XDAP2 PIT FIGHT GARL (Allies + 28) vs LA ARMADA INVENCIBLE (Axis)

[JuanSpain]

KILL KILL KILL Gentlemen!!

Have fun and good luck.

This will be a memorable one…

GARL takes:

1 sub off EGY with navy
1 sub off GIB with cruiser
1 fgt Moscow
1 inf Yunnan
1 inf Schezwan

G1 incoming tonight for scramble orders

[Karl7]

:evil:

[Gargantua]

Looking fwd to this!

[JuanSpain]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 5 artilleries and 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Politics - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 91 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 98 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Russia: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Yunnan: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Szechwan: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Move - Germans
            1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Norway to 111 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
            2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            2 artilleries moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
            6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
            3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
            3 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France

triplea_38084_Ger1.tsvg

[JuanSpain]

RAF is brave??

[Gargantua]

Scramble Sz111!

[Gargantua]

No scramble to Sz 110 obviously.

[Karl7]

RAF…

KILLS!

[JuanSpain]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 5 artilleries and 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Politics - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 91 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 98 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Russia: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Yunnan: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Szechwan: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Move - Germans
            1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Norway to 111 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
            2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            2 artilleries moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
            6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
            3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
            3 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France

Combat - Germans
            British scrambles 1 units out of Scotland to defend against the attack in 111 Sea Zone
            Battle in 106 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 submarines
                British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Germans win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Neutral with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers
                French defend with 1 cruiser; British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                Germans win with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 38
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for French: 1 cruiser
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
            Battle in 111 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                Germans win with 1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
            Battle in Yugoslavia
                Germans attack with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 8 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry
                Germans win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 7 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 5 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in France
                Germans attack with 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 7 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys
                French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry; British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery
                Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital
                Germans converts factory_major into different units
                Germans win, taking France from French with 6 armour, 3 artilleries and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 24
                Casualties for Germans: 7 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery
            Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Tobruk
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
                  Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 cruiser moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
                  Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis
            1 bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            3 aaGuns moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            2 infantry moved from Denmark to Western Germany
            2 artilleries moved from Germany to Poland
            3 aaGuns moved from Germany to Poland
            10 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium

Place Units - Germans
            1 fighter placed in Western Germany
            5 artilleries placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 39 PUs; end with 58 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs

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[Karl7]

Perfect round!

[JuanSpain]

On sea, your brave RAF did not miss the 50% chance to kill 1 of our planes, but we saved 1 more sub than average as a very good compensation for it.

And near average on land was good for our plans too.

Not bad start at all, yes! Germany just needs around average to make it perfect on G1.

This reminds me, that we can agree on low luck rerolls if you wish, we did not speak about them prior to starting, so no problem if you don´t like playing with them.

I definatelly prefer normal dice, as a low luck game is a different game, but I am happy to consider limited number of rerolls to correct extreme situations and add more points to the best strategy winning.

Cheers

[Gargantua]

I prefer normal dice, and I am in favour of say 3 rerolls a side over the course of the entire game?

Juan - can you explain how you like to see rerolls work?  Just full battle reroll?

[Karl7]

@Gargantua:

I prefer normal dice, and I am in favour of say 3 rerolls a side over the course of the entire game?

Juan - can you explain how you like to see rerolls work?  Just full battle reroll?

normal dice.  I could do 3 rerolls a side.

[Gargantua]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 armour, 1 fighter and 5 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Politics - Russians
            Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Russians from Neutrality to War
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Chinese from Neutrality to Allied
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
                Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied

Combat Move - Russians
            6 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
            6 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Sikang
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Russia
            1 cruiser moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Kazakhstan
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
            1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus
            2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
            3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
            3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus
            1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Kazakhstan
            2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
            1 armour moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine

Combat - Russians

Non Combat Move - Russians
            2 aaGuns moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            2 aaGuns moved from Russia to Bryansk
            2 aaGuns moved from Sakha to Buryatia

Place Units - Russians
            1 fighter placed in Russia
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Volgograd
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Novgorod

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 38 PUs total

triplea_38084_Rus1.tsvg

[JuanSpain]

Uhhh agressive Marshall Zhukov, that fits perfectly well in Hitler plans gentlemen  :-P

Regarding dice, I confirmed in our side also with Rubioton:

Normal dice + 3 rerolls would be good then.

Yes Garg:

I think about full battle rerolls (including AA, intercept, etc) for single combats (not turns).

They can be done using Triple A engine options for it and reposting (which suggests posting combat moves as a default, to be ready for the event of rerolling), or forum dice.

3 tokens for the full game for each side

Both defender or attacker can claim for the reroll, always low luck (because it is trying to correct extreme dice on a limited number of occasions only)

If the reroll affects to USA, consecuences of it in China or UK if there are, could be re-done/re-rolled too (including new purchase if you need). Fair play applicable here, like always…

[Karl7]

If the reroll affects to USA, consecuences of it in China or UK if there are, could be re-done/re-rolled too (including new purchase if you need). Fair play applicable here, like always…

I don’t understand this. If you declare a reroll it will be for a an attack made by the declaring player or for a defense against an attack by the moving player.

If a non-moving/defending player fails to declare a reroll immediately after the end of the attacking players move, then the reroll opportunity is lost for that entire move.

Otherwise how far can you go back?

What I am saying is, when a player finishes their turn, then any rerolls for that turn have to be declared before the next player goes. Otherwise, a player declaring a reroll would have a an unfair advantage by calculating into the decision all sorts of extra information including subsequent battles by other players.

No repurchases are allowed.

[JuanSpain]

Hi!!

What I meant is, we may declare a reroll vs USA (as defenders), and here there are 2 situations possible:

1. Always wait for China and UK until we confirm not reroll is required vs USA, or
2. You continue with China and UK and post all, as usual with no rerolls available, and if the reroll vs USA is requested, redo what is affected by that new result in UK or China, if it is necesary. May be you want changing UK purchase if after the reroll vs USA a succesfull USA combat becomes unsuccesfull. I was refering to this case.

[rubioton]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 mech_infantry and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 1 PUs;

Politics - Japanese
            Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Americans from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and British from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and ANZAC from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Dutch from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Germans and Americans from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Italians and Americans from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and British from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and UK_Pacific from Concordant to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
            Trigger Russians Allied Americans 5: Changing Relationship for Russians and Americans from Neutrality to Allied

Combat Move - Japanese
            Trigger Japanese Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared  for rulesAttatchment attached to Japanese
            1 fighter moved from Formosa to 20 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 fighter moved from 20 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China
                  Japanese take French Indo China from French
            2 bombers moved from Japan to 37 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to 20 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Philippines
            2 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
            2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
            1 artillery moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Hunan
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to Hunan
            1 fighter moved from Okinawa to 35 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to Kwangtung
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
                  Japanese take Chahar from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
                  Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese

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[rubioton]

Scramble SZ 35?

[Karl7]

no