ArtofWar (allies) V 666 P2V

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@ArtofWar1947 can’t take rostov to save Hitler’s life…

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The Russian units there, especially the one just lost, will forever be the Russian’s people’s hearts.

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@ArtofWar1947 I am holding my own against Adam, as the allies, I wonder how many axis victories there are, the deck seems stacked against the axis in this game.

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@666

Wow, staying even with Adam, that’s impressive. I can see the new rules help the Axis in possibly a couple of instances. However, my overall impression is consistent with yours: The Axis has the deck stacked against it.

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@ArtofWar1947 said in ArtofWar (allies) V 666 P2V:

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Wow, staying even with Adam, that’s impressive. I can see the new rules help the Axis in possibly a couple of instances. However, my overall impression is consistent with yours: The Axis has the deck stacked against it.

well he has taken all of Australia but he is probably just toying with me because I agreed to play him. I think we are around turn 10, 11, taking 9 VC in the Pacific is a lot, especially if you can stop the euro axis, or slow them down considerably. I think we are making nearly the same amount of IPC’s and maybe even in TUV…but I think Germany and ITA are stopped cold. just have to hold HAW & IND and wear him down.

Maybe I am blind too.

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9 VCs in the Pacific seems an insurmountable task to me. It was hard enough getting whatever it was.

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@ArtofWar1947 said in ArtofWar (allies) V 666 P2V:

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9 VCs in the Pacific seems an insurmountable task to me. It was hard enough getting whatever it was.

yeah, I am wondering if this version will take off, speaking to another player, this version takes even more thought and planning, which I like and hate at the same time, the other player, ksmcky, said it was just too much, took too much time, maybe he is right, I like the differences in the map here…

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@666

I agree on the amount of thought required and new map. Overall, though, I like this PTV better than BM3 if playing the Allies or if the rules handicapping the Axis can be eased.

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@ArtofWar1947 said in ArtofWar (allies) V 666 P2V:

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I agree on the amount of thought required and new map. Overall, though, I like this PTV better than BM3 if playing the Allies or if the rules handicapping the Axis can be eased.

I remember a very old v version of A&A required an axis bid, maybe we are going there with this? anyway, proceed with the ass kicking. My turn with the allies are next.

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To our earlier point of requiring more thought, I need to think on the R-7 turn and may not get to it until tomorrow morning.

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@ArtofWar1947 no worries

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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 7

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 7

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 2 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Buryatia
              Russians take Buryatia from Japanese
        1 submarine moved from 99 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Komi to Kirov
              Russians take Kirov from Germans
        1 infantry moved from Gorky to Nenetsia
              Russians take Nenetsia from Germans
        1 infantry moved from Yaroslavl to Smolensk
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Smolensk
        2 fighters moved from Kursk to Smolensk

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Smolensk
            Russians attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 2 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Smolensk, round 2 : 5/7 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Smolensk
            Russians win, taking Smolensk from Germans with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Rostov
        1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Stalingrad
        1 infantry moved from Urals to Kazakhstan
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Urals to Yenisey
        2 aaGuns and 11 infantry moved from Korea to Northern Manchuria
        1 armour, 5 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
        2 armour, 4 artilleries and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Tambov to Kursk
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Kursk
        3 fighters moved from Smolensk to Russia
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Smolensk to Kursk

    Place Units - Russians
        1 infantry placed in Urals
        2 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Russia
        Russians undo move 1.
        1 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,3,5,6,6,6
        Russians collect 28 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 28 PUs
        Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 31 PUs
        Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 33 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Bryansk: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Samara: 1 artillery
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Russia: 2 artilleries and 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Kursk: 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Bryansk: 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Bryansk: 1 artillery
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Russia: 1 artillery
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Stalingrad: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Samara: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 0.33
Russians regular : 2.00

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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Japanese round 7

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 7

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 armour, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 8 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
        2 artilleries moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone
        3 marines moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Guam to 22 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 22 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 33 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 34 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        2 cruisers and 2 marines moved from 35 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        4 carriers and 1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        3 artilleries, 5 infantry and 3 marines moved from 24 Sea Zone to Wake Island
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to Wake Island
        1 destroyer moved from 7 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to Wake Island
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Wake Island
        3 fighters moved from Caroline Islands to 24 Sea Zone
        3 tactical_bombers moved from Caroline Islands to 24 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 35 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from New Britain to 47 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 47 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 50 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands
        1 infantry moved from Hunan to Kiangsi
        2 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
        1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Shan State
        1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Kiangsi
        1 fighter moved from Caroline Islands to 24 Sea Zone

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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@ArtofWar1947 scramble, I know you have a few options here

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@666
Scramble 1 fighter from Wake to SZ 24. I assume this will stop the bombardment.

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@ArtofWar1947 said in ArtofWar (allies) V 666 P2V:

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Scramble 1 fighter from Wake to SZ 24. I assume this will stop the bombardment.

yes, it will

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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 7

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 7

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 armour, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 8 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
        2 artilleries moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone
        3 marines moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Guam to 22 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 22 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        1 battleship and 1 marine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 33 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 34 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        2 cruisers and 2 marines moved from 35 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        4 carriers and 1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        3 artilleries, 5 infantry and 3 marines moved from 24 Sea Zone to Wake Island
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to Wake Island
        1 destroyer moved from 7 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to Wake Island
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Wake Island
        3 fighters moved from Caroline Islands to 24 Sea Zone
        3 tactical_bombers moved from Caroline Islands to 24 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 35 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from New Britain to 47 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 47 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 50 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands
        1 infantry moved from Hunan to Kiangsi
        2 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
        1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Shan State
        1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Kiangsi
        1 fighter moved from Caroline Islands to 24 Sea Zone

    Combat - Japanese
        Americans scrambles 1 units out of Wake Island to defend against the attack in 24 Sea Zone
        Americans scrambles to create a battle in territory 24 Sea Zone
        Battle in Korea
        Battle in Solomon Islands
        Battle in 24 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 2 battleships, 5 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 6 fighters, 3 tactical_bombers and 4 transports
            Americans defend with 1 fighter
                Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 5 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 6 fighters, 3 tactical_bombers and 4 transports in 24 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/16 hits, 8.50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 fighter in 24 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in 24 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking Korea from Russians, taking Solomon Islands from ANZAC with 2 battleships, 5 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 6 fighters, 3 tactical_bombers and 4 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
            Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter
        Battle in Wake Island
            Japanese attack with 3 artilleries, 5 fighters, 5 infantry, 3 marines and 5 tactical_bombers
            Americans defend with 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 1 harbour, 4 infantry and 2 marines
                Japanese roll dice for 3 artilleries, 5 fighters, 5 infantry, 3 marines and 5 tactical_bombers in Wake Island, round 2 : 10/21 hits, 9.17 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 2 marines in Wake Island, round 2 : 3/10 hits, 4.00 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Japanese, 4 infantry owned by the Americans, 2 fighters owned by the Americans, 2 marines owned by the Americans and 2 artilleries owned by the Americans lost in Wake Island
            Japanese win, taking Wake Island from Americans with 3 artilleries, 5 fighters, 2 infantry, 3 marines and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 41
            Casualties for Japanese: 3 infantry
            Casualties for Americans: 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 2 marines
        Battle in Kiangsi
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
            Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Kiangsi, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kiangsi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kiangsi
            Japanese win, taking Kiangsi from Chinese with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Shan State
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
            British defend with 1 artillery
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 artillery in Shan State, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the British lost in Shan State
            Japanese win, taking Shan State from UK_Pacific with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for British: 1 artillery

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 aaGun, 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China
        2 infantry moved from Davao to 36 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to French Indo China
        1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Kwangsi
        1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Kweichow
        1 aaGun and 3 artilleries moved from Hunan to Kwangtung
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to French Indo China
        1 fighter moved from Japan to 37 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Kiangsi to French Indo China
        1 bomber moved from Shan State to French Indo China
        1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 22 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        2 submarines moved from 35 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 47 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        3 fighters moved from 24 Sea Zone to Japan
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 24 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Siberia to Amur
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 24 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Wake Island to 24 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 transports placed in 7 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 2 infantry placed in French Indo China
        6 infantry placed in Japan

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 50 PUs; end with 50 PUs
        Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 53 PUs
        Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 58 PUs
        Objective Japanese 2 Strategic Defense Perimeter: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0.33
Americans regular : -1.67
Japanese regular : -1.17
UK_Pacific regular : -0.33

Territory Summary for Japanese :

Siberia : 1 flag
Soviet Far East : 1 flag
Sakha : 1 flag, 1 infantry
Amur : 1 flag, 1 infantry
Korea : 2 infantry
Siam : 1 airfield
Caroline Islands : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 2 fighters, 1 harbour, 8 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
Japan : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 3 fighters, 1 harbour and 8 infantry
Kwangsi : 1 flag, 1 infantry
Fukien : 1 flag
Davao : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 harbour
Manilla : 1 flag
Guam : 1 flag, 1 airfield
Wake Island : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 3 artilleries, 1 harbour, 2 infantry and 3 marines
Kweichow : 1 flag, 1 infantry
Kiangsi : 1 flag, 1 infantry
Hunan : 1 flag
Kwangtung : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 1 harbour
Szechwan : 1 flag
Shan State : 1 flag, 2 infantry
Malaya : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
Borneo : 1 flag
Solomon Islands : 1 flag, 1 infantry
New Guinea : 1 flag
New Britain : 1 flag
French Indo China : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 2 armour, 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 factory_minor, 2 fighters, 13 infantry, 2 marines and 1 mech_infantry
Sumatra : 1 flag
Java : 1 flag
7 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports
5 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
34 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
50 Sea Zone : 1 transport
24 Sea Zone : 2 battleships, 5 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 5 fighters, 3 submarines, 5 tactical_bombers and 4 transports
Dutch New Guinea : 1 flag
37 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 transport
Celebes : 1 flag
6 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer and 1 transport

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 56 / 67
Russians : 28 / 33
Japanese : 50 / 63
Americans : 50 / 75
Chinese : 21 / 21
British : 42 / 54
UK_Pacific : 7 / 11
Italians : 11 / 10
ANZAC : 10 / 13
French : 3 / 0
Dutch : 0 / 0
Mongolians : 0 / 0
Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
Neutral_True : 20 / 0

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On the Chinese-7 turn, neither non-Axis-occupied, non-coastal territory (Hunan and Szechwan) were occupied. Hunan spawned a Chinese infantry at the beginning of the CM but Szechwan did not. Is this program bug or is there is hidden rule that exempts Szechwan?