the file opens fine so i will roll tomorrow. thanks for the fix
13L G40 JWW axis v Wheatbeer (+10) allies
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so S.ITA is taken w/out loss and the naval battle each side loses three. ss, ss & dd for the allies, and tilt BB, tilt cv & loss of dd for ita…
2nd round ita attacks w/16 therefore 2hits plus the need to roll 1-4 for a third hit, which I will roll here:
Rolls: 1@4; Total Hits: 11@4: (2)& the allies D equals 13 or two hits plus the need to roll a 1 for a third hit which I will roll here.Rolls: 1@1; Total Hits: 01@1: (4) -
The allies will then lose the CR & 2 fgt, since they have no where to land the fgt’s if the cv is hit.
Ita will lose a fgt and cv.
the 3rd wave of the attack would have the ita BB, fgt & 2 CR which equals 13, so therefore they have two hits and sink the allies fleet.
The allies have the cv and need a 1-2 to score a hit which I will roll here
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (5) -
That’s not the best OOL
I would sink the carrier and lose 1 fighter
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Still a miss anyways :lol:
But better to risk one plane dying and get a roll @3 than ensure both planes die and get a roll @2
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I think I did that correctly?
I will send an updated map & I hope I don’t rue the day I made this decision.
do you feel I should have selected my losses differently? I struggled with the decision to lose the cv? I just was afraid to get diced….
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Still a miss anyways :lol:
But better to risk one plane dying and get a roll @3 than ensure both planes die and get a roll @2
but if that was the case I would have retreated and the fgt’s would have been destroyed anyway, right?
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actually, I would have had two rolls, the cruiser and fighter … Italy can retreat, in which case, the surviving fighter falls in the ocean and my cruiser survives (to take a pot shot at the Germans)
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Saving the Allied carrier makes no sense to me because it’s weaker defense if Italy presses the attack for round 3 and also weaker defense against Germany if Italy retreats.
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the new file
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Tilting my carrier and losing 2 fighters would also have been a better OOL than sinking the cruiser and both fighters.
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so in the second round you would have lost the cv & a fgt and saved the CR & fgt…… but actually losing it because I would have then retreated w/CV, BB, 2cr & fgt? right, I need to check again.
I guess this goes to show ME, that I must ask for my opponents to select their casualties and not assume anything.
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Tilting my carrier and losing 2 fighters would also have been a better OOL than sinking the cruiser and both fighters.
really? So tilt the cv in rd 1 or rd 2?
sorry just tell me what you want me to do.
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tilt cv and lose 2 fighters for my round 2 casualties
At the end of round two the Allies have a tilted carrier and a cruiser left.
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so I will put the cr back and the trn’s for you……and I would then still lose two units in the last phase of combat and therefore, retreating, I would lose both fgt’s and save the cv…
you will get your “pot shot” at the german planes…
I was wondering if you agreed with my loses, when I asked, not yours. I wouldn’t have thought that you would want the allied OOL to go that way but I can see why that makes sense playing LL.
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tilt cv and lose 2 fighters for my round 2 casualties
At the end of round two the Allies have a tilted carrier and a cruiser left.
GOT it, sorry I made this so complicated….
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so basically you would have a CR to roll for in the last round since we already rolled for the cv and missed……so if we proceed with the last round attack you are owed a 1-3 defensive dice…correct?
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@JWW:
so basically you would have a CR to roll for in the last round since we already rolled for the cv and missed……so if we proceed with the last round attack you are owed a 1-3 defensive dice…correct?
no, I fcuked this up to….you have a 5 to hit one unit…which is what you rolled so therefore I need to lose a unit and sink the fleet or leave the tilted cv & cr and trn’s in the sea zone…
I consider myself an intelligent person but this has me a bit confused. i think I have it right now…
ask for OOL, always
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Ok, I am just going to lose the other ITA fgt and put an end to this. the allied navy is gone and the ita navy lost 2fgt’s, cv, dd & tiled a BB.
use this file.
thanks for the lesson and very gracious offer of the LL option. I owe you one too……oh no…
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You can reroll the last die since it’s not fair for me to have seen it ahead of time. Not a good chance to avoid the hit, but you might.
I admit I’m more picky about OOL than most players here.
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Also, might be a silly moment to mention :lol: , but in low luck, submarines are rolled separately. Both because they can get surprise attacks (Italy might have) and because it will affect what units are allowable casualties.
I didn’t even think about that until now … it actually makes low luck potentially more erratic in small-to-medium sized naval battles like this.
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