XDAP2 PIT FIGHT GARL (Allies + 28) vs LA ARMADA INVENCIBLE (Axis)

[Karl7]

Success!  I made it to the cabin!  And we have Wifi!

I’ll try to make a move soon.

[JuanSpain]

Jejeje KILL KILL KILL everywhere!!

[JuanSpain]

Reviewing NCM, hold on pls.

[JuanSpain]

Only 1 item. We prefer not placing the carrier in 6. What is the rule? we save the money or the carrier for next turn? Please edit accordingly and carry on Karl.

Thx

[Karl7]

@JuanSpain:

Only 1 item. We prefer not placing the carrier in 6. What is the rule? we save the money or the carrier for next turn? Please edit accordingly and carry on Karl.

Thx

If you bought something and then conduct combat, then the purchase is “locked.”  You can’t rebuy after you fight. Otherwise, people could change their buy based on the outcome of the rolls, i.e. this battle went well so I don’t need X– is not allowed.

Make sense?

[Gargantua]

Fair question to ask Juan - and rulebook is clear.  You do have to place everything you buy.

I have seen it many a time where people buy a complex or transports and then lose an important battle that puts those items at risk…  Part of Axis and Allies is having to purchase before you roll dice!

Exciting game!

I too wonder where the Moscow stack will go!! :)

Nothing is certain in this game!

Karl has sent me his planned move but I am 12 hours away from being able to view it.  Thank you for patience.

[JuanSpain]

Ok, I thought it was an option but it is only when you cannot place all. If you can, you should. In this case it is not related to dice, just a bad planning.

Ok, what we will do is launch a LL reroll in 16. If we save the fighter it will make things a little easier for us. I will just roll your defense and then we will review NCM.

[JuanSpain]

Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (3)

[JuanSpain]

Ok, Karl, please add a Japan fighter in Tokyo and continue.

How are we on reroll tokens? we both used 1?

Enjoy your great locations gentlemen!

[Karl7]

@JuanSpain:

Ok, Karl, please add a Japan fighter in Tokyo and continue.

How are we on reroll tokens? we both used 1?

Enjoy your great locations gentlemen!

Yes, we;'ve both used 1.

[Karl7]

Move within an hour or so.  Will need scram/kamikaze options etc.

Stand by!

[Karl7]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 3 fighters, 4 infantry, 2 submarines and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Politics - Americans
            Americans takes Political Action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals
                Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for British and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
                Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
                Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
                Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Dutch and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
                Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
                Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for French and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
                Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
                Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Germans from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
                Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Italians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
                Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Japanese from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
                Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Neutral_Axis from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral

Combat Move - Americans
            1 battleship, 2 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 54 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 54 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 armour, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 4 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 transports moved from 54 Sea Zone to 66 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 66 Sea Zone to Chile
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Spain
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Southeast Mexico to 89 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 89 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Spain
            1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Southeast Mexico to 89 Sea Zone
            2 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 transports moved from 89 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            2 bombers moved from United Kingdom to Spain
            1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to Spain
            1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to Spain
            1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
            1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone

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[Karl7]

Scram etc.

[rubioton]

Ok Sir,

Scramble all and 6 kamis over the Battleship, and if you achieve making Filipinas we will use a Low Luck reroll token for that Battle.

OOL four hits in the first round (4 carriers), four hits on the second round (4 carriers), and then CR, CR, Cruiser, TB, TB, TB, Dd.

Very close Gentlemen, good luck.

[Gargantua]

hmm…  I did not consider the -forced- LL situation. or the LL use of kamikazes.

Very dirty trick! Calling for LL before hand hahaha!

[Gargantua]

Yeah, I can say I REALLY don’t like the use of rerolls as a forced “game mechanic” being used as an integrated part of the strategy.

Rerolls in the face of a bad or lopsided battle for fun is one thing, but this is something we did not consider.

Leads me to wonder that because Kamikazes are rolled seperately, that they would be a seperate reroll.

Don’t know what your thoughts are Karl.

[Gargantua]

I looked at the rulebook.

http://www.axisandallies.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Axis-Allies-Pacific-1940-Second-Edition.pdf
Page 16

“Kamikaze strikes are resolved before any combat begins”

It is viewed as a seperate entity.  Like if you strategically bombed a territory you were also attacking. and is listed in the same phase as Strategic Bombing.

Let’s see what the dice bring, the point may be moot, but i do believe the kamikes and the  battle are two seperated events.

[rubioton]

Ok Sir,

I said about reroll in the previous post and I didn’t, we have to see what happens first.

Full scramble and six kami over the Battleship. Max defense keeping the Dd till the end.

Cheers

[rubioton]

This is just a game and we wanted to have fun playing it.

[Karl7]

Well, by my count we have pretty high odds on winning, so not sure why you’d want to use a re-roll on that battle. In fact, I was worrying we’d have to use one!  :lol:

But given this is an important battle, I am sure if you use a reroll and it stops the taking of phi, then we’d counter with another reroll.    :evil:

I think Garg is right on the Kamikaze being a separate battle. Honestly, I’ve never used a re-roll in a multi-part combat, it’s an issue that never came up.  :-P