L14-15 JWW v Axis Dominion (allies +15)

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@axis-dominion:

Go ahead and invade north America. You know you want to :)

I just noticed this….I did consider it.  8-)

[666]

I think I just noticed, perhaps I am crazy, you bought tech dice? We aren’t playing tech?!?! Am I imagining this?

[axis-dominion]

Yes tech was turned on, so why not? After all, you’re the one who set the options  :-D and I’m pretty sure no where in our pre-game discussion did we mention no tech.

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@axis-dominion:

Yes tech was turned on, so why not? After all, you’re the one who set the options  :-D and I’m pretty sure no where in our pre-game discussion did we mention no tech.

I believe the standard format is non-tech unless agreed otherwise. When starting the game I don’t go into options and turn these settings off. I guess I will need to do this going forward. I have never played a tech game, I don’t wish to start in the middle of this game. How do we remedy this?

[666]

From the League rules thread……

**4 - Game & rules default G40 2nd edition rules, ADS, NO’s, No Tech, Auction Bid.  Rules available online here (Europe rules, then Pacific rules): http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/A&A_Europe_1940_2ndEd_Rulebook_LR.pdf
http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/A&A_Pacific_1940_2ndEd_Rulebook_LR.pdf

4a Tech or Low Luck Tech or Low Luck is allowed if you and your opponent agree prior to bidding.  You should notate +Tech or +LL in the thread title for the moderators.**

[axis-dominion]

I’m fairly new to league play and I guess I jumped in without knowing all the rules. As I said, I assumed if it’s turned on and not explicitly agreed against at game start, it’d just be allowed by default.

I’m here to have fun more than anything else. The idea of a competitive league is cool but not my main goal for playing here. So feel free to decide whatever way to resolve this, and I’ll go with it.

I realize many players don’t like tech, but you should consider it as a way to make the games even more varied and interesting.

I do apologize for the concern it has caused you.

[axis-dominion]

Perhaps one way to remedy is to turn on heavy bombers (same tech I got) for one of your powers, and deduct 20 PUs (the total cost I spent in the two turns I researched, or conversely, add 20 PUs back to US for next turn). What do you think?

[666]

@axis-dominion:

I’m fairly new to league play and I guess I jumped in without knowing all the rules. As I said, I assumed if it’s turned on and not explicitly agreed against at game start, it’d just be allowed by default.

This is a lesson for me not to be lazy. Going forward, if I start the game I will disable tech when it is not “in play”.

@axis-dominion:

I’m here to have fun more than anything else. The idea of a competitive league is cool but not my main goal for playing here. So feel free to decide whatever way to resolve this, and I’ll go with it.

using edit, you should repost the allied turn, w/out tech and perhaps use the tech dice purchase on another item for the usa. Send me the updated file when ready…

@axis-dominion:

I realize many players don’t like tech, but you should consider it as a way to make the games even more varied and interesting.

personally, I think there is enough luck in the game and although the thought of adding the variation that tech would certainly provide interesting, I am afraid my small brain wouldn’t be able to manage it all in our competitive league�perhaps in a non-league game I will give this a try�if I have time.
@axis-dominion:

I do apologize for the concern it has caused you.

No problem�in all my years, I have never seen this happen and wasn’t sure how to approach it. Thanks for agreeing to resolve this w/out moderation involvement! I await the revised file�…

[666]

@axis-dominion:

Perhaps one way to remedy is to turn on heavy bombers (same tech I got) for one of your powers, and deduct 20 PUs (the total cost I spent in the two turns I researched, or conversely, add 20 PUs back to US for next turn). What do you think?

sorry no….i’m already getting a headache thinking about what this means for our game….I don’t even know what heavy bmb’s mean, in the older versions of AA it meant two dice vs one and I think you took the best dice of the two? anyways, sorry again, this is too much for my small mind to wrap itself around….

[axis-dominion]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Research Technology - Italians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 10 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Western United States: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Central United States: 1 artillery
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Western United States: 1 artillery
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Eastern United States: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Removing Technology Heavy Bomber for Americans
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

[axis-dominion]

ok done. i added 20 PUs worth back to US (tranny, inf, and ftr) and removed the tech.

[666]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Research Technology - Italians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 10 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Western United States: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Central United States: 1 artillery
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Western United States: 1 artillery
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Eastern United States: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Removing Technology Heavy Bomber for Americans
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 infantry and 2 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Yugoslavia
            3 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Yugoslavia

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Research Technology - Italians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 10 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Western United States: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Central United States: 1 artillery
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Western United States: 1 artillery
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Eastern United States: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Removing Technology Heavy Bomber for Americans
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 infantry and 2 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Yugoslavia
            3 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Yugoslavia

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Norway
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Italians win, taking Norway from Russians with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Yugoslavia
                Italians attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                Italians win, taking Yugoslavia from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Slovakia Hungary
            1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya
            1 artillery moved from Tunisia to Libya
            1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Libya

Place Units - Italians
            2 infantry placed in Northern Italy
            2 mech_infantrys placed in Southern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 9
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,1,2,3,3,5,3,3,1
            Italians collect 9 PUs (9 lost to blockades); end with 9 PUs total

Territory Summary for Italians :

Scotland : 1 flag, 1 airfield
    Kenya : 1 flag
    United Kingdom : 1 fighter
    Algeria : 1 flag
    Southern France : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Tunisia : 1 flag
    Slovakia Hungary : 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
    Western Germany : 1 aaGun
    Norway : 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Northern Italy : 1 factory_major and 2 infantry
    Libya : 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Southern Italy : 3 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 bomber, 1 factory_minor, 3 fighters, 1 harbour, 8 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
    113 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 2 transports
    Eire : 1 flag
    Yugoslavia : 1 flag, 1 artillery

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 37 / 43
    Russians : 48 / 80
    Japanese : 58 / 61
    Americans : 53 / 73
    Chinese : 4 / 4
    British : 22 / 0
    UK_Pacific : 6 / 6
    Italians : 18 / 9
    ANZAC : 11 / 19
    French : 5 / 0
    Dutch : 3 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 infantry moved from South Australia to Queensland
            2 fighters moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            3 fighters moved from India to Malaya

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in Malaya
                ANZAC attack with 3 fighters
                Japanese defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -9
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for ANZAC: 3 fighters
            Battle in Queensland
                ANZAC attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                ANZAC win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            2 fighters moved from Queensland to New South Wales
            2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from South Australia to New South Wales
            2 infantry moved from Egypt to Alexandria

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 fighter placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 11 PUs; end with 11 PUs total
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 16 PUs

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French
            1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Alexandria

Turn Complete - French

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TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 13 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 mech_infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Albania
            1 mech_infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Bulgaria
                  Germans take Bulgaria from Russians
            1 mech_infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Albania
            1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
                  Germans take Eastern Poland from Russians
            3 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Albania
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Albania
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 13 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 mech_infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Albania
            1 mech_infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Bulgaria
                  Germans take Bulgaria from Russians
            1 mech_infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Albania
            1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
                  Germans take Eastern Poland from Russians
            3 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Albania
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Albania
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Albania
                Germans attack with 2 bombers and 2 mech_infantrys
                Russians defend with 1 armour
                Germans win, taking Albania from Russians with 2 bombers and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour
            Battle in Poland
                Germans attack with 3 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                Germans win, taking Poland from Russians with 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            2 bombers moved from Albania to Southern Italy
            3 armour moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from United Kingdom to Slovakia Hungary
            3 tactical_bombers moved from Poland to Slovakia Hungary
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Slovakia Hungary
            2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Slovakia Hungary
            2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            3 armour, 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 9 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland
            1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 aaGun moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland
            1 armour moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 armour moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 armour moved from 113 Sea Zone to Germany
            6 armour moved from Holland Belgium to Germany
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 artillery moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Slovakia Hungary to Western Germany

Place Units - Germans
            10 infantry placed in Western Germany
            3 infantry placed in United Kingdom
            1 mech_infantry placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 46 PUs

Territory Summary for Germans :

United Kingdom : 1 flag, 3 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 3 fighters, 1 harbour and 8 infantry
    Normandy Bordeaux : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    France : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 factory_minor
    Slovakia Hungary : 2 aaGuns, 7 artilleries, 26 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
    Western Germany : 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter, 1 harbour, 10 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
    Poland : 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 12 infantry
    Germany : 7 armour, 1 factory_major and 1 mech_infantry
    Norway : 2 armour and 1 artillery
    Albania : 1 mech_infantry
    Southern Italy : 2 bombers
    Eastern Poland : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    113 Sea Zone : 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 1 submarine and 9 transports
    95 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    106 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    Bulgaria : 1 flag, 1 mech_infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 41 / 46
    Russians : 43 / 80
    Japanese : 58 / 61
    Americans : 53 / 73
    Chinese : 4 / 4
    British : 22 / 0
    UK_Pacific : 6 / 6
    Italians : 19 / 9
    ANZAC : 11 / 16
    French : 5 / 0
    Dutch : 3 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 armour moved from Greece to Albania
            1 fighter moved from Romania to Albania
            2 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Bulgaria
            2 infantry moved from Baltic States to Eastern Poland
            1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Eastern Poland
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Amur to Korea
                  Russians take Korea from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Siberia to Soviet Far East
                  Russians take Soviet Far East from Japanese

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Eastern Poland
                Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians win, taking Eastern Poland from Germans with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Yugoslavia
                Russians attack with 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 artillery
                Russians win, taking Yugoslavia from Italians with 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery
            Battle in Bulgaria
                Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 mech_infantry
                Russians win, taking Bulgaria from Germans with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Albania
                Russians attack with 1 armour and 1 fighter
                Germans defend with 1 mech_infantry
                Russians win, taking Albania from Italians with 1 armour and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
            Trigger Russians Conquer Japanese Territory By Mongolia: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Mongolia_May_Change_To_Russians_Control_Switch attached to Russians

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
            1 fighter moved from Albania to Romania
            1 fighter moved from Bulgaria to Romania
            1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Romania
            5 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Romania
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Baltic States to Romania
            3 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
            1 cruiser moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Novgorod to Bryansk
            1 armour moved from Russia to Bryansk
            2 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Romania
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Egypt
            2 infantry moved from Iraq to Persia
            3 infantry moved from Kansu to Suiyuyan
            1 infantry moved from Kansu to Suiyuyan
            2 infantry moved from Siberia to Amur
            1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone

Place Units - Russians
            1 factory_minor placed in Greece
            2 artilleries and 1 fighter placed in Romania
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Ukraine
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Volgograd
            6 mech_infantrys placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs total
            Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs
            Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 72 PUs

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never saw a factory purchase for Russia before! Damn

[axis-dominion]

There are two new ones actually lol and more coming  :evil: