Building Into Occupied Sea Zones

@Argothair:

You’re correct, and I apologize for the error, but my basic question stands: Britain starts with two Atlantic transports. Is there a way to reliably kill them both, take Normandy, take France, kill at least one of Britain’s two main fleets, and not lose 8+ German planes in the attempt, all on G1?

No, is the short answer, or at least you shouldn’t try.

Letting the SZ110 fleet escape might allow you to accomplish that but you’d rather sink that than tie up 4+ planes on sinking two ships.

Lots of good options for G1 builds, but here are my personal thoughts.  Two bombers can help Sea Lion in the following way:

Clean up residual ships on G2 to prevent ship blocks Bomb London on G2, doing ~9 points of additional damage to the factory which reduces the number of infantry built on UK2. Join in on the London raid on G3, contributing 8 more attack power (equivalent of 2 transports loaded with infantry + art) for approximately the same purchase cost Attack the Russian response on G4-G5; bomb Russian factories along the front. Attack the US Navy trying to liberate UK on G4-G10ish

Additionally the two bombers are quite useful to bomb Moscow and support a Barbarosa if Sea Lion is not an option.  It is not as optimal of a build of 6 art + 2 inf for marching into Russia, but still is very beneficial.

:-D

@klykke89 No, Southeast Mexico only touches sea zones on the Europe board, Mexico, and Central US. It follows the same intersection logic as Sea Zone 10.

From the 2nd edition FAQ:

Does sea zone 10 connect to sea zone 64?
A. No. The border between sea zones 10 and 11 should connect to the Pacific map edge at the
southern tip of Mexico. Sea zone 10 is adjacent only to Western United States, Mexico, and sea
zones 1, 9, 11, and 12.

Source: https://axisallies.com/rules/axis-allies-rules-europe1940-corrections-faqs.pdf

Seems very interesting Black_Elk.
It simplifies many things while allowing a lot of way to chose or not to repair and use a given Factory.
Less NO and more VC bonus seems to focus on the real objective of the game.
Nice.
Hope you can somehow add it inside the main thread on Halifax rules, maybe as a third options, or a sub-option of the second option.

Still taking india round 3 must be rough. defense 2 aa guns roughly 15+ guys. offense 21 air with 6 man drop. If he loses india he should get decent TUV kill and china should still be around for a little bit longer.

Plus it is a dead giveaway if all your warships are figs get put down there, which is why ya need your destroyer for a bit. Depending on how you position before you take the islands for your NO.

Jenn, don’t talk to me, you obviously didn’t read the last part of what I said.

Sea zone 6 and Manchuria are not adjacent.  See the FAQ.

@marechallannes:

Q1: A battleship enters a seazone with a hostile submarine. The sub submerges.

Following the rules, the sub emerges after the combat (that doesn’t take place)

Who controlls the seazone after the battleship owners turn?

Is the sub able to raid the convoy zone in that seazone, or is it impossible, cause the battleship owner “won” the battle and controls the sea zone?

Q2: Does the sub emerges before the collect income phase of the battleship owner and is it able to raid the sea-zone of the battleship-owner?

Q3: A submarine enters a seazone with a hostile submarine. Both sub submerges before any round of combat.

Are both submarines are able to make convoy raids? (For example a UK-sub and a Jap-sub in SZ 37)

1:  No power can “control” a seazone.  That’s why you don’t mark it.  The sub is able to raid, because it remains in the seazone during the collect income phase.  Powers occupy a seazone, and a seazone can be hostile, but it’s never really “controlled”.  A power can still place units in a seazone adjacent to its factory, regardless of how many enemy units might remain in that seazone (that may even be disrupting a convoy).
2:  Yes.
3: Yes,  assuming each is present during their respective enemy’s collect income phase (when the disruption occurs).

“Submerging” is simply a term for the option to retreat but remain in the same seazone.  It serves no other function, and it does not have any impact on any other phases of a turn.  After combat, all subs are effectively no longer submerged.

thanks for the responses.  I really appreciate it!