The US as an aggresive Axis power, Japan as a peaceful Allied power.


  • @wittmann:

    So, Marc, do you have any idea if it should be Allied or Axis leaning, in this game?
    Perhaps it should stay Allied, but Argentina should be made pro Axis.
    Might be fun to hot things up in South America.

    When I get home tonight, I’ll check my files for a list I once prepared of the historical pro-Axis / pro-Allied leanings of the various countries on the Global map.  I’ll see what the situation was in Latin America specifically.  From memory, I’d say Brazil should definitely be counted as pro-Allied.  I think there was one country in South America that I categorized in my list as pro-Axis; it may indeed have been Argentina, but I’ll consult my list to make sure.  One country (Bolivia, IIRC) joined the Allies at mid-war, in 1943.  A number of late-comers hopped into the Allied camp in 1945, which I think is the diplomatic equivalent of cheating (wait until victory is guaranteed for one side, then join that side just before the shooting stops), so I still classed them as neutrals in my list.  I’ll post the details here tomorrow.

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    gonna read this on the train to work tomorrow, it looks externally interesting.


  • Thanks Marc.

    YG: I agree. Is always nice to have a different set up.

  • Customizer

    KNP I really applaud this type of customization! This is in a similar vane to something I’ve been working on for ages.

    Secondly I finally got my Dad to platy Axis & Allies Revised on Labor Day after literally trying to persuade him for twenty years. I bring this up because he wants to jump straight to Global and asked if players can come up with alternative history/timeline scenarios. I grinned a wide grin and replied "oh yeah, me and a bunch of the guys I talk to on A&A.org come up with stuff all the time.

    Kudos KNP!

  • Customizer

    toblerone77,
    I’m glad you like it. What did you think about my alternate history? A couple of points may have been pure fantasy, but I think a lot of it could have been plausible if certain figures made different decisions. Particularly in Japan. A little while back, I read the book “Japan 1941: Countdown to Infamy” by Eri Hotta. It covered a lot of the events in Japan that lead up to the Pearl Harbor attack. It was amazing to me how many of the government leaders in Japan that were actually wanting more peaceful resolutions to their problems with the US. They would often get together in private meetings and agree with each other that they didn’t want war. By the way, this includes Hideki Tojo. Then when they make more public speeches, they take this hard line, Japan is invincible stance. None of them wanted to seem “weak” in front of the others or the general public. Talk about the ultimate peer pressure.

    wittmann,
    Do you have first edition or second edition Europe 40 maps? I have the second edition and Argentina does border Brazil, right between Uruguay and Paraguay. They also share sea zone 85.

    CWO Marc,
    YES! Fritz Kuhn was the one I was thinking about.


  • I have both, but was using my tired old eyes and AAA.
    Thank you for pointing out my error. Bordering each other makes it more fun if one is Allied friendly and the other Axis! Will look again later.


  • @wittmann:

    So, Marc, do you have any idea if it should be Allied or Axis leaning, in this game?
    Perhaps it should stay Allied, but Argentina should be made pro Axis.
    Might be fun to hot things up in South America.

    Here’s my assessment of where the countries of Latin America stood historically (as opposed to what the Global game map says) in relation to the Axis and the Allies, with some ideas on how this might play out in A&A terms.

    Central America
    This map territory is actually a region consisting mostly of sovereign states: Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras (a.k.a. Spanish Honduras), Nicaragua, and Costa Rica.  All of them joined the Allies in December 1941.  The region also includes two foreign-controlled territories – British Honduras (a British possession in the years 1871-1964) and the Panama Canal Zone (controlled by the United States) – which both entered the war when their respective controlling countries did. 
    Assessment: they were Allied nations from the moment when the US entered the war.

    West Indies
    This is a region comprising a  mix of sovereign states and foreign-held territories.  The sovereign states were  Cuba, Haiti and the Dominican Republic; all three joined the Allies in December 1941.  The foreign-held territories consisted of American ones like Puerto Rico; British ones like Jamaica, the Bahamas, Trinidad, Tobago and some of the Lesser Antilles (including Barbados); French ones like Martinique and Guadeloupe; and Dutch ones like St. Martin.  All of these entered the war when their respective controlling countries did. 
    Assessment: treated as a group for the sake of simplicity, they were Allied nations from the moment when the US entered the war.

    Mexico
    Declared war on the Axis powers in May 1942 after a number of U-boat attacks on Mexican ships. 
    Assessment: became an Allied nation about half a year after the US entered the war.

    Brazil
    Declared war on the Axis powers in August 1942 after a number of U-boat attacks on Brazilian ships.  It became the only Latin American nation to send troops overseas when it contributed about two divisions to the European theatre in 1944.
    Assessment: became an Allied nation about half a year after the US entered the war.

    Bolivia
    Joined the Allies in 1943 (the only country in the world to declare war in that year), but shortly thereafter its President was overthrown and was replaced by a new President with fascist sympathies.  The country remained in the war on the Allied side, but made no military contributions.
    Assessment: for the sake of simplicity, can be considered a neutral state; it entered the war in mid-stream, on a more or less nominal basis.

    Chile
    Initially neutral due to its commercial interests with Germany, but gradually distanced itself from the Axis nations, with whom it finally broke relations in 1943.  Declared war on Japan in 1945.
    Assessment: neutral until the last year of the war.

    Ecuador
    Stayed neutral until February 1945, when it joined the Allies.
    Assessment: neutral until the last year of the war.

    Uruguay
    Neutral for much of the war.  Broke off relations with the Axis in early 1942.  Joined the Allies in February 1945.
    Assessment: neutral until the last year of the war.

    Columbia
    Although it does not appear to have ever joined the Allies in a formal sense, Columbia leaned in their direction.  It broke relations with the Axis soon after Pearl Harbor; it supplied the Allies with oil; it signed the United Nations Declaration in July 1943; and it declared a state of “belligency” against Germany in late 1943 following a U-boat attack on a Colombian ship.
    Assessment: should at the very least be considered pro-Allies, but probably not an actual Allied nation.

    Peru
    Peru did not formally declare war on the Axis powers until 1945, but it supported the Allied powers from an early date.  It broke relations with the Axis in January 1942; it allowed an American air base to operate from its territory and supplied it with aviation fuel; and its ships patroled the Panama Canal area.
    Assessment: should be considered pro-Allies.

    Venezuela
    Venezuela did not formally declare war on the Axis powers until late in the war, but it broke relations with the Axis powers soon after Pearl Harbor and it was an important source of oil for the Allies throughout the war.
    Assessment: should be considered pro-Allies.

    Argentina
    Stayed neutral for most of the war, despite being ruled by a succession of authoritarian and/or military regimes.  This was due in part to the fact that neutrality was seen as being economically advatageous (since the country could sell exports to both sides), but also due to conflicts within the Argentine government between fascists and leftist radicals. The US pressured Argentina to join the Allies, but this was offset by Argentina’s traditionally close ties with Germany, with a resulting preference for neutrality.  A small number of Argentine volunteers fought on the Allied side.  Argentina broke relations with the Axis powers in June 1943 following a coup, but only joined the Allies in March 1945.
    Assessment: neutral until the last year of the war, but politically volatile and with some potential to have tilted in either direction at an earlier date.

    Paraguay

    The country’s authoritarian government was openly sympathetic to the Axis, as was the country’s large German population.  The US tried to decrease German influence in Paraguay with financial assistance, but had only limited succes.  Paraguay did not act against German economic and diplomatic interests in the country until it joined the Allies in February 1945. 
    Assessment: should be considered pro-Axis.


  • Wow. A lot of time and effort has gone into that post. Thank you.
    Probably best to leave Brazil Allied friendly then. The US probably does not need its 3 Inf in this scenario anyway.

  • Customizer

    Hey guys. We started out this game and got through the first round tonight. Before we could start, I realized that I had to rework some of the National Objectives, then I ended up making a pretty big change with China.
    United States National Objectives:
    10 IPCs = US control of Eastern US, Central US, Western US, Mexico, SW Mexico, Central America, West Indies and Alaska.
      5 IPCs = US Control of Hawaii, Midway, Wake, Guam and Philippines.
      5 IPCs = US control of Borneo, Celebes, Java and Sumatra.
      5 IPCs = US control of Japan (Tokyo)
      5 IPCs = US control of New South Wales (Sydney)
      5 IPCs = US control of Kiangsu (Shanghai)
      5 IPCs = US control of India (Calcutta)
    Japan National Objectives:
      5 IPCs = Japanese control of all Japanese Pacific Islands
      5 IPCs = Allied control of Borneo, Celebes, Java and Sumatra
      5 IPCs = Japanese Control of Philippines and Guam
    CHINA:
      5 IPCs = (Once at war) Chinese control of all Chinese territories
    I made China an industrialized nation, but a little less than others. They start with a Major Factory in Shanghai and can produce any units they wish with the exception of capital ships (Battleships and Aircraft Carriers). All new units purchased by China must be placed at their Major Factory.
    With this rule, China is now allowed to purchase ships, including transports, and leave Chinese borders. Chinese air units can fly out over the ocean and attack Axis ships. Chinese units are allowed to enter Allied territories.
    If Shanghai is captured, the Major Factory is reduced to a Minor Factory like any other. Now Chinese production is dependent upon the Burma Road and China may only purchase infantry and artillery. China may now place those new units in any Chinese controlled territory.
    If the Burma Road is closed by Axis capture of Szechwan, Yunnan, Burma and/or India, then China can ONLY purchase infantry and place them in any Chinese controlled territory.
    If Shanghai is liberated, China can resume purchasing any units they like within the limitations of a Minor Factory (no units over 10 IPCs) and they can upgrade the Minor Factory back to a Major Factory for 10 IPCs.
    If Shanghai is captured, China will be able to collect the Burma Road National Objective (if all 4 territories of the Burma Road are held by Allies). If Shanghai is liberated, China can continue to collect the Burma Road NO. Once China regains ALL of it’s territories, the Burma Road NO will drop.
    Burma Road National Objective:
      6 IPCs = Allied Control of Szechwan, Yunnan, Burma and India. This occurs when Shanghai is captured by Axis forces and will not drop off until China captures all original territories again.
    To incorporate this change, I have added the following to China’s setup:
    Kiangsu = 1 Major Factory, 1 Air Base, 1 Naval Base, 4 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter

    It is interesting to see China more active. Perhaps it won’t make the Allies as weak as I first thought they would be in making the US this big powerful Axis nation.


  • All makes a lot of sense. Good  thinking.
    Might be you can scrap the 10 for the US, as they will soon have conquered territories, like the Japanese would traditionally. I cannot see the US losing any of its starting 52. Otherwise it will be on a 100 within a few turns and that might prove too much.

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    Here’s a quick report of our round 1.
    GERMANY = Purchased 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine.
    Attacked Normandy, France, Southern France and Yugoslavia. Won France, lost 5 infantry, 1 artillery. Won Southern France, lost 1 mech. Won Yugoslavia, lost 1 infantry. LOST Normandy, lost 2 mechs, retreated 1 tank to Holland.
    Sank all Royal Navy ships in Sea Zones 109, 110, and 111. Lost 2 subs in SZ 110, no planes lost. Suffered 1 hit on battleship in SZ 111, no other losses. Both subs in SZ 109 survived.
    Took Finland and Bulgaria in NCM. CA and TT SZ 114 moved to SZ 112. All ships placed SZ 112.
    SOVIET UNION = Purchased 4 Artillery, 2 Tanks, 3 Infantry.
    Massing units on border. New units placed at forward factories.
    UNITED STATES = Purchased 2 Carriers, 2 Transports, 1 Submarine.
    Took all Canadian/Commonwealth territories. Destroyed small Canadian Navy.
    Attacked Japanese Navy in Sea Zones 6, 19 and 20. US sub killed IJN Cruiser and Transport in SZ 20. US FTR and TAC killed IJN Destroyer in SZ 19 but couldn’t touch IJN Sub. Destroyed all Japanese ships plus scramble aircraft in SZ 6, survived with 1 carrier, 2 fighters and 1 damaged battleship. Also used 3 transports to land 4 infantry, 1 artillery and 1 tank on Korea, Won that battle but lost 2 infantry.
    Sent 3 transports and took Brazil. Lost 1 infantry.
    Moved some units for attack on Japan. Other units in position to attack Commonwealth navy. Placed 1 CV, 1 SS, 2 TT in SZ 10. 1 CV in SZ 101.
    JAPAN = Purchased 5 infantry.
    Attacked US Navy in SZ 6 with 1 fighter from Formosa, 1 fighter from Carolines, 1 Sub from SZ 19, 1 DD from SZ 33 and 1 Bomber from Japan. Both sides wiped each other out so 3 US transports survive undefended.
    Placed 5 infantry in Japan.
    CHINA = Purchased 2 DD, 1 Transport.
    Attacked Korea with 3 infantry, 1 artillery from Manchuria. Lost battle with no US losses.
    Sent fighter to SZ 6 and sank US transports then returned to Shanghai.
    Placed 2 DD, 1 TT in SZ 19.
    UNITED KINGDOM = Purchased 6 infantry, 1 fighter, 1 transport.
    Sent fighter from Scotland to attack German Battleship in SZ 111. UK fighter was killed, German BB survived.
    Sent 2 FTR, 1 Bomber from UK, 1 CV, 1 CA, 1 DD, 1 TAC from SZ 98 all to SZ 97. Killed 1 Italian BB, CA, 2 FTRS and 1 German FTR with 1 TAC, 1 Bomber surviving.
    Sent 1 FTR from Gibraltar, 1 FTR from Malta to attack Italian DD, TT in SZ 96. Killed Italian ships but lost 1 fighter.
    All units from Alexandria, 1 mech from Egypt and 1 infantry,1 artillery via transport to Tobruk. UK won with 1 tank, 1 mech and 1 artillery surviving.
    NCM = 1 infantry from Sudan to Kenya. Infantry/artillery via transport to Sumatra. CA DD from SZ 39 to SZ 41. 1 BB from SZ 37 to SZ 54.
    Placed 6 infantry, 1 fighter on England. 1 transport SZ 39.
    ITALY = Purchased 1 fighter.
    CA, DD, SS from SZ 95 to SZ 93. Both French ships sunk, no Italian losses.
    1 inf/1 art via transport from N Italy to Greece along with 2 infantry, 1 tank from Albania. Won battle with loss of 2 infantry.
    Inf/Art from Libya attack Tunisia. Won battle, lost 1 infantry.
    1 infantry from Ethiopia move into Sudan.
    1 infantry/1 artillery from Ethiopia and 1 infantry from Italian Somaliland to Kenya. Won battle, lost 1 infantry.
    1 tank, 1 bomber from N Italy to Normandy. Won battle, lost bomber.
    Placed 1 fighter in Southern Italy.
    COMMONWEALTH = Purchased 1 tank, 1 mech, 1 transport, 1 infantry.
    Attacked Sudan with 2 infantry in Egypt. Won battle with no losses.
    Moved fighter from New Zealand to Queensland. Moved transport from SZ 62 with infantry/artillery from Queensland to Java. Moved DD SZ 63 and CA SZ 62 to SZ 54.
    Placed 1 tank 1 mech in South Africa. 1 TT in SZ 71. 1 Infantry in New South Wales.
    FRANCE = Capital captured, no purchases.
    Moved 1 infantry from Morocco and 1 fighter from England to Algeria. Moved 1 infantry from French West Africa to French Central Africa. Moved 1 Infantry from Syria to Trans-Jordan. Moved 1 DD from SZ 72 to SZ 81.

    Well, that’s how it sits so far. The US did a lot right off the bat, but definitely had a set back against Japan. Allowing China more options looks pretty interesting so far. Looking forward to see how this works out.
    So far Europe seems to be going as a typical game of G40. Germany had pretty good luck for the most part, Normandy notwithstanding. UK had a lot of good action against Italy, but lost a lot of RAF and Royal Navy in the process. I think Italy is still in fairly good shape. It will depend on what the Commonwealth does from S. Africa.


  • Does not seem to hopeful for the Allies. Can you see a chink of light?
    What is the income differential end of the turn?
    Did the Axis also start with more TUV? If so, surely it will win.

  • Customizer

    Well, we are through round 3 and here is the way things look:
    Germany took London. Lost 3 aircraft to AA fire so now has 1 fighter, 4 Stukas and 2 Bombers in the Luftwaffe. Won London with 6 tanks left, so fairly costly. One really weird difference is USA sent over 2 bombers and ran an SBR on London’s IC. They are in Paris and plan to help Germany attack Russia. USA has little presence in Europe/Atlantic as they are pretty busy with ANZAC, Japan and China.
    Russia launched attacks on Finland, Poland, Hungary and Romania. I think our Russian player misjudged the strength of his attacking forces and Germany had a little good luck on defensive dice. Russians won overwhelmingly in Finland, but still lost 4 infantry. Russian won in Poland but only with 2 artillery, 2 tanks left. Russia LOST in Hungary, retreated 2 tanks, 1 artillery to E Poland. Russia LOST in Romania, lost all land units, retreated 1 fighter and 1 tactical bomber. So while Russia has a fair amount of money now, they are not in a good strategic position.
    USA is poised to attack Japan. USA attacked China by taking Manchuria and Shanghai. Only survived with 1 tank, 1 artillery in both places. China had enough to take both territories back, but they are pretty weak right now. USA also took New Zealand and killed ANZAC navy plus British BB, but lost 2 cruisers and 4 destroyers in the process.
    Japan is in poor shape. Will probably be taken by US next round.
    United Kingdom has lost London, but they still have a few units around. UK took Philippines from US and also took out Iraq.
    Italians are having real trouble in the Med. Commonwealth forces wiped out Italians in Africa. Italians tried to launch amphibious assault on Egypt with 3 transports, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer against 1 French Destroyer. The French Destroyer sank BOTH Italian warships causing Italian transports to retreat to SZ 96 with all their stuff still on them and no protection. On France’s turn, French fighter based in Gibraltar flew out and sank those transports. Cost Italy a LOT of money. It may take them a while to bounce back from this.
    Commonwealth is doing fairly well for losing all of Canada. They have cleared Africa of Axis units and getting ready to emerge into the Med and possibly cause more problems for Italy. However, they have to worry about the US force in New Zealand which threatens Sydney. At present, they have more protection on Sydney than the US forces in the area can overcome, but once US finishes Japan, perhaps ANZAC will be the next victim to Yankee Imperialism.
    So far, it is looking like it will be an Axis victory, but the Allies are fighting like hell to stop it. So it’s not just a total blowout at least.


  • Thanks again for reporting.
    I am sure it has been fun and a nice change, but if you want to play again, I think you need to take the Home NOs off the US. Did you reduce the number of Transports too?
    Did you count up the starting Incomes and ensure that the Axis  started with less?
    Perhaps the only hope is a stronger USSR: give them 10 more ground units.
    The way I see it, if the US is not going to cross the Atlantic to save Russia, by opening up a Second Front, why would Germany not DOW it on G2? Germany can usually capture Moscow or neutralise its income very quickly and there will not be a rescue effort coming from anywhere. Japan cannot help.
    Thanks again, Knp, for devising this evil little plan.

  • Customizer

    Hey Wittmann,
    To answer some of your questions:
    No, I did not reduce the # of US Transports. That was actually an oversight on my part. Just forgot.
    I will take into consideration further change of the US NOs. You are probably right that the Home Territory NO could be scrapped.
    No, I didn’t do any figuring on incomes, but I just did now and in territory income the Allies have 149 and the Axis have 92. Not as big a swing as the traditional game. After all, in the traditional G 40 game, Axis power Japan starts with 26. Now Axis power USA starts with 52, twice as much. I didn’t figure in any NOs either. I suppose if I wanted to make this a more serious setup possibility, I should probably rework not only the setup but the map itself. Since this is very ahistorical, I could probably push it a little further. What do you think about these ideas that come to mind:
    Alaska and Aleutian Islands belong to the Soviet Union. Say the US never bought Alaska from Russia, or Russia never sold it. That’s a 2 IPC deduction from US and addition to Russia.
    Philippines, Guam, Wake, Midway, Hawaii all belong to Japan. Perhaps the US lost the Spanish American War and Japan ended up making a deal with Spain for Philippines and Guam. Maybe the native Hawaiian people voted for Japanese rule rather than US rule and Japan helped them with some sort of uprising. Maybe Wake and Midway went along with Hawaii. OR, Wake and Midway could still be US forward bases with the US intention of taking back Hawaii from Japan. That would be a 3 IPC loss from US and a 3 IPC addition to Japan.
    Another idea for Mexico, SE Mexico, Central America and West Indies. Suggesting that the US lost the Spanish American War, these territories could all be considered Spanish colonies and thus STRICT Neutrals. That would be another 5 IPCs deducted from the US income.
    So with these ideas, that would cut down the US income to 42 IPCs per turn. Unfortunately, that is the value of EUS, CUS and WUS so you can’t cut it down any more. The US would be left with their home territories and a few small islands in the pacific.
    You mentioned adding units to Russia. I am wondering if this setup might require an overall Allied bid of extra units to the starting setup, some for Russia and some for UK. I already added a few new units to Commonwealth, but perhaps they would need a few more as well.
    I will have to give this some more thought.
    Thanks for your input wittmann. Let me know what you think about the above ahistorical ideas.

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    I love the intro, and the way you set the stage for us. Is this ready to go or does it need more refinement? It seems like a massive change that could cause many loop holes in the rules, have you found many glitches?

  • Customizer

    Hey YG,
    Oh yeah, I have been noticing things that probably need some tweaking. I think I need to rework the US NOs for one thing. They are a little too much like their old NOs and I need to make them more in line with an aggressor nation.
    I’ve also tossed around the idea of adding a few more Allied starting units, like perhaps a few more ground units for Russia and maybe some ships for the UK. Just not sure what or where just yet. The Allies have still got to be weaker militarily than the Axis so I don’t want to give them so much that the Axis can’t win. On the other hand, I don’t want to leave it a blowout for the Axis either. There has got to be a balance in there somewhere.
    For one thing, I think this version has made Sealion much more acceptable for the Axis. Think about this: Sure, Russia can attack if London falls but they will only get so far. Germany can hold Russia off, at the very least from getting Berlin. Then with the London Treasury, they can buy a LOT of stuff to fight off the Soviets. This might be okay even in a regular G40 game. BUT, here is the hitch: Now Germany knows there will be no great liberating fleet steaming in from America because now the US and Germany are pals. On top of that, the first thing USA does is to take over Canada so England will not be getting any help there either.
    So, basically if Germany can withstand the initial Russian attack, and Russia does not have a strong enough force to really press Berlin, then sacking London is pretty much a total plus for Germany. It will hurt them if they lose a lot of units in the battle for London, but even at that Germany doesn’t have to worry about losing their navy because the only threat to that was the US Air Force and/or US Navy, which in this case will not be coming. In fact, in our game US bombers SBRed London.

    This is making me think maybe my London defenses should be stronger in this variant. Or would it be better to have more Royal Navy?
    A while back, just for kicks we played a game where the US simply stayed neutral. It was really an easy Axis victory. Without US interference, Germany easily handled both UK and Russia while Japan just pretty much flowed throughout the Pacific. The only difference was Japan had to side step US territories.
    With the US as an active Axis nation, even with Japan becoming an Ally, I think it makes things that much harder for the Allies.

    I want to see how our current game ends up – will probably be taking it back up this weekend – but I will try to figure out how to balance things out better. I don’t want Sealion to be too easy, which I think is what I have done, but I don’t want it totally off the table either.
    I might need to try out a game where Germany goes Barbarossa first and see how that works out. I am also wondering if I should make a rule where the US can not immediately attack Canada. I think it would be nice if Canada were able to help out London some.
    Perhaps some weird political rules where the US won’t attack UK or the Commonwealth, but they will not fight the Germans or Italians either.
    Or, maybe put in some conditions that have to happen before the US would go to war with UK/Commonwealth. The US starts out at war with Japan and China. Maybe some other conditions would have to happen for the US to go to war with Russia too.
    Ugh! This seems to be getting kind of complicated now.
    Anybody that has some ideas, feel free to chime in. I’m always open to ideas.


  • Japan has fallen too easily, I think. Coupled with a successful Sealion and very rich Germany, I see some change is necessary.
    Thank you for considering my ideas and asking for opinions.
    I like the possibility of reducing the US to 42, by stripping if of its overseas possessions, but think that should be the last alternative.
    I think taking away the Homeland NO and chopping off a couple or three of its TTs is a start.
    Russia has to be given 10 ground units, maybe even Mech and Tanks.
    I can’t remember if you changed the 18 Far East Inf to a mid of ground units. If not, that will help. There is no longer a Iapanese threat, so either making them all mechanised or moving 12 of them West will help.
    Can’t say much more: need to go work in the garden with my wife!
    Will think on it again. Good luck and great job Knp .

  • Customizer

    As for the 18 Russian infantry in the far east, Russia still gets them but I sort of spread them out. I put some on Soviet Far East, Siberia and Amur because of the strong US presence in Alaska. There are a few along the Chinese/Russian border in Central Asia because in this alternate history, since the Nationalist Chinese crushed the Chinese Communists, Russia now doesn’t trust China so they want to keep an eye on their borders.
    So I didn’t take any away from Russia, but I think you are right that maybe Russia needs some more. I was also thinking of putting a ship or two in SZ 5.


  • First off, a minor complaint: I love this idea so much, I found it rather difficult to focus on my work duties last Friday. But seriously, thank you for coming up with an awesome idea and laying the groundwork for it!

    After a good weekend of thinking (but not playtesting), I came up with several thoughts. Your original scenario seems grossly imbalanced, but that can be fixed. I particularly liked wittman’s idea to heat up South America. So, a shout-out also to CWO Marc for doing that research!

    I don’t mean to step on anyone’s toes, here. I just like this so much, I’m taking the ball and running with it!

    I’ll post the sheet I’ve been working on in a minute. If anyone has any questions like “Why did you choose ___,” or even “So does this mean ___,” I’d be happy to answer them! I also encourage any you to post any thoughts, critiques, or pointing out errors. Thanks!

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