13L G40 JWW axis v Wheatbeer (+10) allies

[666]

@wheatbeer:

need scramble orders SZ95

wow, you are going into southern italy now……Do you have a good chance here? Are you on tilt??

[wheatbeer]

http://www.dskelly.com/misc/aa/aasim.html

It’s a great sim, though unlike aacalc, you can’t do 1/2/3 round odds, only full battle runs.

[wheatbeer]

I think the odds of UK victory are in the upper 50s … would have been higher if US took NITA since the UK could have brought 3 additional planes.

[wheatbeer]

Estimated wrong … UK odds of taking Rome are 49.4% (assuming max defense OOL, i.e. aa, then strat, then inf)

[666]

@wheatbeer:

need scramble orders SZ95

no scramble

[666]

@wheatbeer:

Estimated wrong … UK odds of taking Rome are 49.4% (assuming max defense OOL, i.e. aa, then strat, then inf)

yes please use max D for Rome. Hit with those AA guns again, please

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :6

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Egypt to 81 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to 81 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 2 artilleries, 3 infantry and 3 transports moved from 81 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from 95 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to Southern Italy
            1 bomber moved from Gibraltar to Southern Italy
            1 cruiser moved from 81 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 95 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from India to Burma
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Burma
            1 armour moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 95 Sea Zone to Southern Italy

Combat - British
            Battle in Southern Italy
                British attack with 2 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber; Italians defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 9 infantry
                    AA guns fire in Southern Italy :  1/3 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the British lost in Southern Italy
                    British roll dice for 1 cruiser in Southern Italy, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    British roll dice for 2 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 bomber, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Southern Italy, round 1 :  7/11 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 9 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Southern Italy, round 1 :  4/13 hits
                    4 infantry owned by the British , 1 aaGun owned by the Italians , 1 bomber owned by the Germans , 1 bomber owned by the Italians and 4 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Southern Italy
                    British roll dice for 2 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber in Southern Italy, round 2 :  3/7 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Southern Italy, round 2 :  3/7 hits
                    3 artilleries owned by the British and 3 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Southern Italy
                    British roll dice for 2 armour, 1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber in Southern Italy, round 3 :  3/4 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Southern Italy, round 3 :  2/4 hits
                    1 tactical_bomber owned by the British , 1 armour owned by the British , 1 artillery owned by the Italians and 2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Southern Italy
                    British roll dice for 1 armour and 1 bomber in Southern Italy, round 4 :  1/2 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 tactical_bomber in Southern Italy, round 4 :  0/1 hits
                    1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans lost in Southern Italy
                British captures 31PUs while taking Italians capital
                British win, taking Southern Italy from Italians with 1 armour and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20
                Casualties for Germans: 1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for British: 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for Italians: 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 9 infantry
            Battle in Burma
                British attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Burma, round 1 :  0/4 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Burma, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Burma, round 2 :  1/4 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Burma, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Burma
                British win, taking Burma from Japanese with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Tunisia
            1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 2 fighters moved from 81 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from 95 Sea Zone to Tunisia
            1 fighter moved from Trans-Jordan to Tunisia
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to India
            1 aaGun, 5 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt

Place Units - British
            3 infantry placed in Egypt
            1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Persia
            1 destroyer placed in 106 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - British
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,1,6,1,1,5,3,3
            British collect 30 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 61 PUs total
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            2 infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs; end with 7 PUs total
            Some Units in India change ownership: 2 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 40 / 50
    Russians : 23 / 34
    Japanese : 64 / 65
    Americans : 54 / 74
    Chinese : 0 / 2
    British : 33 / 66
    UK_Pacific : 6 / 7
    Italians : 20 / 0
    ANZAC : 16 / 23
    French : 9 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[wheatbeer]

Had the US captured NITA, Italy and Germany wouldn’t have been able to liberate Rome on I6 or G7 … that would have been something.

Still, could have gone far far worse  :lol:

[666]

@wheatbeer:

Had the US captured NITA, Italy and Germany wouldn’t have been able to liberate Rome on I6 or G7 … that would have been something.

Still, could have gone far far worse  :lol:

you are right. that first round attack with the brits won it for you. 7-11 hits. so many vairiables there. the usa fleet battle was super close, the brit bmb vs the ita dd, s.ita and n.ita were all close battles…I didn’t think you would go for s.ita… :-o

[666]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :6

Combat Move - Italians
            2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
            1 artillery moved from Ukraine to Rostov
            1 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda
                  Italians take Vologda from Russians
            1 armour moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
                  Italians take Bryansk from Russians
            1 armour moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            1 fighter moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            2 cruisers moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 destroyer moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone

[666]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :6

Combat Move - Italians
            2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
            1 artillery moved from Ukraine to Rostov
            1 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda
                  Italians take Vologda from Russians
            1 armour moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
                  Italians take Bryansk from Russians
            1 armour moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            1 fighter moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            2 cruisers moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 destroyer moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone

Combat - Italians
            Battle in 95 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                British defend with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 4 transports; Americans defend with 2 submarines and 3 transports
                    British roll dice for 2 submarines in 95 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 95 Sea Zone, round 1 :  2/5 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 7 transports in 95 Sea Zone, round 1 :  2/5 hits
                Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Italians and 1 battleship owned by the Italians
                    2 submarines owned by the Americans lost in 95 Sea Zone
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 95 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/5 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 7 transports in 95 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/5 hits
                    1 carrier owned by the Italians lost in 95 Sea Zone
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 95 Sea Zone, round 3 :  2/5 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 7 transports in 95 Sea Zone, round 3 :  4/5 hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Italians , 1 fighter owned by the Italians , 1 fighter owned by the British , 2 cruisers owned by the Italians and 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 95 Sea Zone
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship in 95 Sea Zone, round 4 :  1/1 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 fighter and 7 transports in 95 Sea Zone, round 4 :  2/3 hits
                    1 cruiser owned by the British and 1 battleship owned by the Italians lost in 95 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 7 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is -36
                Casualties for British: 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                Casualties for Americans: 2 submarines
            Battle in Southern Italy
                Italians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                British defend with 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
                    Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Southern Italy, round 1 :  0/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 armour in Southern Italy, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Southern Italy, round 2 :  2/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 armour in Southern Italy, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 armour owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Southern Italy
                Italians win, taking Southern Italy from British with 1 artillery and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 armour
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Rostov
                Italians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Rostov, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Rostov, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Rostov
                Italians win, taking Rostov from Russians with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Romania
            2 armour moved from Ukraine to Romania

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 27 PUs; end with 27 PUs total

Territory Summary for Italians :

Normandy Bordeaux : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Southern France : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Romania : 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry
    Northern Italy : 1 factory_major and 1 fighter
    Southern Italy : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Belarus : 1 flag
    Bryansk : 1 flag
    Rostov : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Archangel : 1 flag
    Eastern Poland : 1 flag
    Bessarabia : 1 flag, 1 artillery
    Ukraine : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 1 factory_minor and 3 infantry
    Vologda : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Bulgaria : 1 flag
    Greece : 1 flag
    97 Sea Zone : 3 transports
    Yugoslavia : 1 flag

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 40 / 50
    Russians : 19 / 34
    Japanese : 64 / 65
    Americans : 54 / 74
    Chinese : 0 / 2
    British : 30 / 66
    UK_Pacific : 6 / 7
    Italians : 27 / 27
    ANZAC : 16 / 23
    French : 9 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 7 times
            2 was rolled 6 times
            3 was rolled 8 times
            4 was rolled 9 times
            5 was rolled 8 times
            6 was rolled 10 times
        Average roll : 3.729
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 0.213
        Standard Deviation : 0.461
        Total rolls : 48

Russians Combat
            2 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 2.000
        Median : 2.000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

British Combat
            1 was rolled 4 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 5 times
            4 was rolled 2 times
            5 was rolled 4 times
            6 was rolled 6 times
        Average roll : 3.864
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 0.952
        Standard Deviation : 0.976
        Total rolls : 22

Italians Combat
            1 was rolled 3 times
            2 was rolled 4 times
            3 was rolled 3 times
            4 was rolled 7 times
            5 was rolled 4 times
            6 was rolled 4 times
        Average roll : 3.680
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 0.458
        Standard Deviation : 0.677
        Total rolls : 25

[666]

awful dice for Italy on the counter attack. I would be happy to re-roll….

in fact I forgot to change my Italy inf, in n.ita from ger to ita. and then I wouldn’t had brought my fgt into the s.ita attack…auggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I am an idiot.

[666]

I did an ool for you based on what I would have done. assumed you would fly the French fgt onto the cv, therefore I kept the cv from harm, also you had no where to land the your fgt’s if you took the hit.

I should have had an extra fgt in that attack from the beginning.

I continue to miss the small details, in all games, it seems. I should have attacked s.ita w/4inf & art vs the arm.

it is amazing how the small details matter. I should have changed those troops right when you offered.

[666]

really upsetting…I don’t think I could have fcuked that up worse. I should have gotten out of that fight w/three hits on your navy and then retreated with the two hits and saved my entire navy. Then, regardless of your French fgt support, I could have mopped up with the 5 ger fgt’s…

kept my navy and you would have lost yours. now my best bet is to hope to get to your navy with my fgt’s but without the entire ita navy…augghhhhh, real disgusted.

very, very upset with myself…and I am not even drinking!!!

[666]

I think I have said this 5-6 times this year, I keep snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. The worse one was a game against karl where I had him down and out and then I dow on Mongolia because I had nothing better to do with japan, not knowing that all the neutrals would turn pro allies…

3 turns later Spain and turkey were American and british and german fell like a house of cards…this is almost as bad.

[wheatbeer]

You can redo Italy on low luck if you like as well as change the Germans to Italians, so long as you grant me a low luck turn or battle do-over in the future (either in this game or in a league rematch, assuming you want a second game).

I know what you mean about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory … one league game I had totally wrapped up, except for forgetting Poland was a VC  :lol:

[666]

@wheatbeer:

You can redo Italy on low luck if you like as well as change the Germans to Italians, so long as you grant me a low luck turn or battle do-over in the future (either in this game or in a league rematch, assuming you want a second game).

I know what you mean about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory … one league game I had totally wrapped up, except for forgetting Poland was a VC  :lol:

low luck…ie BB + art = 6 to hit therefore it scores one hit and if it was an inf & BB it would hit at 5 therefore you roll a dice and it hits as long as you don’t roll a six? etc…Never played low luck before but I believe that is the way it goes?

[wheatbeer]

Pretty much. Add up all the attack values, divide by 6, if there’s a remainder roll 1 die and if it’s the same or lower, that’s an extra hit.

1 dd, 1 ca, 1 bb = 2+3+4 = 9 attack
9/6 = 1 remainder 3

then roll 1@3

Rolls: 1@3; Total Hits: 11@3: (2)

[wheatbeer]

In the above example, that would mean they hit twice … once automatically, then once for the remainder roll

It isn’t necessary to do manually though, it’s a feature in tripleA too, you can check the low luck box within game options after loading the save file but before clicking “start PBEM”.  Then the program will automatically do it.

[666]

this is a very fine and generous offer. I found myself laughing at the pain and consternation it caused me all last night and even when I awoke it was bothering me.  :lol: It’s funny what impact this game has on me and I think my life must be pretty damn good if my major concerns seem to be having an italian navy in the med or not!?!

I will accept you very gracious offer but wonder if I am making a deal with the devil,  :evil:?

So If I understand correctly…my N.ITA forces (3inf & art) attack the lone brit arm and they auto hit because they equal 6. Therefore your arm defends and needs a 1,2,3 to hit… I will roll here;Rolls: 1@3; Total Hits: 01@3: (6)

The naval battle, ITA BB, CV, 2 fgt, 2 cr & dd = 18 therefore 3 hits, you will lose the 2 ss & dd & assume. Your naval force, 2ss, dd, cr, cv & 2 fgt = 17…therefore you hit twice and need a 1-5 to hit a third which I will roll here;Rolls: 1@5; Total Hits: 11@5: (5)