Dutch naval units for ABDA possibilities?

[General 6 Stars]

I just read they had 4 cruisers 10 or so destroyers and 15 subs. But some of that got killed during the 1942 East Indies attack. Also the Dutch had decent tanks. They fought well in some islands. So I may add 1 tank to 2 islands and take away 1 inf.

Side note. Dutch had better guns on there boats small stuff but the Germans and UK copied them for U-Boats and Dest and such. The Dutch were ahead of there time.

[The Pripet Martian]

I don’t know about infantry, armor, cruisers or destroyers, but the Dutch should have at least one well-camouflaged minesweeper:

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=42015.0

:-D

[CWO Marc]

@The:

I don’t know about infantry, armor, cruisers or destroyers, but the Dutch should have at least one well-camouflaged minesweeper:

This would actually be a very economical unit to add because you wouldn’t even need to buy an HBG sculpt to depict it; you could simply say, “it’s on the map board, but it’s so well camouflaged that you can’t see it.”

[The Pripet Martian]

@CWO:

@The:

I don’t know about infantry, armor, cruisers or destroyers, but the Dutch should have at least one well-camouflaged minesweeper:

This would actually be a very economical unit to add because you wouldn’t even need to buy an HBG sculpt to depict it; you could simply say, “it’s on the map board, but it’s so well camouflaged that you can’t see it.”

I feel another house rule coming on…

[General 6 Stars]

@The:

I don’t know about infantry, armor, cruisers or destroyers, but the Dutch should have at least one well-camouflaged minesweeper:

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=42015.0

:-D

Yes they had a bunch of them. But not ready to put sea mines in game yet.  :-D

[MauserBob]

Wow…a lot of good input here.  :-) Thank you so much, guys.

Upon consideration, I think my initial setup will be a cruiser, destroyer, and sub off Java.

Having been persuaded to use some land units after all, I’m going with:

3 inf and 1 artillery on both Sumatra & Java.
2 inf on Celebes.
1 inf on Dutch New Guinea.

Reasonable, or maybe 1 inf too many on Sumatra and/or Java?

[Witt]

I think that is far too much; sorry.

[MauserBob]

@wittmann:

I think that is far too much; sorry.

Okay…I respect that. What if I remove the sub and both artillery, which, in hindsight are Kind of superfluous… leaving:

3 inf  on both Java & Sumatra
2 inf on Celebes
1 on Dutch New Guinea

…plus the cruiser & destroyer in SZ 42?

I’m not married to the idea of an inf on DNG…so if the above are still a bit too heavy, then maybe only  2 inf on Java & Sumatra, 1 inf on Celebes, and none on DNG. Better?

[General 6 Stars]

@MauserBob:

@wittmann:

I think that is far too much; sorry.

Okay…I respect that. What if I remove the sub and both artillery, which, in hindsight are Kind of superfluous… leaving:

3 inf  on both Java & Sumatra
2 inf on Celebes
1 on Dutch New Guinea

…plus the cruiser & destroyer in SZ 42?

I�m not married to the idea of an inf on DNG…so if the above are still a bit too heavy, then maybe only  2 inf on Java & Sumatra, 1 inf on Celebes, and none on DNG. Better?

Too much.

Sumatra - 1 Inf
Java - 1 Inf      1 Destroyer 1 Sub  sz
Celebes - 1 Inf

Borneo ? G40 got that UK/FEC controlled ? That part is wrong. Brunei was controlled by UK and Borneo was Dutch when Japan invaded right after Pearl Harbor.
Brunei and Borneo should be a 2 separate territory island.

Maybe try 2 Inf in Java and see if Anzac fighters land there and you can keep control of it. If you do bring over the Anzac AA gun to Java too.

You want to add a bit at a time and play test it or play a game or 2 and then maybe add an inf or 2. But if you put to much Dutch stuff down there then Japan will never get some islands and or Keep.

Just some thoughts.

[Witt]

Less is better , I believe. I do think Japan is far too powerful, so throwing in a few more Allied units to that theatre, is an attractive solution.

[MauserBob]

Sounds good. I think I’ll go with that.
Thank you all for the input.  :-)