@GeneralDisarray Game History
Round: 1 Bid Purchase - Germans Germans buy 1 artillery and 1 submarine; 0 PU unused Bid Placement - Germans 1 submarine placed in 120 Sea Zone 1 artillery placed in Holland Belgium Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Broken Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans Combat Move - Germans 2 submarines moved from 120 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 106 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 111 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 121 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 116 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Norway to 114 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 113 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone 3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux 1 armour moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 2 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France 3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Austria to France 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Austria to Yugoslavia 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia 1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia 1 fighter moved from Poland to Yugoslavia 1 artillery moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France Combat - Germans Battle in 109 Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 submarines British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport British win with 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4 Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in 113 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser; French defend with 1 cruiser Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British Germans win with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 34 Casualties for French: 1 cruiser Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser Battle in 114 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 37 Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Battle in Yugoslavia Germans attack with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 9 infantry Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry Germans win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 5 infantry Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in France Germans attack with 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 6 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery; French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital Germans converts factory_major into different units Germans win, taking France from French with 5 armour, 2 artilleries and 5 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 31 Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 6 infantry Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French triggerFrenchDestroyPUsGermans: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to French Non Combat Move - Germans 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 113 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 tactical_bomber moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 114 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to France 1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 2 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis 1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis 1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 117 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Denmark to 115 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Norway 1 infantry moved from Denmark to Western Germany Place Units - Germans 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 115 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 60 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs2015 League Post Game Results Here
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Oh, Karl, aren’t those “tactical bombers”? They only have a range of 4 - no problem!
[/quoteThose are JU 88’s! The same bombers used for the A&A bomber sculpt.
[/quote]Well, I stand corrected. They are He 111. Even bigger than the 88’s!
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no need to worry tho, they must not be bmnielsen’s, since there are only 3 of them…
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http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=35440.75
cyanight (Allies +12) over wheatbeer (Axis)
Catastrophic failure in Moscow.
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http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=35440.75
cyanight (Allies +12) over wheatbeer (Axis)
Catastrophic failure in Moscow.
whoa!
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http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=35440.75
cyanight (Allies +12) over wheatbeer (Axis)
Catastrophic failure in Moscow.
Ouch! Germany had good odds (86%)….but a 14% chance is still a decent chance I guess.
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Shin Ji Axis over Karl7
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=35530.180
2 times Shin Ji has trounced me with the german bomber strategy. I hate to say it, but I too am starting to wonder if the game is broken…
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Germans win, taking Egypt from British with 11 armour, 22 bombers, 20 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 348
…… omg! that’s gotta be a record!
yah karl, welcome to the “i’m starting to not like playing this game b/c of this stupid unrealistic all-bomber strategy” club…EVEN if there was a way to beat it, i doubt it’d be very consistent, and it’d still be super hard (and very stressful) to play against this strategy. it’s just too easy for germany to dominate everything with 20 or 30 bombers
after my championship game with bmnielsen, i am seriously considering just not playing anyone who employs this strategy. i’ll have to come up with some agreed-upon house rule that caps the number of bombers germany can buy in the early rounds, but i’m not really sure what the specifics would be. i have to think about it some more
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Germans win, taking Egypt from British with 11 armour, 22 bombers, 20 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 348
…… omg! that’s gotta be a record!
yah karl, welcome to the “i’m starting to not like playing this game b/c of this stupid unrealistic all-bomber strategy” club…EVEN if there was a way to beat it, i doubt it’d be very consistent, and it’d still be super hard (and very stressful) to play against this strategy. it’s just too easy for germany to dominate everything with 20 or 30 bombers
after my championship game with bmnielsen, i am seriously considering just not playing anyone who employs this strategy. i’ll have to come up with some agreed-upon house rule that caps the number of bombers germany can buy in the early rounds, but i’m not really sure what the specifics would be. i have to think about it some more
cmon man, embrace the challenge!! :-) gotta love it.
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Germans win, taking Egypt from British with 11 armour, 22 bombers, 20 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 348
…… omg! that’s gotta be a record!
yah karl, welcome to the “i’m starting to not like playing this game b/c of this stupid unrealistic all-bomber strategy” club…EVEN if there was a way to beat it, i doubt it’d be very consistent, and it’d still be super hard (and very stressful) to play against this strategy. it’s just too easy for germany to dominate everything with 20 or 30 bombers
after my championship game with bmnielsen, i am seriously considering just not playing anyone who employs this strategy. i’ll have to come up with some agreed-upon house rule that caps the number of bombers germany can buy in the early rounds, but i’m not really sure what the specifics would be. i have to think about it some more
cmon man, embrace the challenge!! :-) gotta love it.
karl, were you diced hard in this battle or were you taking a 0.0000000001% stand here?
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Germans win, taking Egypt from British with 11 armour, 22 bombers, 20 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 348
…… omg! that’s gotta be a record!
yah karl, welcome to the “i’m starting to not like playing this game b/c of this stupid unrealistic all-bomber strategy” club…EVEN if there was a way to beat it, i doubt it’d be very consistent, and it’d still be super hard (and very stressful) to play against this strategy. it’s just too easy for germany to dominate everything with 20 or 30 bombers
after my championship game with bmnielsen, i am seriously considering just not playing anyone who employs this strategy. i’ll have to come up with some agreed-upon house rule that caps the number of bombers germany can buy in the early rounds, but i’m not really sure what the specifics would be. i have to think about it some more
cmon man, embrace the challenge!! :-) gotta love it.
karl, were you diced hard in this battle or were you taking a 0.0000000001% stand here?
I didn’t look at the numbers, but I think Shin Ji had the advantage.
BUT, insult to injury, I also get diced. I rolled 39 ftrs in defense and got 23 – less than 50%.
The MARTI server likes to kick you while you are down.
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cmon man, embrace the challenge!!� �:-)� gotta love it.
as if playing against the more conventional axis strategies isn’t challenging enough??
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I had a 100%++ win chance. We had the same power, but I had about 40 more units. THe outcome was never really in doubt.
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Germans win, taking Egypt from British with 11 armour, 22 bombers, 20 mech_infantrys and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 348
…… omg! that’s gotta be a record!
yah karl, welcome to the “i’m starting to not like playing this game b/c of this stupid unrealistic all-bomber strategy” club…EVEN if there was a way to beat it, i doubt it’d be very consistent, and it’d still be super hard (and very stressful) to play against this strategy. it’s just too easy for germany to dominate everything with 20 or 30 bombers
after my championship game with bmnielsen, i am seriously considering just not playing anyone who employs this strategy. i’ll have to come up with some agreed-upon house rule that caps the number of bombers germany can buy in the early rounds, but i’m not really sure what the specifics would be. i have to think about it some more
cmon man, embrace the challenge!!� �:-)� gotta love it.
karl, were you diced hard in this battle or were you taking a 0.0000000001% stand here?
I didn’t look at the numbers, but I think Shin Ji had the advantage.
BUT, insult to injury, I also get diced.� I rolled 39 ftrs in defense and got 23 – less than 50%.
The MARTI server likes to kick you while� you are down.
23 of 39 is 58.9% Karl…
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23 of 39 is more than 50%… yes, I was confused. Probably in shock and awe of Shin Ji’s bombers!
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Shin is right…. he had a bunch of fodder, I had basically none.
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I’d like to note that I only had about 22 bombers at the time, and it was round 14. So, pretty conservative as far as bomber stacks go.
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22 bomber! :-o
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@Shin:
I’d like to note that I only had about 22 bombers at the time, and it was round 14.� So, pretty conservative as far as bomber stacks go.
while you may think 22 bombers is conservative for a round 14 battle, but it’s those same bombers that severely restricted movement and reinforcements throughout the rounds, as well as forced other critical territories and sea zones to be overly-heavily guarded (like UK and i’m sure 91 or 110, for ex (haven’t seen your game so i don’t know the specifics)), and hence when you decided on the final blow, it was a true blowout…how could anyone guard all the critical territories and sea zones sufficiently? can’t, allies just don’t have that kind of money…so when the hammer finally drops on one of those critical territories that had to make due with less support, it’s a true crushing
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@Shin:
I’d like to note that I only had about 22 bombers at the time, and it was round 14.� So, pretty conservative as far as bomber stacks go.
while you may think 22 bombers is conservative for a round 14 battle, but it’s those same bombers that severely restricted movement and reinforcements throughout the rounds, as well as forced other critical territories and sea zones to be overly-heavily guarded (like UK and i’m sure 91 or 110, for ex (haven’t seen your game so i don’t know the specifics)), and hence when you decided on the final blow, it was a true blowout…how could anyone guard all the critical territories and sea zones sufficiently? can’t, allies just don’t have that kind of money…so when the hammer finally drops on one of those critical territories that had to make due with less support, it’s a true crushing
Exactly right A-D: the problem here with Shin did a J1 causing the US to focus on the Pacific almost exclusively. So when the final battle came in Europe, there was no way the US could build up an atlantic fleet in time that would even have a chance against German bombers. So the only thing the allies could do in the short run was fortify–which didn’t work.
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Just try a three submarine bid. Z110 or Z111, z91 and z98. That way you can crush the italian navy and the submarine in Z110 and Z111 can submerge, but the Germans do need to take it into account when calculating as you may choose not submerge it and let it absorb a hit. Not saying it will work, but key early game for the Italians is navy and key for the Germans is air. Bids need to be aimed at killing as much of that as possible. I might be wrong. I prefer playing with axis anyways, but still.
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