"The 2nd Great War"

My idea for using the TGW map for a WWII scenario basically involved breaking the war into phases, starting in 1939 (after the surrender of Poland); in hindsight, 1940 (after the fall of Denmark and Norway, with the USSR annexing the Baltic states) probably makes more sense.

Basically, most countries would be inactive, until certain triggers happen. (I never got deep into the rules/setup, so this is mostly just a thumbnail sketch.)

Phase 1: Germany invades Belgium and Netherlands; once conquered, Italy becomes an active Axis power
Phase 2: Germany invades France; UK becomes an active Allied power; once France is defeated (Axis capture 50% or more of French territories by IPC value, OR capture Paris) Vichy France is established
Phase 3: the minor Axis countries (“Danubian states & Finland”) becomes an Axis power, allowing Axis units to move through their territory; they become an active Axis power after Germany conquers Yugoslavia
Phase 4: After conquering Greece, the Axis can invade the USSR; after the USSR is attacked, the US joins the war (as an active Allied power/contributing full income/etc.)
Phase 5: Once Vichy France is defeated (Allies capture 50% or more of Vichy territories by IPC value) Vichy France is absorbed by Germany
Phase 6: Once Italy is defeated (Allies capture 50% or more of starting Italian territories by IPC value) Italy is absorbed by Germany

Major Neutrals: (all use 8 IPCs for purposes of influence scale?)

Spain: favours Germany or France(?) Yugoslavia: favours Italy or USSR(?) Turkey: favours Danubian States or UK(?)

Territorial Changes (to reflect 1940)

Germany: add Austria, Bohemia, Carinthia, Tirol, Poland, Galicia, Denmark, Norway; remove German Africa Convoy UK: add Mesopotamia, Palestine, German Africa Convoy; remove Ireland, British Africa Convoy Italy: add Albania, Carniola, British Africa Convoy France: add Syria USSR: add Armenia; remove Finland, Poland

New nations:

Danubian States & Finland: Finland, West Hungary, East Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria Yugoslavia: Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia, Montenegro Turkey: Thrace, Anatolia, Ankara, Kurdistan

Anybody have any information on Larrys new Napoleonic game? I would love to hear it. Thanks

Version 2.0.8 Updates (all files in original post updated):

Russian DOW moved to turn 4 Starting Unit Changes:
o F4 – 2 Less Infantry
o F3 – 1 Less Infantry
o UK3 – 1 Less AA Gun A4 added to German Sea Lion objective Plundering is now specific to each city/complex rather than each territory to accommodate factories built on territories previously taken France escalation chart changed slightly to allow French ships to end movement next to Axis territories if also adjacent to French territories Fixed some TripleA objectives that didn’t fire if necessary territories were owned by allies Fixed French industrial complex that didn’t transfer IPCs properly (F5) Some additional notes added to the “Unenforced Rules and Known TripleA Issues” section in the game notes Added note in rules that US War Time Production objective can optionally be 5 IPCs if players agree (TripleA will always be 10 IPCS)

@dishero Thanks very much! Please do give it a playtest as you have time; I’m without a group to play with at the moment and the more eyes the better, of course.

@mozkaynak

This is the correct topic for G40 Balance Mod rules questions:
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/27451/g40-balance-mod-rules-and-download/

@tincanofthesea when I designed the game I tried very hard to allow it to replicate any action that actually happened during the war.
The war started in June 1950, by August North Korea nearly pushed the Allies off Korea completely.
So yeah, that can happen in the game… although it isn’t very easy.
Another example is that I changed the movement value for naval units from 4 to 5. My reason was that it was impossible to transfer units from the West coast (Inchon) to the East coast (Wonsan) in one move. This actually happened during the war. In October 1950 Marines were pulled from Inchon to Wonsan.
The turns are month based. One turn round (both players have moved) equals one month.

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@all-encompassing-goose

Let me try sending it again:

@all-encompassing-goose

Axis And Allies 1932 seems too unbalanced for me. This was before the Nazis rose to power, and if the game is set in 1938 or 1939, the Nazis will just be killed by the Western Allies-if a game needs to be balanced, the earliest date that can be done is the date that the 1940 game starts with, when the French Army, the biggest threat to Germany, is more or less destroyed. I guess an early 1940 game, after German troops redeployed from Poland, could work.

The political aspect of the war has always been interesting to me. Whilst players simply making deals can work, I feel like it can be better, but I don’t know how. Having shifting alliances, however it’s done, can be a lot of fun though, as it adds a lot of unpredictably to the game, and can make the situation like Diplomacy (which I never played, I’m just basing it off of what I read).

Late war research and development sounds like a good idea, especially as military technology would have advanced faster than real life, as all countries would be at war, trying to advance technology as fast as possible. Nuclear weapons seem interesting, as I explore in this topic:

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/37409/nuclear-bomb-addition-for-axis-and-allies-global-1940/4

Switching sides, especially if they already are at the start of the game and can continue to change, can make the war last a really long time, and can make it crazy and fun-I wonder how will victory conditions work though?

@all-encompassing-goose

Then what to explain the existence of places (such as “Southern USSR” and “Atlantic”) that don’t exist as territories or sea zones on the game board? How does this AI work? Thank you!

@all-encompassing-goose

Awesome! World’s top two navies against the world, in addition to you additional house rules are brilliant!

Great, crazy ideas! I love it when people mess with the rules in an unexpected way.

Maybe you should have Canada and ANZAC under direct control of the UK, reduce the neutrality rules of the US and the Soviet Union by one turn, and remove the new Eastern Front rules.

@all-encompassing-goose

Crazy!

You have some of the most interesting ideas on this forum.

I would only have the two boards fighting each other change and the part where the boards don’t wrap around, but not the Panama Canal or national objective rules-just a fe questions and recommendations:

So I assume that West India is given back to UK Europe, and Western Canada is given back to UK Pacific-is that right? Thank you!

Is there a capital for the Soviet Far Eastern territories?

You might need to make a new map, as the proportions on the map do not allow for your idea to work effectively, unless they are already explained before playing, but that might be tough, especially with the sea zones.

For national objectives, change all references for the respective powers from Allies or Axis to the respective map alliance (of course, this means Japan get all their national objectives, but it also means that Italy and Germany get most of their national objectives as well).

Finally, all Soviet national objectives should be given to the Europe side (how the Soviets will get their Berlin national objective is if they liberate it, there is still the first time rule), and all Pacific related national objectives should go to the US Pacific, and all Europe related national objectives should go to Europe US. This assumes that all national objectives are for the global version. The 10 IPCs for the US control Eastern, Central, and Western United States is split evenly between US Europe and Pacifc

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This is the pacific setup with convoy boxes and the 9 island groups on this side doesn’t show the cards. But the cards are colored and there also is a colored dot by the island in the groups.

Here’s a taste of German event cards but some have been changed.

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