 marines moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
2 marines moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
2 fighters moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
Combat - Americans
Americans creates battle in territory 112 Sea Zone
Battle in 112 Sea Zone
Americans attack with 1 submarine
Germans defend with 1 transport
1 transport owned by the Germans lost in 112 Sea Zone
Americans win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
Casualties for Germans: 1 transport
Battle in Gibraltar
Americans attack with 2 artilleries and 3 infantry
Italians defend with 1 harbour and 1 infantry
Americans roll dice for 1 cruiser in Gibraltar, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
Americans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 3 infantry in Gibraltar, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits
Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Gibraltar, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Gibraltar
1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Gibraltar
Americans win, taking Gibraltar from Italians with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
Battle in Morocco
Americans attack with 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 7 infantry, 2 marines and 2 mech_infantrys
Italians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Americans roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Morocco, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Morocco, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
1 artillery owned by the Italians and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Morocco
Americans win, taking Morocco from Italians with 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 7 infantry, 2 marines and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - Americans
4 fighters moved from 103 Sea Zone to Western United States
2 carriers and 2 destroyers moved from 103 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
1 aaGun moved from Central United States to Western United States
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
Place Units - Americans
1 carrier and 9 submarines placed in 10 Sea Zone
Turn Complete - Americans
Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 26 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,2,2,3,6,3,5,5,3,4,1,6,4,2,4,3,5,1,1,6,5,5
Americans collect 52 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 55 PUs
Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 65 PUs
Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs
Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs
Purchase Units - Chinese
Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
Chinese buy 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;
Combat Move - Chinese
6 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan
4 infantry moved from Shensi to Kweichow
3 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Kansu
Combat - Chinese
Battle in Kweichow
Chinese attack with 4 infantry
Japanese defend with 1 infantry
Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Kweichow, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kweichow
Chinese win, taking Kweichow from Japanese with 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
Battle in Kansu
Chinese attack with 3 infantry
Japanese defend with 1 infantry
Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Kansu, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kansu, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kansu
Chinese win, taking Kansu from Japanese with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
Battle in Szechwan
Chinese attack with 6 infantry
Japanese defend with 1 infantry
Chinese roll dice for 6 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 1.00 expected hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Szechwan
Chinese win, taking Szechwan from Japanese with 6 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - Chinese
Place Units - Chinese
1 infantry placed in Kweichow
Turn Complete - Chinese
Chinese collect 6 PUs; end with 7 PUs
Purchase Units - British
British buy 1 carrier, 2 destroyers and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;
Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
UK_Pacific buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;
Combat Move - British
1 armour moved from India to Yunnan
2 mech_infantrys moved from Burma to Yunnan
2 artilleries moved from Burma to Yunnan
10 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
1 bomber moved from India to New South Wales
1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State
UK_Pacific take Shan State from Japanese
3 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
1 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Eastern Persia
2 infantry moved from Persia to Eastern Persia
1 infantry moved from India to Burma
3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Yunnan
1 fighter moved from 109 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
1 artillery moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
1 carrier, 2 destroyers and 1 fighter moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 armour moved from Central United States to Quebec
1 infantry moved from Ontario to Quebec
1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
1 armour moved from French Equatorial Africa to Egypt
Combat - British
Battle in 92 Sea Zone
British attack with 1 fighter
Italians defend with 1 transport
1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 92 Sea Zone
British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
Casualties for Italians: 1 transport
Battle in Yunnan
British attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 3 fighters, 14 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
Japanese defend with 1 infantry
British roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 3 fighters, 14 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 4/23 hits, 6.33 expected hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
British win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 3 fighters, 14 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - British
3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to India
1 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
1 aaGun moved from Burma to Yunnan
1 fighter moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
1 artillery moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
Place Units - British
1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 81 Sea Zone
1 destroyer placed in 71 Sea Zone
Turn Complete - British
British collect 33 PUs; end with 36 PUs
Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 39 PUs
Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 42 PUs
Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 45 PUs
Place Units - UK_Pacific
2 infantry placed in India
Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 39 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,2
UK_Pacific collect 5 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 6 PUs
Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 9 PUs
Some Units in India change ownership: 2 infantry
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 1.17
Americans regular : 0.33
Japanese regular : -1.67
Italians regular : 0.00
British regular : -2.33
Game History
Round: 7
Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 3 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Russians
1 infantry moved from Karelia to Finland
Russians take Finland from Germans
1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
1 infantry moved from Belarus to Baltic States
1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Eastern Poland
1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Eastern Poland
1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bessarabia
3 infantry moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
1 artillery moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
Combat - Russians
Battle in Bessarabia
Russians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
Germans defend with 1 mech_infantry
Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bessarabia
Russians win, taking Bessarabia from Germans with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
Battle in Baltic States
Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
Germans defend with 1 infantry
Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
Russians win, taking Baltic States from Germans with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Battle in Eastern Poland
Russians attack with 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Eastern Poland
Russians win, taking Eastern Poland from Germans with 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - Russians
1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Novgorod
1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Novgorod
1 fighter moved from Baltic States to Novgorod
1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Karelia to Finland
4 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Finland
1 armour moved from Novgorod to Finland
1 aaGun moved from Novgorod to Belarus
6 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus
1 armour moved from Archangel to Novgorod
1 artillery moved from Novgorod to Belarus
2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Vologda to Archangel
1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
1 artillery moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
3 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Ukraine
1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Ukraine to Belarus
1 mech_infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Belarus
1 mech_infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Belarus
1 mech_infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Belarus
Place Units - Russians
1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Ukraine
2 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Novgorod
5 mech_infantrys placed in Russia
Turn Complete - Russians
Russians collect 42 PUs; end with 42 PUs
Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 45 PUs
Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 47 PUs
Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 49 PUs
Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 51 PUs
Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 54 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : -1.33
Russians regular : 2.67
Game History
Round: 6
Purchase Units - ANZAC
ANZAC buy 2 armour and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 5 PUs;
Combat Move - ANZAC
1 armour moved from New South Wales to South Australia
ANZAC take South Australia from Japanese
1 armour moved from South Australia to New South Wales
1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
ANZAC take Tunisia from Italians
Combat - ANZAC
Non Combat Move - ANZAC
1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
1 cruiser moved from 26 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
Place Units - ANZAC
2 armour and 1 infantry placed in New South Wales
Turn Complete - ANZAC
ANZAC collect 9 PUs; end with 14 PUs
Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 17 PUs
Combat Move - French
Turn Complete - French
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
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