13L G40.2 AllWeNeedIsLove vs Gamerman01 (Allies +8) game 3

[gamerman01]

OK, I think I know what I’m going to do…
Will start playing the USA turn soon

[gamerman01]

Losing 2/2 bombers to SBR’s is a joy killer

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round :8

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 3 artilleries, 1 fighter, 10 infantry and 4 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            2 submarines moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Anhwe to India
            1 bomber moved from Gibraltar to Southern France

Combat - Americans
            Strategic bombing raid in India
                1 bomber killed by AA guns
                Bombing raid in India causes 0 damage total.
            Strategic bombing raid in Southern France
                1 bomber killed by AA guns
                Bombing raid in Southern France causes 0 damage total.

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 submarine moved from 89 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 artillery moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 4 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
            2 aaGuns moved from Southeast Mexico to 89 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Central America to 89 Sea Zone
            2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 4 transports moved from 89 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 artillery moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 armour moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            3 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            2 aaGuns moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 aaGun, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 aaGun moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            2 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from Algeria to 92 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 bomber moved from Brazil to Gibraltar
            1 carrier moved from 64 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 92 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            2 fighters moved from 51 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 64 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 64 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 64 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier and 2 cruisers moved from 51 Sea Zone to 64 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers moved from 89 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 64 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 fighter moved from Southeast Mexico to Gibraltar
            1 fighter moved from Southeast Mexico to 92 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 fighter moved from 64 Sea Zone to Gibraltar

Place Units - Americans
            1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Western United States
            1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
            3 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone
            3 artilleries and 6 infantry placed in Eastern United States
            2 infantry placed in Central United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 43 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,6,2,4
            Americans collect 52 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 52 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 72 PUs

[boldfresh]

Snakes!  :x

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round :8

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            4 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsu
            1 fighter and 4 infantry moved from Anhwe to Jehol

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Kiangsu
                Chinese attack with 4 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Chinese win, taking Kiangsu from Japanese with 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Jehol
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 4 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Chinese win, taking Jehol from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 3 infantry

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Jehol to Chahar

Place Units - Chinese
            1 infantry placed in Hunan
            1 infantry placed in Kweichow
            1 infantry placed in Kwangsi
            2 infantry placed in Chahar

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 19 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,4,2,4,3,6
            Chinese collect 13 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 14 PUs total

[gamerman01]

@Boldfresh:

Snakes!   :x

At least I kept rolling them for my Chinese infantry  :-D

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round :8

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 2 artilleries, 5 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Chahar
            1 bomber moved from Eastern Persia to Rostov

Combat - British
            Battle in Rostov
                British attack with 1 bomber
                Italians defend with 1 fighter
                Italians win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for British: 1 bomber
                Casualties for Italians: 1 fighter

Non Combat Move - British
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Belgian Congo to Egypt
            1 armour moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo
            2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 71 Sea Zone
            4 fighters moved from Egypt to Algeria
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 71 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq
            1 destroyer moved from 77 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Algeria to Morocco
            1 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco
            1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Union of South Africa
            2 artilleries and 5 infantry placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs total

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific

[allweneedislove]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round :8

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
                  Italians take Northwest Persia from Russians
            1 armour moved from Samara to Kansu
                  Italians take Kansu from Chinese
            1 mech_infantry moved from Samara to Tsinghai
                  Italians take Tsinghai from Chinese
            1 armour moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
                  Italians take Szechwan from Chinese
            1 armour moved from Szechwan to Kweichow
            3 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
                  Italians take Tobruk from French

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Kweichow
                Italians attack with 1 armour
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Kweichow, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Kweichow, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kweichow
                Italians win, taking Kweichow from Chinese with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Battle in 97 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 3 fighters
                British defend with 1 submarine; Americans defend with 2 submarines
                2 submarines owned by the Americans and 1 submarine owned by the British Submerged

Non Combat Move - Italians
            3 fighters moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy

Place Units - Italians
            1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Southern Italy
            3 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 7
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,3,5,1,4,2
            Italians collect 19 PUs (7 lost to blockades); end with 19 PUs total
            Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 21 PUs

Territory Summary for Italians :

Yunnan : 1 flag
    Kweichow : 1 flag, 1 armour
    Kansu : 1 flag, 1 armour
    Tsinghai : 1 flag, 1 mech_infantry
    Szechwan : 1 flag
    Burma : 1 flag
    Alexandria : 1 flag
    Malta : 1 flag
    Normandy Bordeaux : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 13 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Southern France : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Tobruk : 2 artilleries and 6 infantry
    Northern Italy : 1 factory_major
    Southern Italy : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 3 fighters, 1 harbour, 12 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
    Rostov : 1 flag
    Bessarabia : 1 flag
    Western Ukraine : 1 flag
    Caucasus : 1 flag
    Samara : 1 flag
    Northwest Persia : 1 flag, 2 mech_infantrys

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 62 / 83
    Russians : 13 / 0
    Japanese : 42 / 51
    Americans : 56 / 72
    Chinese : 13 / 14
    British : 31 / 31
    UK_Pacific : 3 / 0
    Italians : 26 / 21
    ANZAC : 11 / 9
    French : 8 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round :8

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea
                  ANZAC take Dutch New Guinea from Dutch
            1 bomber moved from Caroline Islands to Western United States
            1 fighter moved from Borneo to Dutch New Guinea
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to South Australia
            1 aaGun moved from South Australia to Northern Territory
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from South Australia to Northern Territory

Place Units - ANZAC
            3 infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 11 PUs; end with 11 PUs total
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 16 PUs

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round :8

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria
            1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia

Turn Complete - French

[allweneedislove]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round :9

Politics - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans repair 6 damage on 6 factory_minors; Remaining resources: 77 PUs;
            Germans buy 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 7 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 mech_infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Suiyuyan
                  Germans take Suiyuyan from Chinese
            1 mech_infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Shensi
                  Germans take Shensi from Chinese
            1 armour moved from Kazakhstan to Sikang
                  Germans take Sikang from Chinese
            1 armour moved from Sikang to Kazakhstan
            1 armour moved from Novosibirsk to Turkmenistan
            1 infantry moved from Urals to Evenkiyskiy
                  Germans take Evenkiyskiy from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Urals to Timguska
                  Germans take Timguska from Russians
            1 artillery moved from Novosibirsk to Timguska
            1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Persia
                  Germans take Persia from Russians
            3 armour moved from Kazakhstan to Turkmenistan
            20 mech_infantrys moved from Kazakhstan to Turkmenistan
            1 armour moved from Kazakhstan to Turkmenistan
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Kazakhstan to Turkmenistan
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Turkmenistan
            1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Kazakhstan to Turkmenistan
            6 mech_infantrys moved from Kazakhstan to Turkmenistan
            4 bombers and 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 113 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 113 Sea Zone
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone

Combat - Germans
            Battle in 113 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 4 bombers, 6 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
                1 submarine owned by the Russians Submerged
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 113 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 cruiser owned by the Russians lost in 113 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 4 bombers, 6 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Russians: 1 cruiser
            Battle in Turkmenistan
                Germans attack with 7 armour and 32 mech_infantrys
                Russians defend with 6 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 7 armour and 32 mech_infantrys in Turkmenistan, round 1 :  7/39 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 6 infantry in Turkmenistan, round 1 :  0/6 hits
                    6 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Turkmenistan
                Germans win, taking Turkmenistan from Russians with 7 armour and 32 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
                Casualties for Russians: 6 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 armour moved from Kazakhstan to Northwest Persia
            16 artilleries, 19 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Caucasus
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Caucasus
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Rostov
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Bryansk
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            4 bombers moved from 113 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            6 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
            6 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers moved from Alexandria to Southern Italy

Place Units - Germans
            3 armour placed in Volgograd
            3 armour placed in Ukraine
            3 artilleries and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
            3 infantry placed in France
            4 infantry placed in Western Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 7
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 125 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 80 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,3,3,2,6,3
            Germans collect 62 PUs (7 lost to blockades); end with 62 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs
            Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 69 PUs
            Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 89 PUs

Territory Summary for Germans :

Shensi : 1 flag, 1 mech_infantry
    Suiyuyan : 1 flag, 1 mech_infantry
    Sikang : 1 flag
    Evenkiyskiy : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Timguska : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Kazakhstan : 1 flag, 1 armour
    Normandy Bordeaux : 1 aaGun
    France : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 3 infantry
    Western Germany : 1 airfield, 3 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 6 fighters, 1 harbour, 10 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
    Romania : 1 mech_infantry
    Germany : 1 factory_major
    Tobruk : 1 infantry
    Southern Italy : 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery, 4 bombers, 6 fighters, 7 infantry and 6 tactical_bombers
    Belarus : 1 flag
    Karelia : 1 flag
    Baltic States : 1 flag
    Bryansk : 1 flag, 3 mech_infantrys
    Rostov : 3 mech_infantrys
    Nenetsia : 1 flag
    Urals : 1 flag
    Vyborg : 1 flag
    Archangel : 1 flag
    Eastern Poland : 1 flag
    Russia : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 factory_minor
    Tambov : 1 flag
    Ukraine : 1 flag, 3 armour and 1 factory_minor
    Novosibirsk : 1 flag
    Vologda : 1 flag
    Volgograd : 1 flag, 3 armour and 1 factory_minor
    Turkmenistan : 1 flag, 7 armour and 32 mech_infantrys
    Novgorod : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Caucasus : 6 mech_infantrys
    Smolensk : 1 flag
    112 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    113 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    Bulgaria : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Greece : 1 flag
    Northwest Persia : 1 armour, 16 artilleries, 19 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
    Persia : 1 flag, 1 mech_infantry
    Yugoslavia : 1 flag
    Finland : 1 flag, 3 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 69 / 89
    Russians : 9 / 0
    Japanese : 42 / 51
    Americans : 56 / 72
    Chinese : 10 / 14
    British : 31 / 31
    UK_Pacific : 3 / 0
    Italians : 26 / 21
    ANZAC : 11 / 16
    French : 8 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[allweneedislove]

i submerged your sub in sz113. please feel free to roll for it if you like. you can roll for it up to 4 rounds. after that i will submerge my sub.

[gamerman01]

@allweneedislove:

i submerged your sub in sz113. please feel free to roll for it if you like. you can roll for it up to 4 rounds. after that i will submerge my sub.

I’m confused.  Are you saying to re-roll?  Your sub hit in the first round.

Of course I would have had my sub fight - it can’t do anything, and by fighting it gives the cruiser a shot if your sub hits.

Shouldn’t you re-roll the battle since I want my sub to fight?

[gamerman01]

I mean, since you said your sub would fight for 4 rounds, I think that means you are not considering your first round sub hit to be hitting my sub…

Why don’t you just re-roll the 113 battle on the forum, but this time having my sub fight.

[allweneedislove]

i think the most appropriate thing to do would be to keep my sub roll and you can assign if you want it to hit the sub or the cruiser. after that we roll the surviving unit.

however, since i am in the wrong we can do whatever you like. please feel free to roll this battle via the forum. or at least the first round of it.

my roll for 4 rounds comment was assuming you would lose the cruiser and then it would be sub on sub. and i would attack for 4 rounds and if no one hit i would submerge.

[gamerman01]

Well I wouldn’t strongly disagree with keeping your sub hit, except your policy has always been that if your opponent disagrees with your choice, you re-roll.  Seems to me you would be inconsistent to keep that sub hit now.

You said in your second sentence that we can do whatever I like, so in keeping with your own stated policy, we will re-roll because you made the wrong decision for me.

Subs
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (3)Rolls: 1@1; Total Hits: 01@1: (4)

[gamerman01]

Rest
Rolls: 6@3 5@4; Total Hits: 66@3: (5, 1, 3, 2, 4, 1)5@4: (3, 5, 4, 5, 6)Rolls: 1@3; Total Hits: 01@3: (5)

[gamerman01]

OK, now we are in the same place as before, but you have the option of pressing the attack on the sub.
My Russian sub will not submerge, so attack it as many rounds as you like.

I will proceed with the Russian turn since this 113 resolution is independent of it.

[gamerman01]

And I’m ready for you to stop being so charmed with these dice any time now!
Remember - that’s a compliment.

[allweneedislove]

after a second thought this might have been the most appropriate fix. i think all rolls upto the mistake should stand and then reroll ALL dice after the mistake.

the mistake i made was at the beginning. so i guess it was right to reroll the whole battle.

so here comes the 4 rounds of sub on sub action.

attacker
Rolls: 4@2; Total Hits: 24@2: (6, 1, 6, 1)

defender
Rolls: 4@1; Total Hits: 04@1: (2, 3, 2, 3)