yah. just do default casualties please.

@trulpen lolz. in metric, everything sounds bigger.

@simon33 the version numbers have changed in the YAML every time we’ve issue a major update.

You can use the “update” option (rather than manually deleting and reinstalling the map) by simply clicking “DOWNLOAD MAPS,” then “GOOD QUALITY” and then selecting “UPDATES” and it will give you the opportunity to download the most recent version.

@DrakeMortis full scramble 2 fighters, 1 tac please. max defense.

nice.welcome back

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 3 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
        Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Broken Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 battleship moved from 116 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 121 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 111 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 106 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 113 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 114 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Norway to 114 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
        1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 artillery moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 armour moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
        2 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to France
        3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Austria to France
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
        1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
        2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Austria to Yugoslavia
        1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
        1 fighter moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
        1 submarine moved from 120 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone

    Combat - Germans
        British scrambles 1 units out of Scotland to defend against the attack in 114 Sea Zone
        Battle in 114 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
            British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.17 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                1 destroyer owned by the British, 1 submarine owned by the Germans and 1 cruiser owned by the British lost in 114 Sea Zone
            1 battleship owned by the Germans and 1 submarine owned by the Germans retreated to 115 Sea Zone
            British win with 1 battleship and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13
            Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
            Casualties for British: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
        Battle in 113 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 4 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser; French defend with 1 cruiser
                Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/8 hits, 4.50 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                British roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the French and 2 submarines owned by the Germans lost in 113 Sea Zone
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 113 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/8 hits, 4.50 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in 113 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the British, 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in 113 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
            Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
            Casualties for French: 1 cruiser
            Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
        Battle in 109 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 submarine
            British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 109 Sea Zone
            British win with 1 destroyer and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
            Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
        Battle in France
            Germans attack with 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys
            British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery; French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in France, round 2 : 8/17 hits, 5.83 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry in France, round 2 : 3/11 hits, 4.33 expected hits
                1 aaGun owned by the French, 3 infantry owned by the Germans, 6 infantry owned by the French and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in France
                Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in France, round 3 : 2/14 hits, 5.33 expected hits
                French roll dice for 2 armour, 1 artillery and 1 fighter in France, round 3 : 3/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 artillery owned by the British and 1 armour owned by the British lost in France
                Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 mech_infantrys in France, round 4 : 5/11 hits, 4.50 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 armour and 1 fighter in France, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Germans, 1 armour owned by the French and 1 fighter owned by the French lost in France
            Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital
            Germans converts factory_major into different units
            Germans win, taking France from French with 5 armour, 1 artillery and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 31
            Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 6 infantry
            Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery
        Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
            Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 infantry owned by the French and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Normandy Bordeaux
            Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        Battle in Yugoslavia
            Germans attack with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 9 infantry
            Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 9 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 4/15 hits, 4.50 expected hits
                Neutral_Allies roll dice for 5 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                4 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Yugoslavia
            2 artilleries owned by the Germans, 8 infantry owned by the Germans and 3 armour owned by the Germans retreated to Romania
            Neutral_Allies win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
        Moving scrambled unit from 114 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Scotland
        Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French
        triggerFrenchDestroyPUsGermans: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to French

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy
        1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 transport moved from 117 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 117 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Denmark to 115 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Norway
        3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
              Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis
        1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
              Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis
        1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Germany
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 113 Sea Zone to Northern Italy
        1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 114 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        1 infantry moved from Denmark to Western Germany
        2 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Poland

    Place Units - Germans
        1 submarine placed in 115 Sea Zone
        3 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 39 PUs; end with 58 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs
        Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Northern Italy: 1 mech_infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : -0.17
Neutral_Allies regular : -0.67
Germans regular : -6.83
British regular : 0.67

Savegame

scramble szs 113, 114, Normandy?

TripleA Move Summary: Germans round 1

TripleA Move Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 1

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 3 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
        Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Broken Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 battleship moved from 116 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 121 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 111 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 106 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 113 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 114 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Norway to 114 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
        1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 artillery moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 armour moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
        2 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to France
        3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Austria to France
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
        1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
        2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Austria to Yugoslavia
        1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
        1 fighter moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
        1 submarine moved from 120 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone

Savegame

Good luck and have fun, guys.

Hey Gargantua, I definitely see where you are coming from about France.

Although PTV and BM both remove substantial disincentives to liberating france (e.g., eliminating the repeat-capital-plunder dynamic of G40, adding US NOs for mere presence in Normandy, etc.), it remains the case that France is all-too-frequently seen as a no-go zone for the Allies until after the fate of Western Europe is already decided.

One way to help rectify this problem would be to give France a national objective (for example, +5 for controlling France, Normandy, Southern France), putting more Allied income on the table for a liberated France, than without it.

I am apprehensive about the idea of a “liberate” button for France, both because of the coding challenges it would present, and because it introduces yet another faction-specific dynamic, which we generally try to avoid unless necessary.

I have added the proposal of the French NO to the list of ideas for us to consider in version 5 of the map.