Indeed, and browsing through the catalogue, I found
1914 COW-Empires Domination 1914 Blood and Steel New World Order 1915 LebowskiI have never played those, but maybe someone wants to give them a try.
TripleA still up and running! Many players online.
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I’ve sent some emails to explain my dismay. Hasbro can say bye bye to any further purchases from me.
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The issue here is that:
The chimps at Wotc won’t help any hypothetical upcoming official software game release with that letter to shutdown TripleA, b/c TripleA will be changed in some small details, so it will still live on and evolve, if the coders want to work on it. The only way Hasbro/Wotc can out-compete or get rid of TripleA is by making a better product.
But the chimps at Wotc can’t read, so they have not read the Origin of the Species. They don’t know what evolution is. The way the laws of the nature works is that you don’t get rid of competition by man made law, but to evolve better than the competitors, adapt or die. The laws of nature are much more relevant than judicial laws.
That’s why there’s a great chance that any official software version from Hasbro/Wotc will not be better than TripleA.
What to expect from chimps, I mean, we departed from the chimps 5.000.000 years ago, but there are some leftovers, like Hasbro/Wotc employees. -
The issue here is that:
The chimps at Wotc won’t help any hypothetical upcoming official software game release with that letter to shutdown TripleA, b/c TripleA will be changed in some small details, so it will still live on and evolve, if the coders want to work on it. The only way Hasbro/Wotc can out-compete or get rid of TripleA is by making a better product.
But the chimps at Wotc can’t read, so they have not read the Origin of the Species. They don’t know what evolution is. The way the laws of the nature works is that you don’t get rid of competition by man made law, but to evolve better than the competitors, adapt or die. The laws of nature are much more relevant than judicial laws.
That’s why there’s a great chance that any official software version from Hasbro/Wotc will not be better than TripleA.
What to expect from chimps, I mean, we departed from the chimps 5.000.000 years ago, but there are some leftovers, like Hasbro/Wotc employees.My god man i love your style!
This prose is a beautiful use of sarcasm. Keep up the chimp talk. Id love it for WOTC to become associated with chimps in the everyday lexicon of common usage as payback for the angst they have caused the public for such shortsighted and stupid practices. I have started this trend a number of years ago. If you google WOTC chimps you will find a number of my posts.
I would hope that WOTC is always addressed ….as Chimps
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@Imperious:
I would hope that WOTC is always addressed ….as Chimps
What about the poor chimps? They might not like to be associated with WOTC and throw a lawsuit at you for slander and libel :-D
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Your assuming they are not chimps? Since they are chimps how can they be upset? They certainly are not upset about not lifting a finger to market their AA products. Certainly not upset about the rubbish manner they conduct business. These are the things they should be worried about.
I will send them more bananas to placate them. Chimps go wild over such things.
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@Imperious:
Your assuming they are not chimps? Since they are chimps how can they be upset? They certainly are not upset about not lifting a finger to market their AA products. Certainly not upset about the rubbish manner they conduct business. These are the things they should be worried about.
I will send them more bananas to placate them. Chimps go wild over such things.
Well, we didn’t evolve from chimps, but had a common ancestor, and in my opinion chimps got the better end of evolution than we. Just look at it: to make them happy just throw the chimps some bananas, in our case we need television and internet and living in crowded cities and gasoline prices and laws and a bunch of other things. While chimps just stand on the tree branch doing nothing and when they are hungry just stretch their arms to get a banana or something.
Hmmm…now that I think of it Wotc and Hasbro aren’t much different from chimps: just release their products and wait at their offices for the money… and if someone is also taking bananas from the tree, get a rock and throw at the trespassers.Oh well, I guess we never ceased to be monkeys after all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a15KgyXBX24
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LMFAO!!!
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I received an official response from Wizards of the Coast to my email (organized as Veqryn suggested).
They said:
Thank you for contacting us with your concern.
Wizards of the Coast has licensed Axis & Allies and other Avalon Hill games to GameTableOnline.com for online play. We encourage Avalon Hill fans to visit Game Table Online to continue their online play experience.
So, I suppose there is not any planning of doing computer games or other. The reason for the legal action agaisnt TripleA is that GTO has the license for online play.
:-(
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Screw that. I’m not paying money everytime I want a competitive game of Axis and Allies. TripleA will live on underground I reckon.
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As i said, they can stuff it… No more buys for me, they mishandled the Aniversery edition (limited edition ftl) and the tripleA issue.
So screw them lets make sure tripleA stays online one way or the other.
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@Imperious:
This prose is a beautiful use of sarcasm. Keep up the chimp talk.
Thx man, you invented the chimp metaphor/concept for Hasbro/Wotc employees.
Now, this clip is similar to how Hasbro attacks TripleA :-)) or any other freeware software version which makes it possibly to play A&A on a PC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKpZUsRJWBg
Although the (real) chimpanzees use only a couple of minutes to solve this problem, Wotc/Hasbro chimps would not solve this problem as fast as our ancestors in this video clip.
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We all know that there are people who will send the program around anyway.
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I received an official response from Wizards of the Coast to my email (organized as Veqryn suggested).
They said:
Thank you for contacting us with your concern.
Wizards of the Coast has licensed Axis & Allies and other Avalon Hill games to GameTableOnline.com for online play. We encourage Avalon Hill fans to visit Game Table Online to continue their online play experience.
So, I suppose there is not any planning of doing computer games or other. The reason for the legal action agaisnt TripleA is that GTO has the license for online play.
:-(
I got the same answer today, with exactly the same wording. After seeing your answer, I am definitely going to write back to them because that is no way to reply to a costumer, especially because that answer completely ignores some issues I mentioned to them.
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Yes perhaps GTO decided that it cant bite enough of the apple so they yanked the chimps about and told them: close down the competing versions of AA because we paid for a license to make AA and they did not. The hate may be redirected against chimps at GTO.
Yes i think we have an answer.
Game table online just shut down TripleA!
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I received an official response from Wizards of the Coast to my email (organized as Veqryn suggested).
They said:
Thank you for contacting us with your concern.
Wizards of the Coast has licensed Axis & Allies and other Avalon Hill games to GameTableOnline.com for online play. We encourage Avalon Hill fans to visit Game Table Online to continue their online play experience.
So, I suppose there is not any planning of doing computer games or other. The reason for the legal action agaisnt TripleA is that GTO has the license for online play.
:-(
I gather TripleA was free and GTO is not?
Makes you wonder what GTO was thinking.
Pay for the rights to market something when people are already using the product for free?
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http://www.battleforces.com/screenshots
This looks interesting. its AA but its not like Trip A
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Oh well, I guess we never ceased to be monkeys after all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a15KgyXBX24
Hobbes - Great Chimp video link :lol:
I have the stable version @TripleA and it works, but could not get the unstabble version to download. It seems like it is pretty good as far as a free program is concerned, there are some bugs, and the AI is a dimwit sometimes, but still good fun. Obviously ment to be played against another person through sourceforge which is a lot better. I think it is a little cheesy for Hasbro to start worrying about this now as it has been around for a while and they are not really involved with AA anymore anyway. I think this all started with GTO as mentioned by Romulus. It is a shame as AA fans are some of the most loyal and they will buy every product (almost) AA comes out with.
There is obviously a demand for an online PC game version and even a stand alone PC game version of AA because of the quicker game play and less time require to finish a game and lets face it, this is the computer age and boardgames in general are almost on the way out. Personnaly I prefer sitting around the table with a bunch of friends playing a “real” AA game, but that can take all day or sometimes several, but at home after diner on a week night, a PC game makes way more sense. Avalon Hill / WOTC / Atari (or Hasbro) should make their own new PC version and simply blow all the others away and that would solve all their issues as AA fans would flock to the newer better game even if they have had enough of the “Chimps”, just because they love the game.
I actually have a copy of the original Hasbro PC game and I still play it now and then as it is not that bad. But with the new computer advances, etc, they could come up with one PC game that has ALL AA game versions built-in so you could play any of them anytime at home alone (Pacific, Europe, AA50, AAR, Battle of the Bulge, D-Day, Etc.), and they could improve the AI as to be just like facing an experience veteran human player. That would be the cats meow.
If they made this happen everyone would quickly forget about all the other versions and this would be the new hot topic. 8-)
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GTO is free for me and others who registered many months ago, (at least it still is free for A&A), but GTO need much more work and coding to be comparable to TripleA, imo. Maybe they’ll get there, but now they’re not even close, imo.
I would welcome any official software version which includes all A&A games, and a serious platform/server for online play. But GTO was/is not meant to be implementing all A&A versions online, and GTO lacks 15-20 features which should be implemented even before they launched the online application. As long as TripleA has many more options and features it will still be the number 1 choice for many A&A online players.
And even if GTO also implemented a LL feature lately, this is not enough for hardcore competitive A&A players.
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I decided to check out GTO to see if it is any good. Basically, the website only has 1 version of A&A, which happens to be Revised. Also, you are allowed to play it against a computer player for free, but if you want to play against a Human player, you will have to shell out $9.00 (US) (and that is a one time thing, not every time you want to, just the first time). There are also no options available. Lastly, as far as the actual game went, I have no clue because it would not load despite my 4 attempts.
All in all, TripleA kicks its a**. Not only is it free, but I can play all the different versions A&A, and play user created maps or even make my own. The rules are hardcoded, and there are plenty of options when setting up the game. There is an in game editor for when you want to create your own situations, or undo something, etc. There is also a calculator to give you your chances of success in a particular battle. There are more people in an online lobby to connect to who want to play A&A (whereas GTO has a variety of games, so when I logged on there was not a single game of A&A going, nor apparently anyone interested in it).Lastly, I have not received a reply to my email yet, but I read the one above (thx romulus). This has given me an idea. What would it cost us to buy the rights to A&A online from hasbro too? If it is cheap, or if it could be sold as a percentage of advertising revenue (like, 100%, i don’t care) generated from an ingame side panel with some non-annoying advertisement, then maybe we could just buy the damn rights instead of going underground.
I’ll send them an email next week asking who I would have to talk to.edit: also, I have decided to start playing webdiplomacy.net (the game Diplomacy), and would encourage people to try it out. There is no luck involved at all.
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I have played Revised at GTO and well frankly their program sucks. I only played one game there and will never play another one. I think the view of the map is smaller than the old trippleA was as I have not played trippleA in quite sometime. Bids are not supported and if I recall correctly neither are LHTR. My impression was mainly it was some cheesy crap with more emphasis on graphics and sound effects than actual game play.
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