Well for the 2020 playoffs the rules are set so no crying. You know what you are signing up for. Don’t like OOB then don’t sign up. For 2021 I think the discussion can be had to change the playoff rules. I will leave PTV out of it. Its too different of a game. As for leaving it as OOB I see the merits of that. BM3 is only a mod (not perfect but a really good one) that is used in this league. I can only speak from my experience but I found this league and site after playing the OOB BOARD GAME many times amongst friends. So I would venture to say anyone coming in new to the league would have OOB as their base of knowledge. You may alienate new people with requiring BM3. Even though BM3 is better in a lot of peoples opinions no one new has the chance to play it unless they join the league. I think only after playing OOB against high end opponents do you tend to see the imbalance of OOB. At least for me that was the case. Then slowly learning and playing BM3 do you really appreciate it. And then you can weigh the pros and cons of OOB vs BM3. But IMO limiting new people to the league is more of a detriment than complaining about having to play OOB. Just my two cents.

@AndrewAAGamer said in League General Discussion Thread:

Not sure, but as I remember it was majikforce who discussed playing other players and how it hurt his record.

For me now that I know there is a friendly area to play n to help players get better I am content with the League as is. trulpen and I are doing a Tutor game and I expect to do at least 2-3 of those a year for those interested. In fact our first one is just beginning! CHECK IT OUT!!!

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/35254/tutor-game-andrewaagamer-x-vs-trulpen-and-everyone-else-a-50-oob?page=1

Just for the record I don’t recall ever complaining about my rank. It really doesn’t matter to me. I know full well what my rank is and where I fit in this league. I waffle between tier 1 and E depending on my brain capacity that day I know what players I can beat and what players I have can have a pretty even match with and what players kick my ass! (looking at you AD!) So my ranking is just a number. I enjoy playing new players to help them get up to speed and hopefully enrich the league play. Sometimes it burns me (ie trulpen and andrewgamer beating me as 3’s) but that’s okay. It just shows their skill level and my lack of skill in an area. All for the better. As for the ranking system I think it works great for this league and is a proven system (thanks for all you do gamerman, greatly appreciated) Some people will just always be a certain level player no matter who they play, some will grow to be better players, some will not. It takes a chunk of time and commitment to play this game and maybe the higher level players just don’t want to invest in that to beat up on some lower tier player. It may not even help that player to get stomped by an M. To have a balanced league the higher tiers should have somewhat of a responsibility to improve game play with their knowledge. But not at the cost of taking the fun out of the game. Just my thoughts. Great people, great league, great game! Bombs away.

@axis-dominion WooHoo! Get your popcorn out! Good luck to you gentlemen. May the dice treat you both fairly.

Offering up a chance for new players or lower tier players to get a game with me. I have 1 or 2 slots open and my work is shut down next week so I have all the time in the world. Maybe…wife and kids may have a say in that. PM me for a game. Everybody stay safe and healthy out there!

@trulpen I’ll give it a go. Single player games have been frustrating with the dice lately. Hope I’m not a jinx to whoever partners up with me.

@simon33 said in Should allies receive a bid?:

IMO, Vichy favours axis slightly, marines are a close call.

Sbr changes favour the allies but the real changes are in the no’s.

I agree Vichy favors the axis slightly but it is easily prevented but at a price. Marines are lots of fun. I wouldn’t say necessary but definitely add spice to the pacific theater. One huge change that is overlooked a lot is the capital plunder only being allowed to occur once. A big balance for the Allies.

@gamerman01 AetV (axis) over majikforce (allies) A well fought match. Marred a bit by a 1st battle dicing in sz6 for the US which was difficult to recover from. But the axis handled everything the Allies threw at them with poise and determined focus. Good work by Aetv!
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/33469/l19-majikforce-vs-aetv-game-1/161

@farmboy I have never been one to care about my ranking. I know what my skill level is. It may not necessarily be that the upper tier players care about a ranking as well, there is something to be said about taking on a challenging game. It does take time and effort to play this game even online and if the competition does not challenge you it may be a deterrent to picking up some games. Do you think Lebron James really wants to play you in one on one and enjoy it?

All that being said I do think the upper tier players owe it to the league to play some lower tier players and coach them up somewhat. I have always tried to play newer players and help them out a little bit. As a group its in our best interest to have as many good payers as possible to keep competition alive. I have slimmed my games down for a time but I would be willing to open 1 or 2 slots for a new or lower tier player. PM me if you want a game.

@gamerman01 AndrewAAgamer (axis) over Majikforce (allies) again!! That’s why he is my teammate for trulpens 2v2 tournament. If ya can’t beat 'em join 'em!
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/35271/l20-andrewaagamer-axis-vs-majikforce-allies-35-global-1940-2nd-ed-oob/81

@axis-dominion To be fair I did not specifically call anyone out for crying. Maybe a better choice of words is to complain even when you know the rules going into it. Is OOB so bad that you could never possibly get a win? I doubt that very much. That being said I am for a change in 2021 to be like you said take the predominantly played version as the playoff default. Now this talk of you resigning your game if “insisting to play OOB” I think is bad form. You knew the rules signing up for 2020 and as stated the default is OOB so the potential is there for you to have to play OOB possibly. To resign in the middle of a playoff robs someone else of the chance to play in tier 1. You should bow out now if that is your intention.

@aagamerz13 GG. It wasn’t looking good for me for a bit there. Fast take on Russia was worrisome. The wandering stack did it’s job though. As for the rematch I am going to pass. I will be taking a break from A&A for a while. Good luck to you in all your other games.

@aagamerz13 Japan is up!

@axis-dominion Congrats again AD!

@gamerman01 Jkellers allies over majikforces axis

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/37434/bm-majikforce-vs-jkeller-21?page=1

@jkeller Well looks like I got the worst of the dicing’s in this game. Less than a 50% chance to win and you finished with a ridiculous amount of units left as well. GG. I will post.

@jkeller Jap 14.tsvg

Thanks! I did it was great.

@aagamerz13 Rus 22.tsvg

@aagamerz13 ANZAC 21.tsvg

@aagamerz13 US 21.tsvg

@aagamerz13 Rus 21.tsvg