13L G40 JWW axis v Wheatbeer (+10) allies

[666]

didn’t realize the fgt’s from HAW could attack z6….I see now the cv movement which allows this. GOD DAMNIT

[666]

yes please scramble and hit 3 for my Defense.

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :2

Politics - Americans
            Americans takes Political Action: Political Action Americans To War With Germans
                Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Americans To War With Germans: Changing Relationship for Germans and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Americans takes Political Action: Political Action Americans To War With Italians
                Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Americans To War With Italians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Trigger Americans War Production Western: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Western United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Central: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Central United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Eastern United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Western: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Western United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Central: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Central United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Eastern United States

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 4 bombers; Remaining resources: 4 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            Trigger Americans Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared  for rulesAttatchment attached to Americans
            4 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 6 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 8 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 101 Sea Zone to 108 Sea Zone
                  Americans take 106 Sea Zone from Germans
            1 submarine moved from 101 Sea Zone to 108 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Japanese scrambles 2 units out of Japan to defend against the attack in 6 Sea Zone
            Battle in 6 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 4 fighters and 1 submarine
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 transports
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 6 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 4 fighters in 6 Sea Zone, round 1 :  3/4 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 transports in 6 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Americans , 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese and 2 fighters owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone
                    2 transports owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 36
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 transports
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
            Battle in 108 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                Germans defend with 2 submarines
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 108 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 108 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 108 Sea Zone, round 1 :  2/2 hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Americans and 2 submarines owned by the Germans lost in 108 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine

Non Combat Move - Americans
            4 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            2 carriers moved from 10 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to Eastern United States
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 30 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
            1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
            1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            4 bombers placed in Eastern United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 50 PUs; end with 54 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 74 PUs

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 36 / 46
    Russians : 37 / 37
    Japanese : 49 / 49
    Americans : 50 / 74
    Chinese : 5 / 8
    British : 28 / 38
    UK_Pacific : 5 / 17
    Italians : 20 / 26
    ANZAC : 14 / 14
    French : 8 / 0
    Dutch : 7 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 4 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :2

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            3 infantry moved from Shensi to Suiyuyan
            3 infantry moved from Shensi to Hopei
            1 infantry moved from Shensi to Kweichow
            1 fighter moved from Shensi to Kweichow
            1 infantry moved from Shensi to Kweichow

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Hopei
                Chinese attack with 3 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Hopei, round 1 :  0/3 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Hopei, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hopei
                Chinese win, taking Hopei from Japanese with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Suiyuyan
                Chinese attack with 3 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Suiyuyan
                Chinese win, taking Suiyuyan from Japanese with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Kweichow
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Kweichow, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kweichow
                Chinese win, taking Kweichow from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Shensi

Place Units - Chinese
            2 infantry placed in Shensi

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 8 PUs; end with 10 PUs total

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 36 / 46
    Russians : 37 / 37
    Japanese : 46 / 49
    Americans : 50 / 74
    Chinese : 8 / 10
    British : 28 / 38
    UK_Pacific : 5 / 17
    Italians : 20 / 26
    ANZAC : 14 / 14
    French : 8 / 0
    Dutch : 7 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 4 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[wheatbeer]

UK is attacking SZ109.

Rolled 2 hits, need OOL since the the planes on the carrier would have no safe landing zone if it’s tipped.

[666]

@wheatbeer:

UK is attacking SZ109.

Rolled 2 hits, need OOL since the the planes on the carrier would have no safe landing zone if it’s tipped.

yeah I meant to drop a G inf in eire but forgot. I was going to ask if I could after the fact but decide against….Anyways the CV needs to be either the last unit or second to last to take hits.

[666]

so take a hit to the dd & tac and keep up the good rolling, need to make up for z6

[wheatbeer]

Germany rolled 3 hits so UK retreated.

I just realized that I didn’t attack Burma like I’d planned … would you allow me to roll that manually and EDIT in the results?

[666]

@wheatbeer:

Germany rolled 3 hits so UK retreated.

I just realized that I didn’t attack Burma like I’d planned … would you allow me to roll that manually and EDIT in the results?

hell no, let’s keep to my (EIRE) earlier decision, “no requests to add/revise attacks” just NCM’s. We need to live with our mistakes.  :-o

[wheatbeer]

If you’d asked during Germany’s turn or immediately after it or (in this particular case) at any point before America’s turn, I would have allowed it.

I asked in this case because the UK hadn’t even started noncombat movement and my intention to attack Burma clearly had no connection to the outcomes of any of the other combats.

If you want to play strictly-by-the-rules that’s your prerogative. I see no reason why noncombat deserves any exception.

[666]

@wheatbeer:

If you’d asked during Germany’s turn or immediately after it or (in this particular case) at any point before America’s turn, I would have allowed it.

I asked in this case because the UK hadn’t even started noncombat movement and my intention to attack Burma clearly had no connection to the outcomes of any of the other combats.

If you want to play strictly-by-the-rules that’s your prerogative. I see no reason why noncombat deserves any exception.

if it matters to you that much then go ahead. Changing ncm’s, before your opponents turn seem to be an accepted practice, that’s all. Asking to change a forgotten combat movement isn’t universally accepted.

but if you need to do it  :roll:….in this case, go ahead  :oops:

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :2

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Scotland to 109 Sea Zone
            1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            2 infantry moved from Persia to 80 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 72 Sea Zone to Kenya
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to Kenya
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to 81 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 72 Sea Zone to Kenya
            1 cruiser moved from 76 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Alexandria to Anglo Egyptian Sudan

Combat - British
            Battle in Kenya
                British attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 cruiser in Kenya, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kenya, round 1 :  3/6 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Kenya, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British , 1 artillery owned by the Italians and 2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Kenya
                British win, taking Kenya from Italians with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Battle in Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                British attack with 1 armour and 2 infantry
                Italians defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 armour and 2 infantry in Anglo Egyptian Sudan, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Anglo Egyptian Sudan, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                British win, taking Anglo Egyptian Sudan from Italians with 1 armour and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in 109 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 4 fighters
                Germans defend with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 4 fighters in 109 Sea Zone, round 1 :  2/6 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 109 Sea Zone, round 1 :  3/6 hits
                    1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans , 2 fighters owned by the British , 1 destroyer owned by the Germans and 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 109 Sea Zone
                retreated to 109 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -9
                Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 2 fighters

Non Combat Move - British
            1 bomber moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to Eire
                  British take Eire from Neutral_Allies
            2 aaGuns and 3 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kenya to Egypt
            1 fighter moved from 76 Sea Zone to India
            2 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
            2 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Tanganyika Territory
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 76 Sea Zone to 71 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 fighter moved from 109 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ontario to Eastern United States
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Quebec to Eastern United States
            1 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
                  British take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies
            1 fighter moved from 109 Sea Zone to Gibraltar

Place Units - British
            1 factory_minor placed in Persia
            1 destroyer placed in 106 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 109 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,6,6,6
            British collect 30 PUs; end with 32 PUs total
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 37 PUs

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 artillery and 4 infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 5 PUs; end with 6 PUs total
            Some Units in India change ownership: 1 artillery and 4 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 36 / 46
    Russians : 37 / 37
    Japanese : 46 / 49
    Americans : 50 / 74
    Chinese : 8 / 10
    British : 30 / 37
    UK_Pacific : 5 / 6
    Italians : 18 / 26
    ANZAC : 14 / 14
    French : 8 / 0
    Dutch : 7 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 4 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[wheatbeer]

Every here has different notions of what’s sporting and what’s not.

I was mostly irritated that you said “hell no” with a tone of incredulity that I’d even asked.

[wheatbeer]

*Every player

[666]

@wheatbeer:

I was mostly irritated that you said “hell no” with a tone of incredulity that I’d even asked.

That’s the trouble with email, and correspondence such as this, things can be taken the wrong way. There wasn’t any “incredulity” when I read your request. There wasn’t any “tone”, it kind of gave me a chuckle in fact, when I typed it. (I am such a tough guy?  :lol:) It’s all good. Sorry to have irritated you, irritation should primarily come to us players via the dice and our mistakes versus communications between us.

Typically, for me at least, in the league, despite often times having the desire to, and more often than not a great need to, I don’t request for changes in the combat phase……not to say these request etc. shouldn’t ever be granted…

again, if you really think you need to or want to go into burma, be my guest. I certainly don’t want any hard feelings.

[wheatbeer]

Sorry for my extraneous interpretation  :oops:

I also don’t want hard feelings, since the attack could alter what turn Calcutta falls.

Given that I don’t expect I’ll be able to save Calcutta indefinitely (at least, I usually lose it), I am not certain if that’s actually game outcome changing or not.

If you’re certain you don’t think it’s unfair,

BURr1

A 2 inf, 1 fig, 1 tact

Rolls: 2@1 1@3 1@4; Total Hits: 22@1: (3, 3)1@3: (2)1@4: (1)

D 1 art

Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (6)

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :2

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Scotland to 109 Sea Zone
            1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            2 infantry moved from Persia to 80 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 72 Sea Zone to Kenya
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to Kenya
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to 81 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 72 Sea Zone to Kenya
            1 cruiser moved from 76 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Alexandria to Anglo Egyptian Sudan

Combat - British
            Battle in Kenya
                British attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                British win, taking Kenya from Italians with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Battle in Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                British attack with 1 armour and 2 infantry
                Italians defend with 1 infantry
                British win, taking Anglo Egyptian Sudan from Italians with 1 armour and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in 109 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 4 fighters
                Germans defend with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                retreated to 109 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -9
                Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 2 fighters

Non Combat Move - British
            1 bomber moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to Eire
                  British take Eire from Neutral_Allies
            2 aaGuns and 3 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kenya to Egypt
            1 fighter moved from 76 Sea Zone to India
            2 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
            2 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Tanganyika Territory
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 76 Sea Zone to 71 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 fighter moved from 109 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ontario to Eastern United States
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Quebec to Eastern United States
            1 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
                  British take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies
            1 fighter moved from 109 Sea Zone to Gibraltar

Place Units - British
            1 factory_minor placed in Persia
            1 destroyer placed in 106 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 109 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,6,6,6
            British collect 30 PUs; end with 32 PUs total
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 37 PUs

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 artillery and 4 infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 5 PUs; end with 6 PUs total
            Some Units in India change ownership: 1 artillery and 4 infantry
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Burma: 1 artillery
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Burma from Japanese to UK_Pacific
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from India: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Burma: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Changing PUs for UK_Pacific from 6 to 7
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

[wheatbeer]

(there’s a post preceding the new map upload)

[666]

I should get to this tomorrow

[wheatbeer]

No worries