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PTV Art of War (Ax+5) v Nikola (Al)

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@nikola1975 said in PTV Art of War (Ax+5) v Nikola (Al):

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Well, it was a shocking revelation. I am not sure how this should be solved, but it is against the game’s philosophy of not sending planes into certain death.

If the game developers don’t change it, you can call it out at the beginning of any game, agreeing with your opponent to not use it. Other than that, you should simply defend against it.
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That is the other thing and we can go into philosophy here as well. From the utilitarian point of view, you are right, but I am not a utilitarian, so here I don’t agree with you. Speaking of morality, I highly recommend this Harvard course, it’s great and free and touches things you are speaking about:
https://pll.harvard.edu/course/justice

From the game point of view, it does not make sense - as one of the first things I remembered playing A&A is that you can not send planes to certain death. And this “rule” you have played by (or oversee by the authors) is exactly that.
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Scramble to SZ 21 or SZ 45?

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@artofwar1947 No.
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@artofwar1947 It seems again one of those rules. It is asking for a kamikaze attack on the seazone 36, where I already had all those ships.

So, let me know if you want to send some pilots there.
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By virtue of the amphibious assault on Manilla, the US is conducting an offensive operation in in SZ 36. It does not matter whether the ships were there already or moved in this turn.

1 Kamikaze on the US Cruiser.
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@artofwar1947 scramble

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Scramble 2 fighters and tac to Kiangsi.
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the kamikaze was supposed to attack the US CA (cruiser), not a CV (carrier).
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@artofwar1947 Hm, not sure why I read carrier. It missed in any case, I would have edit it otherwise if it hit.
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@artofwar1947 I think you uploaded the old savegame.
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Scramble fighters from Davao and SZ 36 to defend Manila?

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

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Round: 6 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 2 artilleries, 2 infantry, 6 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 battleship and 2 cruisers moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 7 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 54 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium Combat - Americans Battle in Holland Belgium Battle in Caroline Islands Americans attack with 1 artillery, 7 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Japanese defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry Japanese roll AA dice in Caroline Islands : 1/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in Caroline Islands Americans roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Caroline Islands, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 6 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Caroline Islands, round 2 : 3/11 hits, 4.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 aaGun and 2 infantry in Caroline Islands, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Caroline Islands 2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 aaGun owned by the Japanese lost in Caroline Islands Americans win, taking Holland Belgium from Germans, taking Caroline Islands from Japanese with 1 artillery, 6 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2 Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter and 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun and 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 5 carriers, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 5 submarines moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter moved from 63 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Wake Island to 33 Sea Zone 6 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 2 fighters moved from Eastern United States to 26 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to United Kingdom 1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Tobruk to Gibraltar 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Egypt 1 marine moved from Crete to 99 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Crete to 99 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from 98 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to Tunisia 1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 2 aaGuns and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone 2 aaGuns and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Suriname to 88 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 88 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 aaGun, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 88 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 carrier moved from 88 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar Place Units - Americans 6 submarines and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western United States 2 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Eastern United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 55 PUs; 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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

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Round: 17 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries, 2 bombers, 1 carrier and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 7 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Queensland to 55 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 54 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 8 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 46 Sea Zone 4 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 46 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Kazakhstan to Szechwan 1 bomber moved from Turkey to Szechwan 3 infantry moved from Turkey to 99 Sea Zone 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 99 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Spain 1 battleship and 2 cruisers moved from 99 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Gibraltar to Spain 1 infantry moved from Colombia to Peru Americans take Peru from Neutral_True Combat - Americans Battle in 46 Sea Zone Americans attack with 12 fighters Japanese defend with 1 destroyer Americans roll dice for 12 fighters in 46 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/12 hits, 6.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 46 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in 46 Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 46 Sea Zone Americans win with 11 fighters remaining. 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Rolls: 6,3 Americans collect 61 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 61 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 76 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese Trigger Chinese Guerilla Szechwan: Chinese has 1 infantry placed in Szechwan 2 infantry moved from Kansu to Suiyuyan 1 fighter moved from Sikang to Suiyuyan 2 infantry moved from Kansu to Shensi 1 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Shensi 1 artillery and 8 infantry moved from Sikang to Shensi Combat - Chinese Chinese creates battle in territory Szechwan Battle in Suiyuyan Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Suiyuyan Chinese win, taking Szechwan from Japanese, taking Suiyuyan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Shensi Chinese attack with 1 artillery and 11 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 11 infantry in Shensi, round 2 : 2/12 hits, 2.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shensi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shensi Chinese win, taking Shensi from Japanese with 1 artillery and 11 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Suiyuyan to Tsinghai Place Units - Chinese 2 infantry placed in Shensi Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 6 PUs; end with 7 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 3 artilleries, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 3 marines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 92 Sea Zone: 1 carrier EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 98 Sea Zone: 1 carrier EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 71 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Persia to 80 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Iraq to 80 Sea Zone Combat - British Battle in 80 Sea Zone British attack with 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 1 submarine Japanese defend with 1 submarine British roll dice for 1 submarine in 80 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 2 destroyers and 2 fighters in 80 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 80 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the British lost in 80 Sea Zone 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 80 Sea Zone British win, taking 80 Sea Zone from Japanese with 2 destroyers and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for British: 1 submarine Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine Non Combat Move - British 2 fighters moved from Kazakhstan to Bryansk 2 fighters moved from Kazakhstan to 98 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 80 Sea Zone to Egypt 1 fighter moved from Saudi Arabia to Tobruk 3 tactical_bombers moved from Gibraltar to Tobruk 1 fighter moved from Turkey to Tobruk 1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to Tobruk 1 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia 1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia 1 aaGun moved from Northwest Persia to Persia 1 armour moved from Turkey to Syria 3 infantry moved from Egypt to 98 Sea Zone 11 infantry moved from Turkey to Syria 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 4 cruisers, 1 fighter and 6 transports moved from 99 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Turkey to Syria 1 artillery moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus 2 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus 3 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 2 infantry moved from Turkey to Northwest Persia 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus 1 mech_infantry moved from Persia to Caucasus 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq 1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo 2 aaGuns and 7 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 89 Sea Zone to Southeast Mexico 1 destroyer moved from 64 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone Place Units - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Gibraltar: 1 tactical_bomber EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to United Kingdom: 1 tactical_bomber EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 infantry placed in United Kingdom 1 fighter placed in United Kingdom 3 artilleries placed in Iraq 3 marines placed in Egypt Turn Complete - British British collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 36 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 39 PUs Turn Complete - UK_Pacific Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Persia: 1 aaGun EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Northwest Persia: 1 aaGun EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -0.17 Americans regular : -2.17 Japanese regular : 2.17 Germans regular : 1.00 British regular : -1.00
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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 7
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History
Round: 7 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 infantry moved from Syria to Iraq Italians take Iraq from British 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan Italians take Anglo-Egyptian Sudan from British 1 infantry moved from Nigeria to French Equatorial Africa Italians take French Equatorial Africa from British Combat - Italians Non Combat Move - Italians 4 transports moved from 100 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Egypt to Southern Italy 1 bomber moved from Egypt to Southern Italy 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 2 fighters moved from 100 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 100 Sea Zone to Egypt 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan Place Units - Italians 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Egypt 1 fighter placed in Southern Italy 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Southern Italy 2 infantry placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 82 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,6,2,5,3,3,5,4,6,4,4 Italians collect 21 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 21 PUs Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 26 PUs Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 28 PUs Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 31 PUs Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 36 PUs
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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 9
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

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Round: 9 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 2 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 8 infantry, 3 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 113 Sea Zone to 128 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 3 destroyers moved from 113 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 113 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 6 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria Americans take Algeria from Germans 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Gibraltar to 94 Sea Zone 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 6 transports moved from 94 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Tunisia 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Tunisia 1 artillery moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta 1 artillery moved from 96 Sea Zone to Tunisia 2 battleships, 3 carriers, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 93 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 93 Sea Zone to Tunisia 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 27 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 27 Sea Zone to 50 Sea Zone 4 fighters moved from Queensland to 50 Sea Zone Combat - Americans Battle in Malta Battle in Tunisia Americans attack with 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 3 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 6 infantry Germans roll AA dice in Tunisia : 0/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 battleships and 1 cruiser in Tunisia, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.83 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 3 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Tunisia, round 2 : 5/12 hits, 5.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 6 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 2.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Tunisia 2 aaGuns owned by the Germans and 4 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Tunisia Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 3 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Tunisia, round 3 : 5/11 hits, 4.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Tunisia, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Tunisia 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Tunisia Americans win, taking Malta from Germans, taking Tunisia from Germans with 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 3 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 23 Casualties for Americans: 3 infantry Casualties for Germans: 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 6 infantry Battle in 128 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 destroyer and 2 submarines Germans defend with 1 destroyer Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 128 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 128 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 128 Sea Zone Americans win, taking 128 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 destroyer and 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer Battle in 50 Sea Zone Americans attack with 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber Japanese defend with 1 destroyer Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 50 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 50 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 50 Sea Zone Americans win with 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer Battle in 113 Sea Zone Americans attack with 2 fighters and 1 submarine Germans defend with 1 destroyer Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 113 Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 113 Sea Zone Americans win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - Americans 2 fighters moved from 113 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Tunisia to 96 Sea Zone 3 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Central United States to 104 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from 104 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 3 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco 3 fighters moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone 5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 50 Sea Zone to Queensland 1 submarine moved from 94 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from New South Wales to South Australia Place Units - Americans 1 fighter and 4 infantry placed in Western United States 1 destroyer, 3 submarines and 1 transport placed in 11 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Central United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 56 PUs; end with 56 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 71 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi Chinese take Kwangsi from Japanese 10 artilleries and 24 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kweichow Combat - Chinese Battle in Kweichow Chinese attack with 10 artilleries and 24 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 10 artilleries and 24 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 7/34 hits, 9.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kweichow Chinese win, taking Kweichow from Japanese with 10 artilleries and 24 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan Place Units - Chinese 1 infantry placed in Tsinghai 2 infantry placed in Kweichow Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 9 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British Non Combat Move - British 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Algeria 1 infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan 1 infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Belgian Congo 1 infantry moved from Nigeria to French Equatorial Africa 4 infantry moved from French West Africa to Nigeria 2 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 94 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 94 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 94 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to Malta 1 armour, 7 artilleries, 20 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq 1 infantry moved from Baluchistan to Southern Persia 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Kenya to Belgian Congo 1 infantry moved from Tanganyika Territory to Belgian Congo 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 2 transports moved from 74 Sea Zone to 73 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Union of South Africa to 73 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Southern Persia to Iraq 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Kweichow 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq Place Units - British 3 infantry placed in Southern Persia 2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Iraq 1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Union of South Africa Turn Complete - British Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 100 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,5,3,2,1,1,5,5,5,5,4,1,1,2,3,4 British collect 33 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 33 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 36 PUs Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -2.00 Americans regular : 1.17 Japanese regular : -0.67 Germans AA : -0.67 Germans regular : 0.00
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@Jacob16 yeah. if its occupied by the US or another allied power, Russia can safely move in without triggering the mongolian rules.

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