Transatlantic Alliance: Global 40 TripleA Test Game #1

[Panther]

So Veqryn answered here:

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=26989.msg953473#msg953473

So we should update the map.

What do you think?
Either continue with the 2.6 savegame, that means we cannot profit from the updates -
or start again and profit from the updates?

:-)

[Panther]

The updates/fixes are:

2.7
-Fixing Strategic Bombers so that they add +2 damage onto raids.
-Allowed USA to go to war if Japan declares war on ANZAC / UK.
-Added one missing UK infantry to Egypt.
-Dropped price of Cruisers to 9, when you have shipyards tech.

I already added the missing Infantry before. As we did not consider technology I suppose we play without it.
This leaves the first two points for us.

[Guest]

@P@nther:

The updates/fixes are:

2.7
-Fixing Strategic Bombers so that they add +2 damage onto raids.
-Allowed USA to go to war if Japan declares war on ANZAC / UK.
-Added one missing UK infantry to Egypt.
-Dropped price of Cruisers to 9, when you have shipyards tech.

I already added the missing Infantry before. As we did not consider technology I suppose we play without it.
This leaves the first two points for us.

Yeah, I got the same message. I have updated. I agree with no technology. Seems like it will all work now  :-)

[Guest]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.6

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            Giving bonus movement to units

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 artillery moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Central United States to Hawaiian Islands
            1 fighter moved from Philippines to Guam
            1 artillery moved from Eastern United States to Central United States
            1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Central United States
            1 infantry moved from Central United States to Western United States
            1 armour moved from Central United States to Western United States

Place Units - Americans
            2 carriers and 1 destroyer placed in 10 Sea Zone
            Americans undo move 1.
            2 carriers and 1 destroyer placed in 10 Sea Zone
            2 submarines placed in 101 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs total

Territory Summary for Americans :

Philippines : 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    Guam : 1 airfield and 1 fighter
    Wake Island : 1 airfield
    Western United States : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Hawaiian Islands : 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 harbour and 3 infantry
    Midway : 1 airfield
    26 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 transports
    10 Sea Zone : 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
    54 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
    Central United States : 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
    Eastern United States : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    101 Sea Zone : 1 cruiser, 2 submarines and 1 transport

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 41 / 70
    Russians : 37 / 37
    Japanese : 32 / 32
    Americans : 52 / 52
    Chinese : 8 / 12
    British : 28 / 28
    UK_Pacific : 17 / 17
    Italians : 10 / 10
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 11 / 0
    Dutch : 11 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 6 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[Guest]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 2.6

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: games.strategy.engine.data.ProductionFrontier called productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            Giving bonus movement to units
            6 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
            2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Yunnan

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Yunnan
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 8 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 8 infantry in Yunnan, round 1 :  0/9 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 7 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 :  3/8 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Japanese , 1 infantry owned by the Chinese and 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
                Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 6 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
                Chinese win with 1 fighter and 6 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Recording Battle Statistics

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Szechwan

Place Units - Chinese
            4 infantry placed in Szechwan

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 9 PUs total
            Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 15 PUs

Territory Summary for Chinese :

Shensi : 3 infantry
    Yunnan : 6 infantry
    Szechwan : 1 fighter and 4 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 41 / 70
    Russians : 37 / 37
    Japanese : 31 / 32
    Americans : 52 / 52
    Chinese : 9 / 15
    British : 28 / 28
    UK_Pacific : 17 / 17
    Italians : 10 / 10
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 11 / 0
    Dutch : 11 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 6 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[Guest]

Hey P@nther….I see you moved into French Indo-China. Do you realize by doing so, you gave up the 10 IPC NO Japan gets for not declaring war on the US/UK/Anzac/French?

[Guest]

I am attacking sz97, so I will need scramble orders. Here is a copy of the map before any attack rolls.

[Guest]

If you do not scramble, I assume the order of loss is damage battleship, cruiser, then battleship.

If you do scramble, would you like the cruiser to be sunk before the fighters are shot down?

[Guest]

I will look at this in the morning before I go to work and post if you have replied.

[Panther]

@Ol’:

@P@nther:

The updates/fixes are:

2.7
-Fixing Strategic Bombers so that they add +2 damage onto raids.
-Allowed USA to go to war if Japan declares war on ANZAC / UK.
-Added one missing UK infantry to Egypt.
-Dropped price of Cruisers to 9, when you have shipyards tech.

I already added the missing Infantry before. As we did not consider technology I suppose we play without it.
This leaves the first two points for us.

Yeah, I got the same message. I have updated. I agree with no technology. Seems like it will all work now  :-)

As we continue playing with the savegames started with map version 2.6
the updates of 2.7 have no effects on our current game. You can see this in the first line of the turn post. It is still 2.6 although you updated the map.
That is why I asked you to eventually restart the game - then playing 2.7.

So we have to manually change stratbombing still. I don’t know how the US declare war-issue may affect our game.

[Panther]

@Ol’:

Hey P@nther….I see you moved into French Indo-China. Do you realize by doing so, you gave up the 10 IPC NO Japan gets for not declaring war on the US/UK/Anzac/French?

Ouch…I did not realize that, thank you for pointing this out to me. After rereading the NO’s in Alpha 3 I see what you mean. I would of course not have done this.
Can you please edit this?
If not it is the price for me for learning.
;-)

[Panther]

@Ol’:

If you do not scramble, I assume the order of loss is damage battleship, cruiser, then battleship.

If you do scramble, would you like the cruiser to be sunk before the fighters are shot down?

I’m already on my way to work and posting via my smartphone.
Can you please describe the situation: Which Seazone, Attackers, Defenders and units that may scramble from where?
I will answer then as soon as possible.

[Panther]

@Ol’:

I will look at this in the morning before I go to work and post if you have replied.

What timezone are you living in?
Mine is UTC+02:00

Maybe I can manage to “synchronize” my moves better when knowing your timezone.
:-)

[Guest]

@P@nther:

@Ol’:

@P@nther:

The updates/fixes are:

2.7
-Fixing Strategic Bombers so that they add +2 damage onto raids.
-Allowed USA to go to war if Japan declares war on ANZAC / UK.
-Added one missing UK infantry to Egypt.
-Dropped price of Cruisers to 9, when you have shipyards tech.

I already added the missing Infantry before. As we did not consider technology I suppose we play without it.
This leaves the first two points for us.

Yeah, I got the same message. I have updated. I agree with no technology. Seems like it will all work now  :-)

As we continue playing with the savegames started with map version 2.6
the updates of 2.7 have no effects on our current game. You can see this in the first line of the turn post. It is still 2.6 although you updated the map.
That is why I asked you to eventually restart the game - then playing 2.7.

So we have to manually change stratbombing still. I don’t know how the US declare war-issue may affect our game.

Sounds like a good idea to me. We can restart and that way the strat bombing will be taken care of as well as no attack by Japan in FIC

[Guest]

After looking on Wikipedia, I believe I am UTC-5:00….it is Eastern Standard time zone in the US

[Guest]

If you do want to restart and you do the same attack with Germany, there will be no scrambling

[Panther]

I’m fine with restarting.

I will do the same attack on G1 when I’m back home this evening.

So time here at my place is seven hours ahead - good to know!
:-)

I will use the same thread (this one) when restarting.

[Panther]

… and I won’t invade FIC this time!

;-)

[Guest]

@P@nther:

… and I won’t invade FIC this time!

;-)

LOL…you are more than welcome too  :-D

[Panther]

Restarting with Map 2.7 in a few minutes!