@cds I guess it’s ok to play with LL. I’ve never played that way before so it may be interesting to see how it goes.
Adam514 (Axis) vs ksmckay (Allies) Pat to Victory
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 2
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - AmericansCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@ksmckay Woops, you can just take the Japanese save upload.
Yeah odds aren’t too great if you max it. We added an inf to UK, that might need to be removed.
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yeah the flight path changes made a G2 sea lion threat non existent, and sea lion in BM3 never seemed like a great idea if UK didnt waste air in Round 1, so I figured why not. But I have zero clue how it plays out in this version.
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@ksmckay It’s not that different. But factory and airfield purchase should always be punished with a Sealion if Japan hasn’t declared war.
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yeah, limited experience on my part. havent seen a carrier buy with germany for a while, but with the bb and carrier, makes a big difference it seems. Used to buy 4 inf on UK1 and I guess thats why.
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feel free to wait for the map, but I will be attacking Sco with 1 inf 3 ftrs 1 bom. Will you scramble ftr to Sco? and OOL if one or two hits? As I said, feel free to wait for the rest of things if you need/want to see other info.
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meh, ill send 2 inf.
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argh. lets just wait.
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@ksmckay Wait for what?
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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 2
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to 91 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 11 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 31 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Wake Island to 31 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Hawaiian Islands to 28 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 28 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 28 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 1 mech_infantry moved from 31 Sea Zone to Johnston Island 1 bomber moved from Western United States to Eastern United States 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 2 submarines moved from 55 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 2 submarines placed in 11 Sea Zone 1 transport placed in 104 Sea Zone 1 carrier placed in 104 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Eastern United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 53 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 3 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Inner Mongolia 1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Honan Combat - Chinese Battle in Inner Mongolia Chinese attack with 3 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Inner Mongolia Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 5 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Inner Mongolia 1 infantry owned by the Chinese retreated to Tsinghai Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6 Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Battle in Honan Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Honan, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Honan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Honan, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Honan, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Honan Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Honan, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Honan, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Honan Chinese win, taking Honan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Honan to Tsinghai Place Units - Chinese 4 infantry placed in Tsinghai Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 6 PUs; end with 8 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 artillery and 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan 1 fighter moved from Egypt to Kenya 2 infantry moved from Southern Persia to 82 Sea Zone 1 cruiser, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 82 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 74 Sea Zone to Kenya 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Tanganyika Territory to Kenya 1 armour moved from Egypt to Alexandria British take Alexandria from Italians 1 armour moved from Alexandria to Egypt 1 infantry moved from Shan State to French Indo China UK_Pacific take French Indo China from Neutral_Axis Combat - British Battle in Anglo-Egyptian Sudan British attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Italians defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Anglo-Egyptian Sudan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Anglo-Egyptian Sudan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Anglo-Egyptian Sudan British win, taking Anglo-Egyptian Sudan from Italians with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Battle in Kenya British attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Italians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry British roll dice for 1 cruiser in Kenya, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits British roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kenya, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Kenya, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Kenya British roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kenya, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 artillery in Kenya, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Italians lost in Kenya British win, taking Kenya from Italians with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10 Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Non Combat Move - British 2 fighters moved from Kenya to Egypt 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kenya to Egypt 2 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo 1 destroyer moved from 78 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Shan State to Burma 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma 1 fighter moved from Burma to Eastern India 1 battleship moved from 55 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 94 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 fighter moved from 94 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 94 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 carrier, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer moved from 94 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Quebec to United Kingdom 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Quebec to 109 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Gibraltar to United Kingdom 1 infantry moved from Southern Persia to Northeast Persia British take Northeast Persia from Neutral_Allies Place Units - British 10 infantry placed in United Kingdom 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Egypt Turn Complete - British British collect 29 PUs; end with 29 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 32 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 35 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 6 infantry placed in Eastern India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 19 PUs; end with 19 PUs Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 6 infantryCombat Hit Differential Summary :
British : -0.17 Italians : -1.67 Chinese : -2.83 Japanese : 0.67 -
@Adam514 said in Adam514 (Axis) vs ksmckay (Allies) Pat to Victory:
@ksmckay Wait for what?
I had asked for scramble orders but changed my mind.
I dont know what the allies are supposed to do in pacific. 55 was barely safe after round 1, maybe its crazy for japan to attack it, but with any less units it seems like it would be tempting (for example if I kept the bb at india), and then I couldnt come close to positioning the US fleet anywhere useful. And then everything is completely out of position in round 2. Am i missing something or was setup designed to keep allies back after round 2? Seems like you will be able to take almost every target in pac without opposition and I couldnt figure out what to do? Guess that is the price of sending some units to europe but without those units seems like Egypt was undefendable (without the mIC, which also looks to be a mistake).
Very different.
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@ksmckay said in Adam514 (Axis) vs ksmckay (Allies) Pat to Victory:
@Adam514 said in Adam514 (Axis) vs ksmckay (Allies) Pat to Victory:
@ksmckay Wait for what?
I had asked for scramble orders but changed my mind.
I dont know what the allies are supposed to do in pacific. 55 was barely safe after round 1, maybe its crazy for japan to attack it, but with any less units it seems like it would be tempting (for example if I kept the bb at india), and then I couldnt come close to positioning the US fleet anywhere useful. And then everything is completely out of position in round 2. Am i missing something or was setup designed to keep allies back after round 2? Seems like you will be able to take almost every target in pac without opposition and I couldnt figure out what to do? Guess that is the price of sending some units to europe but without those units seems like Egypt was undefendable (without the mIC, which also looks to be a mistake).
Very different.
exact kind of dilemmas I was facing! Japan was just such a bear to deal with, I couldn’t touch it with a ten foot pole it felt like
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I setup to apply some pressure to Caro, but I dont really think its near enough. With no threats to any units, you can just defend Caro and leave the 8 transports undefended.
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@Adam514 might make a ncm change for UK, hold please
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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 2
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to 91 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 11 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 31 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Wake Island to 31 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Hawaiian Islands to 28 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 28 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 28 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 1 mech_infantry moved from 31 Sea Zone to Johnston Island 1 bomber moved from Western United States to Eastern United States 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 2 submarines moved from 55 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 2 submarines placed in 11 Sea Zone 1 transport placed in 104 Sea Zone 1 carrier placed in 104 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Eastern United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 53 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 3 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Inner Mongolia 1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Honan Combat - Chinese Battle in Inner Mongolia Chinese attack with 3 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Inner Mongolia Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 5 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Inner Mongolia 1 infantry owned by the Chinese retreated to Tsinghai Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6 Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Battle in Honan Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Honan, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Honan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Honan, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Honan, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Honan Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Honan, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Honan, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Honan Chinese win, taking Honan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Honan to Tsinghai Place Units - Chinese 4 infantry placed in Tsinghai Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 6 PUs; end with 8 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 artillery and 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan 1 fighter moved from Egypt to Kenya 2 infantry moved from Southern Persia to 82 Sea Zone 1 cruiser, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 82 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 74 Sea Zone to Kenya 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Tanganyika Territory to Kenya 1 armour moved from Egypt to Alexandria British take Alexandria from Italians 1 armour moved from Alexandria to Egypt 1 infantry moved from Shan State to French Indo China UK_Pacific take French Indo China from Neutral_Axis Combat - British Battle in Anglo-Egyptian Sudan British attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Italians defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Anglo-Egyptian Sudan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Anglo-Egyptian Sudan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Anglo-Egyptian Sudan British win, taking Anglo-Egyptian Sudan from Italians with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Battle in Kenya British attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Italians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry British roll dice for 1 cruiser in Kenya, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits British roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kenya, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Kenya, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Kenya British roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kenya, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 artillery in Kenya, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Italians lost in Kenya British win, taking Kenya from Italians with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10 Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Non Combat Move - British 2 fighters moved from Kenya to Egypt 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kenya to Egypt 2 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo 1 destroyer moved from 78 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Shan State to Burma 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma 1 fighter moved from Burma to Eastern India 1 battleship moved from 55 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 94 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 fighter moved from 94 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 94 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 carrier, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer moved from 94 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Quebec to United Kingdom 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Quebec to 109 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Gibraltar to United Kingdom 1 infantry moved from Southern Persia to Northeast Persia British take Northeast Persia from Neutral_Allies 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan Place Units - British 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Egypt 10 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 29 PUs; end with 29 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 32 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 35 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 6 infantry placed in Eastern India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 19 PUs; end with 19 PUs Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 6 infantryCombat Hit Differential Summary :
British : -0.17 Italians : -1.67 Chinese : -2.83 Japanese : 0.67 -
China and Russia are stronger in this game, Russia should have a bigger hand to play in how things play out in the Pacific. Japan also starts with a few less air, so they can’t keep buying carriers for as long as in G40.
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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 2
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 1.0
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 2 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Crete 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria Italians take Alexandria from British Combat - Italians Battle in Crete Non Combat Move - Italians 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia Italians take Tunisia from Neutral_Axis 1 marine moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 1 marine moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 100 Sea Zone to Alexandria 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Yugoslavia to 99 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Alexandria 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania 1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Slovakia Hungary 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Greece to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Slovakia Hungary 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Slovakia Hungary 1 destroyer moved from 99 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone Place Units - Italians 2 infantry placed in Northern Italy 1 transport placed in 99 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 13 PUs; end with 15 PUs Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 20 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@Adam514 I thought about dow on Japan with UK. could have taken out a unit or two and gotten some extra income for UK and Anzac. I would never do something like that in BM3 unless there were really nice fleet targets in play because it makes things so easy on Japan on J3 as well as delays US in atlantic. But in this case it seems like US wont be able to do anything useful in pacific anyway. It would delay US in atlantic if you decided to go for a g4 sea lion I suppose but you could decide to do that anyway.
Any thoughts?
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@ksmckay I was expecting a DOW on Japan since Germany seems to be going for a G3 Sealion and US would be brought into the war on US3 anyway. I would declare war on Japan in BM3 as the UK/Anzac to kill a few units and get more income for sure with a Sealion in play.
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@ksmckay Initially I thought it was a calculated move to put the US in the main Hawaii sea zone while being greedy with UK, so that the Axis need to choose between Sealion and Pearl Harbor. I would have chosen Sealion, so your US fleet would have gotten away with it and could have stacked the Queensland sea zone this round, but you retreated to the other side of Hawaii instead, putting the US out of range of most important targets on future rounds.
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