@zlefin If this is specific to the data from league play, it is worth noting that there was a lull, after the introduction of balanced mode, where OOB play declined significantly. Most of the tournaments play, especially by top players, for example, was in BM in which bids were closer to 20 rather then 60. That has changed again in the last few years. @AndrewAAGamer joining a few years ago was a big factor in that. He had very effective and efficient Axis strategy in OOB that seemed to require a 60 bid. Over time, some high level opponents can, and have, been able to push that down a bit, and it may still go down further as play evolves, but we are now in a place where bids are typically 40+ including for high level and closely matched players.

Also worth noting that players come and go and so the wheel does get reinvented. There aren’t too many people playing OOB now that were playing it 5 or 10 or more years ago. So while I’m sure changes in game strategy are a factor, we are a small sample size and the variation over time of who is playing may be significant too.

I suspect one factor in the bid is the J1DOW so it might be able to go down with later DOWs.

My own allied play tends to be more balance between theatres and any variation in emphasis on theatre depends more on what the axis is doing, when the Japanese DOW is, and what the opportunities are. So others may be able to speak better to KJF or failed strategies. But I think it is probably useful to look at some of the recent OOB tournament games and especially those that involve Andrew’s axis.

I’m just catching up on these posts so apologies if I missed anything.

I’m not opposed to the changes proposed around cruisers and Battleships and I’m curious about how the game plays with more of them on the board. Although I’m not sure what the price point is that makes them more common. Air has the advantage of being relevant to both land and sea whereas naval has very limited relevance to land, although I suppose that is also an argument to change the relative pricing of naval units relative to air. And at least with BM the marine unit mitigates that somewhat.

For air, while I’m also not opposed to trying something I am more hesitant about reversing the relative costs of figs and tacs/bombers. Figs are definitely the most common buy but, unlike naval purchases, I do see all 3 bought regularly. And I think because figs are the defensive unit and tacs and bombers are offensive there is some logic to the current relative costs . The axis need to play offensively (and in my experience they are consequently more likely to buy tacs and bombers) and the allies need to play defensively for much of the game (and so primarily buy figs until late game if they have managed to go on the offensive) So making offensive units more expensive does help mitigate against the axis advantages and changing it the other way might impact game balance to the benefit of the axis.

I think it is a good idea to make sure that people don’t have too much trouble finding opponents to play. That is both in the interests of some players individually but it is also in our collective interest. If some players, and especially new players, have difficulty finding opponents, than we will have trouble keeping people in the league and getting new people to join.

I don’t think mismatched games are necessarily a problem. It may be less interesting for the better players but it is a good learning experience for newer players and helps them become more competitive in the long run.

At the same time, I don’t want to add to the work of those who manage the league. So I would support an ELO system if it can be implemented in a way that doesn’t add to Gamerman’s work.

If that is too complicated, another option is just to score tier 3 the same way as tier 2. M and some E ranked players would still lose score in those games, but they would lose less, and everyone else would still go up.

Also, its worth noting, with new players at least, that losses to E and M players increase their average. There is a very good chance that players who start out at tier 3 will end up at tier 1 or 2 by the end of the year, and the more losses they have to E and M ranked players the more likely that is. So there is less of a disincentive than might appear at first.

@amon-sul welcome back!

the majority is still BM but games of ptv and oob are pretty common too. Bids for BM have moved to around 20 lately (although I think that is a little high).

I’m not opposed to trying an ELO (or another) system either but would worry that the small sample size is going to mess it up more substantially. I do think past results should matter each new year (As far as I’m aware, in the current scoring, they just matter until someone has played 3 games and then their score is based on the outcome of the games played in the current year. So their effect is to increase the score of the opponent in the early games). And I also think we need a reset each year to ensure some variation in who gets to play in the league finals. A longer term ELO with the relatively small number of games played may make it harder for new (or much improved) players to break in.

My view is that if it isn’t (that) broke don’t fix it. I don’t doubt there are some issues with scoring. But we are a small amateur (and very niche) league with a small number of games played and with variation in the number of games played by player. Nothing is going to be perfect. And I don’t think changes in scoring will dramatically shift how the final standings look. Of course if we can use a method that is more streamlined, easier to use (not just for gamerman but for who comes after), I’m not opposed to that either. But the existing method of scoring doesn’t strike me as particularly onerous either.

And if we want to avoid having too many players ranked E or M one way to address it is to just to shift the thresholds where one crosses over. E could be set at 5 and M at 6 or higher for example and that would spread things out more.

@gamerman01 I think I know the big game of which you speak! And I agree that AA is underrated.

I’ll add that in large battles, even with the battle calculator average, adding AA (as long as they would be able to roll a die) is comparable to buying figs in terms of its impact. And since so many smaller attacks involve small numbers of land units supported by several air, having one AA in the mix really complicates the choices for the attacker.

That single AA in Caroline Islands has probably won some games for Japan.

@lmterrell welcome to A&A! As barnee says, triplea is a good way to play online and for free. But if you do want the boardgame itself, it probably just depends on what you are looking for. If you are new to this kind of boardgame or you want something that is lighter and quicker (games that take an evening rather than a few days) you are probably better off with the 1942 or 1941 versions, at least to start. The Europe and Japan 1940 games are a bit more complicated and they combine for a Global game. These ones require quite a time commitment though and games can last days.

I’ve been playing online for a bit so I’m a bit rusty on the physical versions of the games but that is my sense. And if you are looking for people to play against the online game and this site are a good resource.

I like Oysteilo’s choices except I would hesitate on the sub in 110, the inf in Yunnan, and the transport in 71.

Yunnan increases the chances for a Yunnan disaster for Japan, but Japan is almost always going to go for it and the most likely outcome is just China losing one more inf.

The transport is probably only useful if you are fairly sure you are going to hit the Italians first in Ethiopia. But I think they often have other priorities that would demand the other units needed.I suppose it can go to Persia to allow the India transport to go to the islands, but I think the islands are often a mistake on UK1.

The sub in 110 is useful because the naval base gives it range but it doesn’t add much to the defense since the German attack there is mostly air and because that is the one spot the Germans are definitely going to hit. 106 may be more useful for defense since it likely blocks that attack or forces the Germans to send 3 subs (in which case the sub can submerge and join the counter)

UK Europe is almost always the best bet for the bulk of the bid since that is the one ally that is certain to be at war in round 1, (so I agree with Oysteilo’s emphasis on that) but I might still consider adding to the pacific. More UK inf in the pacific, or a second ANZAC sub, or Art for China.

Also, the sub in 91 is for me a must, as it discourages an attack on that cruiser (which is an option for Germany if they ignore 111 or 106) and it threatens everywhere the German navy ends up plus the Italian destroyer in 96.

But I haven’t really played much OOB for a while (and never had a chance to play with a 50 bid) so I might be misjudging and identifying things that are more appropriate for BM.

Dawgs input is welcome as well. How the league determines playoffs should be a question that everyone who is playing in league can speak to, although I assume gamerman gets to make the final decision. In past years, multiple playoffs have been set up to include people below the top 8. The point is to find rules that are inclusive enough of the different preferences people have, so that people are not discouraged from participating.

@martin welcome to the league martin!
You can play either BM or OOB here, or other variants such as PTV. The issue is only being able to find opponents that want to play the version you want. More people now play BM here, so if you are not too committed to OOB you may have more luck finding a game if you are willing to play both. BM is fairly close to OOB, but with a little more complexity and a little more balanced. PTV is more substantially different, but I believe it is also still being workshopped.

It can sometimes be hard for new (and unranked) players to find a game right away so you might need some patience. If you don’t get a response in a day or two, it can be worth posting here again … and again. And also look for others posting as well and message them. You will likely have more luck (as a new and unranked player) with players that are lower in the rankings then higher.

It is worth reviewing the league rules and standings to see how they work while you wait for a game. And somewhere on this site, you should find explanations for BM and PTV if you are interested in those.

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 11

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 11

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 3 artilleries, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 harbour, 7 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 mech_infantry moved from Persia to Trans-Jordan
              British take Trans-Jordan from Germans
        1 fighter moved from 93 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Persia to Syria
              Americans take Syria from Germans
        2 submarines moved from 16 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone
        4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 22 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Gibraltar to Western Germany
        2 fighters moved from Southern France to Western Germany
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Marianas to 22 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 22 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        6 fighters moved from 22 Sea Zone to Philippines
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines

    Combat - Americans
        Air Battle in Western Germany
            Americans attacks with 3 units heading to Western Germany
            Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets
        Strategic bombing raid in Western Germany
                Germans roll AA dice in Western Germany : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
            Bombing raid in Western Germany rolls: 4 and causes: 4 damage to unit: factory_major
            Bombing raid in Western Germany causes 4 damage total. 
        Battle in 96 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 fighter
            Italians defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone
            Americans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Italians: 1 transport
        Battle in 6 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 5 fighters, 3 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers
            Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans roll dice for 3 submarines in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone
            Americans win with 5 fighters, 3 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
        Battle in Philippines
            Americans attack with 1 artillery, 6 fighters and 3 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 airfield, 1 artillery and 1 harbour
                Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 6 fighters and 3 infantry in Philippines, round 2 : 7/10 hits, 4.00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Philippines, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Philippines
            Americans win, taking Philippines from Japanese with 1 artillery, 6 fighters and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery
        Cleaning up after air battles

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        2 destroyers moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 22 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 22 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        2 carriers and 2 fighters moved from 22 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 6 carriers, 2 cruisers and 1 marine moved from 22 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Marianas to 35 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 22 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        6 fighters moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 22 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        3 submarines moved from 22 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        4 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
        1 marine moved from Persia to 80 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 marine and 2 transports moved from 80 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from 72 Sea Zone to Tanganyika Territory
        2 fighters moved from Northwest Persia to India
        1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
        2 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Morocco to 92 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone
        3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
        3 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Southern France
        2 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        2 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 bomber moved from Western United States to United Kingdom
        1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Western Germany to Southern France
        1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Southern France

    Place Units - Americans
        2 carriers and 1 destroyer placed in 6 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 harbour and 2 infantry placed in Persia
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Southern France
        4 infantry placed in Central United States
        1 fighter placed in Eastern United States
        1 submarine placed in 101 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 65 PUs; end with 65 PUs
        Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 Optional[PUs]; end with 70 Optional[PUs]
        Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 Optional[PUs]; end with 75 Optional[PUs]
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 85 PUs
        Objective Americans 9 Vital Forward Bases: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 90 PUs
        Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 95 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 100 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 105 PUs
        Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 110 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        1 artillery and 10 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Sikang

    Combat - Chinese
        Battle in Sikang
            Chinese attack with 1 artillery and 10 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 10 infantry in Sikang, round 2 : 2/11 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Sikang, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Sikang
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Sikang
            Chinese win, taking Sikang from Japanese with 1 artillery and 9 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese

    Place Units - Chinese
        2 infantry placed in Manchuria

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 6 PUs; end with 8 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 2 fighters and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 bomber moved from Persia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
        1 mech_infantry moved from Rhodesia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
        1 mech_infantry moved from Tanganyika Territory to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
        1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone

    Combat - British
        Battle in Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            British attack with 1 bomber and 2 mech_infantrys
            Italians defend with 1 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 mech_infantrys in Anglo Egyptian Sudan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Anglo Egyptian Sudan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            British win, taking Anglo Egyptian Sudan from Italians with 1 bomber and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
        1 bomber moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Tanganyika Territory
        2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Tanganyika Territory
        1 destroyer moved from 80 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 80 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
        3 transports moved from 80 Sea Zone to 71 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 80 Sea Zone to India
        2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from West India to India
        1 artillery moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
        2 tactical_bombers moved from Persia to India
        1 fighter moved from Persia to Russia

    Place Units - British
        3 infantry placed in Union of South Africa
        2 fighters placed in United Kingdom
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by British from United Kingdom: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Southern France: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 27 PUs; end with 27 PUs
        Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 Optional[PUs]; end with 30 Optional[PUs]

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        3 infantry placed in India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 5 PUs; end with 5 PUs
        Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 Optional[PUs]; end with 8 Optional[PUs]
        Some Units in India change ownership: 3 infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0.17
Americans regular : 3.00
Italians regular : -0.33
Japanese regular : 0.00
Germans AA : -0.17
British regular : 0.00

Savegame

I will proceed assuming no intercept or scramble since the intercept can’t prevent bombing and my scramble odds are 100%. Obviously if you want to do so, you can let me know and we can reroll that.

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 10

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 10

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 2 artilleries and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 armour moved from Belarus to Archangel
              Russians take Archangel from Germans
        1 armour moved from Archangel to Novgorod
        2 artilleries, 15 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Novgorod
        2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
        5 infantry moved from Bryansk to Rostov
        1 fighter moved from Russia to Western Ukraine
        1 fighter moved from Russia to Rostov
        1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
        1 infantry moved from Vologda to Urals
              Russians take Urals from Germans
        1 infantry moved from Samara to Novosibirsk
              Russians take Novosibirsk from Germans

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Novgorod
            Russians attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 15 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
            Germans defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 4 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 15 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys in Novgorod, round 2 : 4/21 hits, 4.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 4 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
                4 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
            Russians win, taking Novgorod from Germans with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 12 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 4 infantry
        Battle in Ukraine
            Russians attack with 1 artillery and 6 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 factory_minor and 3 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 6 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 aaGun and 3 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine
                1 aaGun owned by the Germans and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 5 infantry in Ukraine, round 3 : 1/6 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
            Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 1 artillery and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun and 3 infantry
        Battle in Western Ukraine
            Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
            Russians win, taking Western Ukraine from Germans with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Battle in Rostov
            Russians attack with 1 fighter and 5 infantry
            Germans defend with 3 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 5 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 0/6 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 5 infantry in Rostov, round 3 : 0/6 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Rostov, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Rostov
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Rostov, round 4 : 1/5 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Rostov, round 4 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Rostov
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Rostov
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Rostov, round 5 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Rostov, round 5 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Rostov, round 6 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Rostov, round 6 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Rostov
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Rostov
            1 fighter owned by the Russians retreated
            Germans win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -9
            Casualties for Russians: 5 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 fighter moved from Rostov to Russia
        1 aaGun and 15 infantry moved from Vologda to Russia
        1 fighter moved from Western Ukraine to Russia
        2 infantry moved from Smolensk to Russia
        1 aaGun moved from Belarus to Novgorod
        26 infantry moved from Bryansk to Russia
        1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
        1 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
        2 aaGuns and 15 infantry moved from Amur to Korea

    Place Units - Russians
        2 artilleries and 5 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 22 PUs; end with 22 PUs
        Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 28 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 2.67
Russians regular : -2.67

Savegame

@zlefin Im not at my computer now but I realize I may not have accounted for the naval base in 19. Thanks for the heads-up. Lets play on anyway. It’s perfectly reasonable to make me pay for that mistake

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 9

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 9

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
              Chinese take Manchuria from Japanese

    Combat - ANZAC

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 artillery moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from 25 Sea Zone to Midway
        1 fighter moved from Korea to 25 Sea Zone
        2 armour moved from New South Wales to South Australia
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from South Australia to Queensland
        1 fighter moved from New South Wales to Queensland
        1 submarine moved from 63 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 56 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone

    Place Units - ANZAC
        2 submarines and 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 11 PUs

    Combat Move - French

    Non Combat Move - French
        1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 7

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 7

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 4 infantry and 9 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to Finland
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Baltic States to Novgorod
        3 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Novgorod
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Rostov to Caucasus
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Rostov to Volgograd
        2 bombers moved from Germany to Caucasus
        1 bomber moved from Germany to Tambov
        2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Volgograd
        1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Tambov
        1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
              Germans take Normandy Bordeaux from French

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Novgorod
            Germans attack with 3 armour and 4 mech_infantrys
            Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 mech_infantry
                Germans roll dice for 3 armour and 4 mech_infantrys in Novgorod, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                1 aaGun owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
                Germans roll dice for 3 armour and 4 mech_infantrys in Novgorod, round 3 : 1/7 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Novgorod, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
                Germans roll dice for 3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys in Novgorod, round 4 : 2/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Novgorod, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
            Germans win, taking Novgorod from Russians with 3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11
            Casualties for Russians: 1 aaGun, 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
        Battle in Finland
            Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Russians defend with 1 armour
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Finland, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Finland, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Finland
                1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Finland
            Germans win, taking Finland from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Russians: 1 armour
        Battle in Tambov
            Germans attack with 2 bombers, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Russians defend with 2 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Tambov, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Tambov, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Tambov
            Germans win, taking Tambov from Russians with 2 bombers, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
        Battle in Volgograd
            Germans attack with 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
            Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Volgograd, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Volgograd
            Germans win, taking Volgograd from Russians with 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Caucasus
            Germans attack with 2 bombers, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            ANZAC defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Caucasus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Caucasus
                1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Caucasus
            Germans win, taking Caucasus from Russians with 2 bombers and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        2 bombers moved from Caucasus to Bryansk
        2 bombers moved from Tambov to Bryansk
        1 bomber moved from Bryansk to Germany
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Volgograd to Rostov
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Rostov to Bryansk
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Tambov to Bryansk
        1 fighter moved from Rostov to Ukraine
        5 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Rostov to Bryansk
        1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Bryansk
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Finland to 112 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Ukraine
        3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Slovakia Hungary
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany
        1 infantry moved from Western Germany to France
        1 aaGun moved from Norway to Finland

    Place Units - Germans
        1 armour and 9 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
        1 infantry placed in Western Germany
        3 artilleries placed in Ukraine
        3 infantry placed in France

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 5
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,3
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,2,1,3
        Germans collect 57 PUs (5 lost to blockades); end with 57 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 Optional[PUs]; end with 62 Optional[PUs]
        Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 77 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -1.00
Germans regular : 0.17

Savegame

@zlefin apologies for the delay… SHould be able to play more regularly going for the next few days I think.

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 9

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 9

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 2 factory_minors, 3 fighters and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans

    Combat - Americans
        Americans creates battle in territory 6 Sea Zone

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        4 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 101 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
        4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        4 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        2 fighters moved from 91 Sea Zone to Norway
        1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
        3 fighters moved from Western United States to 91 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 2 destroyers and 6 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 63 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        3 fighters moved from New Zealand to 54 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
        1 fighter moved from New Zealand to 54 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from New Zealand to 25 Sea Zone
        8 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
        1 artillery, 1 battleship, 7 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 3 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 25 Sea Zone to Midway
        1 armour, 4 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Finland to Norway

    Place Units - Americans
        1 destroyer placed in 112 Sea Zone
        2 fighters placed in Norway
        1 factory_minor placed in Finland
        1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Eastern United States
        Americans undo move 4.
        1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Central United States
        1 bomber and 1 fighter placed in Eastern United States
        1 factory_minor placed in Korea

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 44 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,2,1,6
        Americans collect 60 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 62 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 72 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 82 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
              Chinese take Yunnan from Japanese

    Combat - Chinese

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        1 fighter and 13 infantry moved from Shensi to Kweichow

    Place Units - Chinese
        2 infantry placed in Shensi
        2 infantry placed in Kweichow
        Chinese undo move 2.
        1 infantry placed in Kansu
        1 infantry placed in Kweichow

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 9 PUs

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific repair damage of 2x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 
        UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 bomber moved from India to Burma
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from India to Burma

    Combat - British
        Battle in Burma
            British attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry
            Japanese defend with 2 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Burma
            British win, taking 6 Sea Zone from Japanese, taking Burma from Japanese with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
        1 bomber moved from Burma to Northwest Persia
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
        2 fighters moved from Egypt to Northwest Persia
        2 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
        5 infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
        1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to Norway
        1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Finland to Norway
        1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from West India to India
        1 aaGun moved from India to Burma
        2 fighters moved from India to Northwest Persia
        1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
        3 infantry moved from Shensi to Kweichow

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        1 artillery placed in India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs; end with 6 PUs
        Some Units in India change ownership: 1 artillery

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : -0.67
British regular : 1.33

Savegame

@zlefin its an easy thing to miss. And it wasn’t the only thing holding up my turn as I’m still thinking about a couple of options. Its just that they have more range and so good to know if I’m dealing with a fig and tac or two figs. A small difference. If you are fine with 2 figs I’ll proceed, but still likely later today or even tomorrow before I am able to do the turn,

@zlefin I actually need to know which of your german air are on the italian carriers.