Thank you for responding!
I checked out Charles De Gaulle’s one, it looks interesting, but I’ve found so many different customs to the game that it will be a while before I get to it, but it looks great.
I will be posting my stuff here from now on for my game.
Here is posts of all old info for my game. Future reply’s will be here for my game from now on.
I have made more updates to game and will post map pics and charts and reintroduce whats in my game.
Its a D12 die system. It is based on a lot of historical stuff that works in game with National Adjectives, Weather chart,
Event Cards, Tech, Generals, Admirals, Strict Neutral influences, 3 Colored Island group with colored dots by islands for map reference which are National Objectives worth 5 Icps each with 6 colored groups in the Pacific and 2 colored groups in the Med for now which promotes more action in the Pacific with Japan helping with an axis victory by holding the refineries in 2 Dutch Islands and not having Germany do all the work in game and Italy a big player now too, Naval planes on Carriers only, Ships getting plane shots the same time as ships shots, Tac and Dive Bombers getting a chance to pick targets, planes attacking planes same time as shooting ground or ships, Subs being able to dive with destroyers present and Victory is based on City’s worth points and 4 Bonus victory points available for the axis. Axis gets 30 points and holds for 1 turn wins.
USA and all rest of countries are at war. No more waiting for USA. A big complaint in most games was US waiting to get to war.
I’ll post more info soon.
These are my event cards I use. 8 countries each get a deck of 12 good and 10 bad. Spices things up in game.
Here’s my magnetic charts I use for the Tech, Income, NA”s and city’s worth points.
Pics from Saturday, August 17, 2019. Result: Allied Victory
Looking great… How many hours did you play for? Was there a bid or have you been able to balance it?
Haha, What side did Carl play? I may have to ride down with him sometime… I am 2 hours from him… Could possibly ride with him–have to talk to him about it… 9 hours isnt bad. What round were you guys able to get through?
Carl played US. We got to turn 7. But game is decided pretty much by then. Axis if we keep going would not get to 30 points.
Will get in a few more turns once we get new guys on board and we play a few more games.
Also Carl doesn’t usually reply if he’s coming until the night before games due to his work
@SS-GEN Yeah his work is tough… Always been that way… Turn 7 isn’t bad. Sounds interesting. Looks like you guys had a really good time!
Oh Ya . New guy took pics. Loved the game. Carl is actually been very helpful by playing US and taking load off UK players having to play US and with playing already in game now ship aa and plane vs plane test this game.
Here are the values for pieces updated for next game. These numbers work pretty good now. The question is do we give a destroyer an aa shot at planes ? Of course most say no. But all ships had aa guns. Some better and some ships had more of them. Some were shot down but also when these guns were fired at planes it would divert some planes away from fear of being hit. But if you really look at the d6 games and most don’t agree with ships getting aa, is technically BB CR and DD are getting plane hits in all games but at attackers and defenders choice. So in other words planes are not being taken as casualties too with attacker and defenders choice until last couple rounds of combat. So look at what I’m doing in away is yes you get a low aa ship shot but it’s also forcing the defender to pick a plane casualty in the first round in combat and beyond instead of the last round or so of combat. So now we don’t have the dog fight 1 round before all combat neither.
Plus planes are attacking planes the same time.
So here are the values with the destroyer.
BB C15 AD@3 plane & AD@8 ship. Dam AD@2 plane & AD@6 ship
CR C9 M3 AD@3 plane & AD@7 ship.
DD C6 AD@1 plane & AD@3 ship.
Fig C10 M5 AD@2 plane & AD@5 gr/ship.
Tac C10 M5 AD@1 plane & AD@5. 3 or less pick.
N fig C10 M4 AD@2 plane & AD@4 gr/ship.
N Dive C10 M4 AD@1 plane & AD@5. 3 or less pick.
Stg. B C10 A4@3 1 round only. D@2. Can’t hit naval ships.
AC C14 D@3 plane only. Dam. D@2 plane only.
EC C8 D@2 plane only.
I edited my last post here above with adjustments for plane shots. Since I need to give a Destroyer some kind of
defense against planes when there on there own and not having to give ships boosts with this and that
will go with what I have. At least Planes can get killed in 1st round and beyond and with 1 ship blocking stops 3 ships from other side. So lets say you have 1 Destroyer and 1 Cruiser out blocking. Now if planes just come in to attack the 2 blockers in my game at least the CR DD get a plane shot defense.
Cruiser D@3 plane 25%
Destroyer D@1 plane 8% = 33%
2 N. Figs A@8. 66%
But then some say ships should get no plane shots period. Ya but in D6 games they are getting plane shots which are to high or strong.
Cruiser D@3 plane 50%
Destroyer D@2 plane 33% = 83%
2 Figs A@8 66%
After doing some testing with certain size fleets, the results are with BB CR AC getting plane shots @3, DD @1 you lose more planes in early rounds. But also you lose planes from no Carriers to land planes unless your the attacker and you have movement left and you control an island in same sea zone or one close by. Defending planes can retreat also after 1 round of combat and any carrier planes could land on an island they control in same sea zone. Plus if you attack a fleet next to an island with an airbase you can scramble 3 Figs or N. Figs or combination of both. Whats great is Tac and Dive bombers can hit on a 5 but a roll of 3 or less can pick target. Now it seems in testing the Air Craft Carriers are getting Targeted more due to having no place for carrier planes to land. Remember you can’t take a plane casualty on a ship only hit. Plus also a lot of planes were lost in war due to crashes, no fuel left. bad engines and so. So with ships getting plane hits its making the ships weaker compared to d6 system and now you lose planes in all battle rounds and to any other source of plane loses that happened in war.
If you keep Cruisers @3 plane shot and DD @1 plane shot at least they can defend against planes if there in small fleets.
Only thing left is how the outcomes are with @3 plane shots or @2 planes shots for BB CR and AC.
DD and Transports get a @1 plane shot but that is only 8% chance of a hit. You can’t just not give a lone Destroyer no defense against planes only. Same situation as lone transports. They had AA guns.
Granted if you had 10 Destroyers in a huge fleet ya there gonna get a plane kill or 2 maybe and they should.
12 Destroyers on average is 1 plane kill per round. D6 it be 12 Destroyers average 4 plane kills. But of course the Attacker defender chooses his casualties instead of you having to force them to pick a plane because there gonna take ships first.
At least its more historical the way I’m doing it in my game if you see what I mean.
It comes down to also do you give @3 for BB CR more punch when there a lone or now if you have 10 CR in a fleet is it over powering against planes. Plus by adding a DD @1 plane shot probably have to keep BB CR @2 plane shot and force you to have destroyers at all times like it was in war.
Another thing is you can’t land planes on an island unless it has an air strip or an airbase. Some my argue ya but you can land planes on land territories but not islands. You base it off of islands to small or due to bad terrian and also lack of equipment to
on island to build air strips.
Ive always liked the idea of buying a Minor IC and air and naval bases at Capitals only and then you could move them on transports to certain territories to build pieces and land planes and build repair naval units. There convoy ships too.
Yo Barnee, looks like I’m gonna go with a different values for ship AA and plane vs plane.
Going back to normal values for pieces with 1 dice roll only. But if any piece rolls a 1 outside of a Carrier gets a bonus plane kill.
BB AD@8. Roll a 1 receive the bonus plane hit plus ship hit. Thats it. Makes things easier for guys to remember and will speed up some battles.
Fig AD@5. Roll a 1 gets a bonus plane hit too plus a GR /SH/ or plane hit.
This will force the attacker or defender to at least have to take a plane casualty in early rounds. No dog fighting.
AC D@4 plane only.
@SS-GEN yea I like it. Simple and accomplishes the goal of more detailed air/naval battle. Good job
Barnee and Co.
Been testing these new piece values and it makes for an interesting casualty picks. WE made figs get a @2 instead of a @1 against bonus plane hit. So here’s the list and what will use next game in 9 days.
BB AD@8 if roll is a 1 get a AA plane kill too.
CR AD@7 if roll is a 1 get a AA plane kill too.
DD AD@3 if roll is a 1 get a AA plane kill too.
AC D@3 plane only Dam D@2 plane only.
Fig AD@5 if roll is a 2 or less get a DF plane kill too.
N. Fig AD@4 if roll is a 2 or less get a DF plane kill too.
Tac AD@5 if roll is a 1 get a DF plane kill too.
also if roll is a 3 or less can pick target.
Dive AD@5 if roll is a 1 get a DF plane kill too.
also if roll is a 3 or less can pick target.
Now will see if we need to adjust the Tac and Dive bomber values.
May need to go to AD@4 if roll is a 1 get a DF plane kill too.
also if roll is a 3 or less can pick target.
Here’s an example battle. To right of piece is what they get.
Attacker: Plane kill. Ship/plane kill.
BB rolls a @1. 1 hit 1 hit
CR rolls a @5. miss 1 hit
DD rolls a @2. miss 1 hit
AC rolls a @6. miss XXX
NF rolls a @2. 1 hit 1 hit
NDB rolls a @3. miss 1 pick
Defender: Plane kill. Ship/plane kill.
BB rolls a @8. miss 1 hit
CR rolls a @5. miss 1 hit
DD rolls a @12. miss miss
AC rolls a @3. 1 hit XXX
NF rolls a @4. miss 1 hit
NDB rolls a @2. miss 1 pick
So attacker gets 2 plane kills and 4 hits + 1 pick hit
Defender gets 1 plane kill and 3 hits + 1 pick hit.
You gettin this ?
BB AD@4. + AA d12 @1. Plane kill too
CR AD@3 + AA d12 @1. Plane kill too
DD AD@2. + AA.d12 @1. Plane kill too
Fig.AD@4. + DF. d12 @2. Plane kill too
Tac AD@3. + DF d12 @1 Plane kill too
So now just throw 1. d12 with each normal d6 attack or defend roll.
You could even make a d12 hit die for this.
Edited this but it wont give me a space between plane kill and ship/plane kill.
Ok. Show down at the Generals Fortress this Sat. Have 8 guys. I will sit out for a bit and help with a new guy until he has to leave then I’ll take over. Then may have to jump to axis side late afternoon.
Well Barnee we are going to see how the new tweaks work out.
On the list for maybe some tweaks.
Tac/Dive AD@5 down to @4.
BB AD@8 down to @7.
CR AD@7 down to @6.
And if that happens then Figs against navy only
That’s it. Let’s see what happens. Report Sunday with pics
OK. We got the game in and the Axis won in 9 turns. Moscow fell and then Stalingrad and Germany was able to get to the Mideast oil and Japan did enough to hold on for win.
It was probably are best game so far.
The new values or rules for ship AA and plane vs plane bonus plane kills worked out great. It was nice to see a plane get killed for each round of combat across the board.
Wasn’t over powering and it added some more spice to game.
The Axis got probably there best 2 NA’s for each country and it was gonna be a tough battle for the Allies. Axis had 30 points 3 times and Allies knocked it down to 29 points twice until T9 which at end of turn they had 30 points and won.
I don’t know if Russia made any mistakes due to the fact I was playing UK Pacific and we had to deal with 10 axis subs in the Atlantic and that went on for 6 rounds with still 1 Italian sub survived the whole game.
If you wanted to see the battle of thee Atlantic it was there in game again.
Italy went a lot towards Cairo and got it. due to the fact UK and US had to spend money more on Destroyers and a few Tacs to kill those German subs plus Germany had sub Interdiction on top of that and it was costing UK some money plus another 10 icps in convoy raiding costs per turn until Allies got it under control.
The key for Axis is to keep UK income low as long as possible so it delays a landing.
Allies did take Oslo for last ditch effort but couldn’t get another point back on the rest of map. Here’s some pics of game with the General’s hard at work.
This pic is of the German and Italian subs with Allies during the battle of the Atlantic.