Need Help to Finalize HBG Japan Set!

[Variable]

Spoke with Coach for a bit tonight. Looks like we will be doing this set in oob Burnt Orange, Red like the old Pacific game, and Yellow. This way there is flexibility for veteran and Thai units. Does this change anyone’s choices?

[Bob_A_Mickelson]

@Variable:

Spoke with Coach for a bit tonight. Looks like we will be doing this set in oob Burnt Orange, Red like the old Pacific game, and Yellow. This way there is flexibility for veteran and Thai units. Does this change anyone’s choices?

“Yellow” from neutral set? I hope so. The more crossovers with existing set colors the better IMHO.

[Imperious Leader]

This Yellow:

[Variable]

IL: What Pantone code is that yellow? It looks kinda like the Axis Minor Mustard color on my screen. In my mind I was thinking more like the bright yellow from the Axis Minor set but Coach has not yet specified.

[DrLarsen]

If it is or is close to that axis minor mustard color, that might be too close to the oob Nationalist Chinese color and the yellow-green HBG “neutrals” color.  We need a color that won’t be confused with potential enemies.  Something more like the neutral yellow.  Combine this with the original oob Pacific red, this would give us 3 distinct Japanese-aligned colors, all clearly distinct from their potential enemies.

[CWO Marc]

@DrLarsen:

If it is or is close to that axis minor mustard color, that might be too close to the oob Nationalist Chinese color and the yellow-green HBG “neutrals” color.  We need a color that won’t be confused with potential enemies.  Something more like the neutral yellow.  Combine this with the original oob Pacific red, this would give us 3 distinct Japanese-aligned colors, all clearly distinct from their potential enemies.

I agree that we need to avoid confusion with enemy unit colours.  The problem with the yellow colour from the old Classic game is that it resembles too much (especially in some lighting conditions) the shades of tan / beige used for the British (one of Japan’s direct opponents).

[HBG]

It will be done in the yellow gold that HBG paints its Veteran pieces.

[Bob_A_Mickelson]

Forgive my ignorance, is “yellow gold” a different than the “yellow”? I would love it if sometime you made a color chart comparison sheet that list which lists all sets available in certain colors. I have a hard time keeping track of all the color types. Some are quite subtle.

As for me I am far more likely to buy multiple sets if I know a color is available in multiple sets.

Thanks for listening.

[virtualpender]

@Bob_A_Mickelson:

Forgive my ignorance, is “yellow gold” a different than the “yellow”? I would love it if sometime you made a color chart comparison sheet that list which lists all sets available in certain colors. I have a hard time keeping track of all the color types. Some are quite subtle.

As for me I am far more likely to buy multiple sets if I know a color is available in multiple sets.

Thanks for listening.

I agree. Duplicating colors used already in the Axis Minor and Neutral sets would be ideal.

[hasdrubal207]

I plan to use RED for the Communist RED CHINESE (using the new Soviet/Russian set in Red).

Would it be possible to make a ROSE color set, to match the painted Rose THAI/SIAM pieces?

[GoSanchez6]

I like IL’s idea of the mustard yellow. Almost a yellow brown for Japan.

[Bob_A_Mickelson]

@GoSanchez6:

I like IL’s idea of the mustard yellow. Almost a yellow brown for Japan.

I agree. I prefer mustard over neutral yellow. Though my primary concern is multi set color crossovers in order to maximize unit varieties for house rules.

[Variable]

Made a bunch of updates to the list and bolding. We are locking things in slowly. Still need some help with the carriers and opinions on all the new tank choices. Tried to take everyone’s thoughts into consideration.

[korruptkaos]

I’m glad to be part of this community. I was taking a look at some of the new pieces you will be making. I like IL’s idea of remaking the Yamato super battleships and I’m glad to see Japan is getting the navy that they deserve. I think Japan should receive both a light cruiser and a heavy cruiser. Also I like to see the KI-100 included in this set as a true late war fighter. Also a mid to late war A6M Zero should be added to counter the American F4U corsair. Also is it possible to add a heavy tank.

[Lunarwolf]

@korruptkaos:

I’m glad to be part of this community. I was taking a look at some of the new pieces you will be making. I like IL’s idea of remaking the Yamato super battleships and I’m glad to see Japan is getting the navy that they deserve. I think Japan should receive both a light cruiser and a heavy cruiser. Also I like to see the KI-100 included in this set as a true late war fighter. Also a mid to late war A6M Zero should be added to counter the American F4U corsair. Also is it possible to add a heavy tank.

welcome kurrupt, i pretty much agree with all of your suggestions, expect i dont think japan really needs a heavy tank. Japan really didnt have any plus i doubt the Japanese player will be buying any heavy tanks . plus they are already getting a supped up navy

[Variable]

For those that think the Zero should be included, what would you give up on the current list?

[Lunarwolf]

no more tony but depends if you add the Ki-100 instead of the tony do you still need to take one other one out?

[WARRIOR888]

Variable,

Is the Japanese set going to be limited to 28 peices per set?  If it is then I suggest you scrap the truck and the light tank.  Go with a decent med tank and add another fighter and a major fleet carrier to replace them.

WARRIOR888

[WARRIOR888]

Drlarsen:

Making SBB’s into CB’s with an exacto sounds fairly straightforward (though I’d still love to see a pic whenever it’s convenient for you.)  But the A-150 mod sounds complicated. It sounds like you’re doing some painting then?  Are you detailing or just doing a flat country-specific color?  I’d reather avoid painting things this small in the first place; detailing them sounds like a bridge too far for my lack of ability…

In response to your question about painting minatures, I have painted well over 10,000 AA, World at War, Xeno, Navwar, Sytrex, GHQ, Heroics and Ross, FMG and HBG minatures. I use mainly Model Masters paints when I can find them or Testors acrylic miltary flats.  My IJN Fleet is painted a very dark gray for hulls and superstructures and deck tan for all decks and flight decks all funnels are flat black.  All IJN Carriers have meatballs on them and some I decaled with arrestor gear. Japanese aircraft are several colors from white and green early and pre-war to mottled green and gray mid to late war, all have meatballs on the wings.  I painted my IJN ships and planes to match my 1-700 scale waterline IJN Fleet.  All Jap armour and artillery is painted yellow with green camo streaks all over. Artillery is glued to Jap roundels.  Imperial Jap Army and SNLF troops I am still exerperimenting with color patterns. Most of them are HO or 172nd scale minatures.
WARRIOR888

[Yavid]

SNLF Marine
Type 94 6-wheel Truck
Type 92 Armored Car
Type 1 Ho-Ha Mech Inf
Type 97 Shinhoto Chi-Ha Medium Tank
Type 3 Ho-Ni III Tank Destroyer
Type 4 Ho-Ro SP Artillery
Ki-57 Transport Plane
Ki-43 Oscar Early War Fighter
B5N Kate torpedo Bomber
G8N Heavy bomber
Chuyo Escort/Light Carrier
Kaga Fleet Carrier
Fuso Class Early war Battleship

this are my votes