Innohub vs Wittmann 1942 2nd Edit

[Witt]

What drives me mad about this game and the 1st Edition is how easy it is too earn more money than the US by T3.
It is wrong. US should have 50. It can hardly make a difference in The game if Germany and Japan are played well.
What can they buy with 38? Honestly?

[innohub]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.8

Game History

Round: 4

Research Technology - Russians

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 2 artilleries and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to Karelia S.S.R.
            2 artilleries moved from Archangel to Karelia S.S.R.
            3 infantry moved from Archangel to Karelia S.S.R.
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Karelia S.S.R.
            2 armour moved from Archangel to West Russia
            1 armour moved from Russia to Karelia S.S.R.
            4 infantry moved from Russia to West Russia
            1 infantry moved from Persia to Kazakh S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Kazakh S.S.R.

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Karelia S.S.R.
                Russians attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 3 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory and 6 infantry
                Russians win, taking Karelia S.S.R. from Germans with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 19
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 6 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in West Russia
                Russians attack with 2 armour and 4 infantry
                Germans defend with 2 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Russians win, taking West Russia from Germans with 2 armour and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                Casualties for Germans: 2 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
            Battle in Kazakh S.S.R.
                Russians attack with 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Russians win, taking Kazakh S.S.R. from Japanese with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 fighter moved from Karelia S.S.R. to 6 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Persia to Trans-Jordan
            1 fighter moved from Karelia S.S.R. to West Russia
            1 fighter moved from West Russia to Caucasus

Place Units - Russians
            2 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in Russia
            Russians undo move 1.
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in Russia
            3 infantry placed in Caucasus
            Russians undo move 2.
            2 infantry placed in Caucasus
            1 infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 24 PUs; end with 25 PUs total

[Witt]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.8

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 bomber and 4 fighters moved from France to 6 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Poland to 6 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 transport moved from 14 Sea Zone to 15 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Italy to 15 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Italy to 15 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 15 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 17 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
            1 infantry moved from 17 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
            1 artillery moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Trans-Jordan
                Germans attack with 2 artilleries and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 aaGun; British defend with 2 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                British win with 2 armour and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Germans: 2 artilleries and 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 aaGun
            Battle in 6 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 bombers and 4 fighters
                Russians defend with 1 fighter and 1 submarine; British defend with 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 transport
                1 submarine owned by the Russians Submerged
                Germans win with 2 bombers and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 27
                Casualties for Germans: 3 fighters
                Casualties for Russians: 1 fighter
                Casualties for British: 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 transport

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to France
            1 bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Germany
            1 bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Germany
            4 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Germany to Baltic States
            1 armour moved from Germany to Poland
            1 infantry moved from Italy to Southern Europe
            1 carrier moved from 14 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Morocco to Libya
            1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 aaGun moved from Belorussia to Baltic States
            1 aaGun moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Poland

Place Units - Germans
            1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Italy
            2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs total

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.8

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 carrier and 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 4 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to Libya
                  British take Egypt from Germans

Combat - British
            Battle in Libya
                British attack with 1 armour
                Germans defend with 1 armour
                Germans win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour
                Casualties for British: 1 armour
            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                British attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                British win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to Caucasus
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to West Russia

Place Units - British
            1 carrier placed in 8 Sea Zone
            1 fighter placed in 8 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 29 PUs; end with 33 PUs total

[Witt]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.8

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 3 armour, 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            3 destroyers and 2 fighters moved from 62 Sea Zone to 64 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 63 Sea Zone to 64 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Kwangtung to 64 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to 64 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Sinkiang to Kazakh S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Sinkiang to Kazakh S.S.R.
            1 armour moved from Sinkiang to Novosibirsk
                  Japanese take Novosibirsk from Russians
            1 armour moved from Novosibirsk to Vologda
                  Japanese take Vologda from Russians
            1 armour moved from Manchuria to Soviet Far East
                  Japanese take Soviet Far East from Russians
            1 artillery moved from India to 35 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from India to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 34 Sea Zone to Egypt
                  Japanese take Egypt from British
            1 infantry moved from India to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from India to Persia
                  Japanese take Persia from British
            1 artillery moved from India to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 33 Sea Zone to Rhodesia
                  Japanese take Rhodesia from British
            1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Rhodesia
            1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to India
            1 fighter moved from India to Kazakh S.S.R.
            1 armour moved from India to Kazakh S.S.R.

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Kazakh S.S.R.
                Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Kazakh S.S.R. from Russians with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in 64 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 3 destroyers, 3 fighters and 1 submarine
                Americans defend with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 transports
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans
                Japanese win with 1 bomber, 2 destroyers and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 60
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                Casualties for Americans: 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 transports

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 carrier moved from 62 Sea Zone to 64 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 64 Sea Zone to Buryatia S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 62 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Japan to 62 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 48 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 48 Sea Zone to Philippine Islands
            1 artillery moved from 48 Sea Zone to Philippine Islands
            1 artillery moved from Manchuria to Anhwei
            1 fighter moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Szechwan
            1 armour moved from Manchuria to Szechwan
            1 fighter moved from French Indo-China Thailand to India
            1 battleship moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 48 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from 64 Sea Zone to Buryatia S.S.R.

Place Units - Japanese
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 60 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in India
            2 armour and 1 infantry placed in Manchuria

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 50 PUs; end with 50 PUs total

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.8

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 bombers and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 8 PUs;

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 artillery moved from Western United States to 56 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 56 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 8 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Eastern United States to Eastern Canada

Place Units - Americans
            2 bombers placed in Alaska
            1 transport placed in 11 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 38 PUs; end with 46 PUs total

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.8

Game History

Round: 5

Research Technology - Russians

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 artillery and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 artillery moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda
            2 artilleries moved from Russia to Kazakh S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Novosibirsk
                  Russians take Novosibirsk from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Kazakh S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Persia
            1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Kazakh S.S.R.
            2 armour moved from West Russia to Kazakh S.S.R.
            1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Persia
            1 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Finland
                  Russians take Finland from Germans
            1 armour moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Vologda

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Vologda
                Russians attack with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 armour
                Japanese win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour and 1 infantry
            Battle in Persia
                Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery
                Russians win, taking Persia from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery
            Battle in Kazakh S.S.R.
                Russians attack with 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Russians win, taking Kazakh S.S.R. from Japanese with 2 armour and 2 artilleries remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Battle in Belorussia
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 artillery moved from Karelia S.S.R. to West Russia
            1 fighter moved from Persia to West Russia

Place Units - Russians
            2 infantry placed in Caucasus
            1 infantry placed in Karelia S.S.R.
            1 artillery placed in Caucasus
            Russians undo move 3.
            2 infantry placed in Caucasus
            Russians undo move 3.
            1 infantry placed in Caucasus
            Russians undo move 3.
            1 artillery and 4 infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 22 PUs; end with 22 PUs total

[innohub]

I think I am close to a lose : -)… Losing all those remaining US boats were a big hit…

[Witt]

I agree.
Please set up another if you wish.

[innohub]

Sure let me finish this round of US and start another one.  Thanks for playing with me.  You are great with Axis! :evil:

[Witt]

Thank you.
You were unlucky, but as the Axis I think you need to keep up the pressure and slowly you will see your income surpass the Allies.
As the Allies, I thought you had a good strategy, trying to keep Russia in it, but the monster to be neutered is Japan. You have to find a way to keep India and to hurt them.
I am not sure I could do well either against a determined opponent.
The Bid may be necessary, unfortunately.
Also , I think the Jap fleet off Borneo(I think) should be attacked on UK1. It is too much of an opportunity to miss.
Try it this time, or have you found that does not help.

[innohub]

Thanks for the advice and suggestion.  I think I learned some lessons in this game:

1. US needs to have platform to provide support.  One mistake I made is forgot to block the attack route of the Japanese fleet (by making sure there is a unit blocking that sea zone near the Far Russia so all the productions (and transports) were gone after the attack.

2. Africa seems pretty hard to defend if Germany decided to take it. I was lucky at round 1 where both of my transports were alive after G1 attack.    But with the Germany transport alive it’s hard to keep up.

3. The biggest challenge to me in this game is I find it hard to balance between India and British mainland. I need to think how to resolve it.

4. You are right.  I tried too many places and stretch thin

5.  Your Japan was really aggressive.  I was surprised how many lands you took at R1 - that didn’t happen when playing with my friend before.  Good to see! :)

I still like to try a few more games without bid  (hope you don’t mind).  Just to see how Allies can be stretched. :-D  I haven’t tried the attack route you mentioned.  I will give this a shot when condition comes…

Cheers,