XDAP-2: Onward! Defrosted Tuna Team vs Death by Dice


  • leave uk/anzac alone then


  • @ghr2:

    leave uk/anzac alone then

    will a blockade be acceptable? If so, we have a deal.


  • @ghr2:

    leave uk/anzac alone then

    I will sign a peace treaty with each if the american fleet pulls out and stays out.

  • '20 '18 '16 '13 '12

    This is going to be a fun one…

  • Customizer

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3 Final, version: 3.3

    Game History

    Round :3

    Purchase Units - Italians
                Italians buy 2 destroyers; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;

    Combat Move - Italians
                1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 98 Sea Zone
                1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tunisia to Morocco
                1 artillery moved from Algeria to Morocco

    Combat - Italians
                Battle in Morocco
                    Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry
                    French defend with 1 infantry
                        Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry in Morocco, round 1 :  0/3 hits
                        French roll dice for 1 infantry in Morocco, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                        Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry in Morocco, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                        French roll dice for 1 infantry in Morocco, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                        1 infantry owned by the French lost in Morocco
                    Italians win, taking Morocco from French with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                    Casualties for French: 1 infantry
                Battle in 98 Sea Zone
                    Italians attack with 1 bomber and 1 fighter
                    French defend with 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers; British defend with 3 submarines
                    3 submarines owned by the British Submerged
                        Italians roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 fighter in 98 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                        French roll dice for 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers in 98 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/3 hits
                        1 destroyer owned by the French lost in 98 Sea Zone
                        Italians roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 fighter in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 :  2/2 hits
                        French roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 :  2/2 hits
                        1 cruiser owned by the French , 1 fighter owned by the Italians , 1 destroyer owned by the French and 1 bomber owned by the Italians lost in 98 Sea Zone
                    French win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                    Casualties for French: 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers
                    Casualties for Italians: 1 bomber and 1 fighter

    Non Combat Move - Italians
                1 armour moved from Romania to Bessarabia
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
                2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia

    Place Units - Italians
                2 destroyers placed in 97 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Italians
                Italians collect 16 PUs; end with 19 PUs total
                Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 24 PUs

    Territory Summary for Italians :

    Morocco : 1 flag, 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry
        Algeria : 1 flag
        Tunisia : 1 flag
        Romania : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        Northern Italy : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns and 1 factory_major
        Libya : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
        Southern Italy : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 3 infantry
        Bessarabia : 1 flag, 2 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        Greece : 1 flag
        97 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 2 destroyers
        Yugoslavia : 1 flag, 2 infantry

    Production/PUs Summary :

    Germans : 44 / 58
        Russians : 39 / 47
        Japanese : 58 / 66
        Americans : 52 / 77
        Chinese : 6 / 7
        British : 29 / 34
        UK_Pacific : 6 / 6
        Italians : 16 / 24
        ANZAC : 10 / 19
        French : 5 / 0
        Dutch : 0 / 0
        Mongolians : 0 / 0
        Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
        Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
        Neutral_True : 18 / 0

    Dice Statistics:

    Total
                1 was rolled 1 times
                2 was rolled 3 times
                3 was rolled 2 times
                4 was rolled 3 times
                5 was rolled 5 times
                6 was rolled 3 times
            Average roll : 4.000
            Median : 4.000
            Variance : 0.812
            Standard Deviation : 0.901
            Total rolls : 17

    French Combat
                1 was rolled 1 times
                2 was rolled 1 times
                3 was rolled 1 times
                4 was rolled 1 times
                5 was rolled 1 times
                6 was rolled 2 times
            Average roll : 3.857
            Median : 4.000
            Variance : 0.167
            Standard Deviation : 0.408
            Total rolls : 7

    Italians Combat
                2 was rolled 2 times
                3 was rolled 1 times
                4 was rolled 2 times
                5 was rolled 4 times
                6 was rolled 1 times
            Average roll : 4.100
            Median : 4.500
            Variance : 1.333
            Standard Deviation : 1.155
            Total rolls : 10


  • well, at least italy is losing stuff.


  • @ghr2:

    well, at least italy is losing stuff.

    still winning under 50% battles

    who attacks 2dd 1cr with 1fig 1bmb?

  • '20 '18 '16 '13 '12

    @Noll:

    who attacks 2dd 1cr with 1fig 1bmb?

    A fcucking brilliant strategist who knows when to take a chance. That’s who!

    Nice work Holy.


  • :-D

    @Canuck12:

    @Noll:

    who attacks 2dd 1cr with 1fig 1bmb?

    A fcucking brilliant strategist who knows when to take a chance. That’s who!

    Nice work Holy.

  • Customizer

    I don’t giv a shit about odds. That French fleet was a nightmare last game and now it’s gone. Beaut!

  • '20 '18 '16 '13 '12

    Plus, technically it ended in a draw and the French still scored a better average roll.

    I would hate to see what you guys would have said if it was won without casualties!


  • I wouldn’t be complaining about dice if it was an isolated case.

    Remember you gained an 80 TUV change out of pure luck.

    While GHR2 had luck in a battle against Germany, it was a 90% battle where he got less casualities than what he should have.

    As USA, I lost 4fighters, 1tac.bombers and 3bombers, they hitted 3times round1, 0times round2, and you killed everything, and lost 1dd 1tac.bmb. That’s gamebreaking.
    Then a single DD kills a bombers, and don’t even get killed by it (-12).

    Then you attack 2dd 1cr (2@2 1@3 - 3hits) with 1fig 1bmb (1@3 1@4 - 2hits), with a winning chance of 11.5%, you also had the guts to say that the french fleet rolled above average while you sunk it? Huh…

    http://www.dskelly.com/misc/aa/aasim.html?&rules=1940&battleType=sea&attFighter=1&attBomber=1&defDestroyer=2&defCruiser=1

    At least, due to sheer luck you’re getting, you could either admit or ignore it, but writing bullshits statements like the last one you did, is not going to make this game enjoyable for us, like it already wasn’t. The effect is that this will be a very slow game and I’ll take my time for playing each turn.


  • No question my friend, Japan has been extremely lucky!!


  • @JWW:

    No question my friend, Japan has been extremely lucky!!

    can i request that you continue helping Japan out?


  • i’ve played soooo many games. sometimes “dice” really suck.

  • '20 '18 '16 '13 '12

    @Noll:

    Then you attack 2dd 1cr (2@2 1@3 - 3hits) with 1fig 1bmb (1@3 1@4 - 2hits), with a winning chance of 11.5%, you also had the guts to say that the french fleet rolled above average while you sunk it? Huh…

    Perhaps you would be less upset Noll if you learned to use your own dice calculator.

    The aforementioned battle is 11.5% chance of a DRAW. with a 22.7% chance of a WIN.

    Which means 1 out of 3 times Italy destroys All of the French fleet and almost 1 in 4 times they have a bomber OR MORE left over. It’s not that bad.

    No one can change the dice. They will go back and fourth all game. We have been lucky on some key battles, unlucky on others, that’s the way the game is played: Welcome to Axis and Allies.


  • we had a DRAW. 11%

  • Customizer

    11% means it is possible. I get diced all the time. I’m playing Italy FFS! I’m NEVER going to be rolling big handfuls of dice, thus I’m always going to be fighting low odds fights where dice will be crucial. When Germany comes into Moscow and there are 100+ dice involved then you can look at the odds of winning and say go or no go? Dice fucked or not dice fucked. 2-3 dice per side and you’re looking at odds? If I waited for good odds as Italy I’d be waiting for the invasion of Rome and buying infantry the whole game. I can’t get my shit in gear until the waters are clear. And the odds would be a shit ton worse if I waited for the Uk to get more navy in there now wouldn’t I? My small dice will bite me in the ass in time don’t worry.


  • Most Holy, you are a good guy. As I said, the dice might be the cause, but I’m not complaining because of them. An opponent getting so lucky could avoid stating bullshits, and I’m talking Canuck, not you nor your other ally.

    As I am playing this torunament to enjoy the game, and I get senteces like “Perhaps you would be less upset Noll if you learned to use your own dice calculator.”

    Or: "the French still scored a better average roll. "

    Or check the first pages of this game.

  • '20 '18 '16 '13 '12

    Well if I’m the only one who’s a dick that’s fine by me. I’m done talking about it.

    Lets just play and have some fun.

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