I’m just catching up on these posts so apologies if I missed anything.

I’m not opposed to the changes proposed around cruisers and Battleships and I’m curious about how the game plays with more of them on the board. Although I’m not sure what the price point is that makes them more common. Air has the advantage of being relevant to both land and sea whereas naval has very limited relevance to land, although I suppose that is also an argument to change the relative pricing of naval units relative to air. And at least with BM the marine unit mitigates that somewhat.

For air, while I’m also not opposed to trying something I am more hesitant about reversing the relative costs of figs and tacs/bombers. Figs are definitely the most common buy but, unlike naval purchases, I do see all 3 bought regularly. And I think because figs are the defensive unit and tacs and bombers are offensive there is some logic to the current relative costs . The axis need to play offensively (and in my experience they are consequently more likely to buy tacs and bombers) and the allies need to play defensively for much of the game (and so primarily buy figs until late game if they have managed to go on the offensive) So making offensive units more expensive does help mitigate against the axis advantages and changing it the other way might impact game balance to the benefit of the axis.

I think it is a good idea to make sure that people don’t have too much trouble finding opponents to play. That is both in the interests of some players individually but it is also in our collective interest. If some players, and especially new players, have difficulty finding opponents, than we will have trouble keeping people in the league and getting new people to join.

I don’t think mismatched games are necessarily a problem. It may be less interesting for the better players but it is a good learning experience for newer players and helps them become more competitive in the long run.

At the same time, I don’t want to add to the work of those who manage the league. So I would support an ELO system if it can be implemented in a way that doesn’t add to Gamerman’s work.

If that is too complicated, another option is just to score tier 3 the same way as tier 2. M and some E ranked players would still lose score in those games, but they would lose less, and everyone else would still go up.

Also, its worth noting, with new players at least, that losses to E and M players increase their average. There is a very good chance that players who start out at tier 3 will end up at tier 1 or 2 by the end of the year, and the more losses they have to E and M ranked players the more likely that is. So there is less of a disincentive than might appear at first.

@amon-sul welcome back!

the majority is still BM but games of ptv and oob are pretty common too. Bids for BM have moved to around 20 lately (although I think that is a little high).

I’m not opposed to trying an ELO (or another) system either but would worry that the small sample size is going to mess it up more substantially. I do think past results should matter each new year (As far as I’m aware, in the current scoring, they just matter until someone has played 3 games and then their score is based on the outcome of the games played in the current year. So their effect is to increase the score of the opponent in the early games). And I also think we need a reset each year to ensure some variation in who gets to play in the league finals. A longer term ELO with the relatively small number of games played may make it harder for new (or much improved) players to break in.

My view is that if it isn’t (that) broke don’t fix it. I don’t doubt there are some issues with scoring. But we are a small amateur (and very niche) league with a small number of games played and with variation in the number of games played by player. Nothing is going to be perfect. And I don’t think changes in scoring will dramatically shift how the final standings look. Of course if we can use a method that is more streamlined, easier to use (not just for gamerman but for who comes after), I’m not opposed to that either. But the existing method of scoring doesn’t strike me as particularly onerous either.

And if we want to avoid having too many players ranked E or M one way to address it is to just to shift the thresholds where one crosses over. E could be set at 5 and M at 6 or higher for example and that would spread things out more.

@gamerman01 I think I know the big game of which you speak! And I agree that AA is underrated.

I’ll add that in large battles, even with the battle calculator average, adding AA (as long as they would be able to roll a die) is comparable to buying figs in terms of its impact. And since so many smaller attacks involve small numbers of land units supported by several air, having one AA in the mix really complicates the choices for the attacker.

That single AA in Caroline Islands has probably won some games for Japan.

@lmterrell welcome to A&A! As barnee says, triplea is a good way to play online and for free. But if you do want the boardgame itself, it probably just depends on what you are looking for. If you are new to this kind of boardgame or you want something that is lighter and quicker (games that take an evening rather than a few days) you are probably better off with the 1942 or 1941 versions, at least to start. The Europe and Japan 1940 games are a bit more complicated and they combine for a Global game. These ones require quite a time commitment though and games can last days.

I’ve been playing online for a bit so I’m a bit rusty on the physical versions of the games but that is my sense. And if you are looking for people to play against the online game and this site are a good resource.

I like Oysteilo’s choices except I would hesitate on the sub in 110, the inf in Yunnan, and the transport in 71.

Yunnan increases the chances for a Yunnan disaster for Japan, but Japan is almost always going to go for it and the most likely outcome is just China losing one more inf.

The transport is probably only useful if you are fairly sure you are going to hit the Italians first in Ethiopia. But I think they often have other priorities that would demand the other units needed.I suppose it can go to Persia to allow the India transport to go to the islands, but I think the islands are often a mistake on UK1.

The sub in 110 is useful because the naval base gives it range but it doesn’t add much to the defense since the German attack there is mostly air and because that is the one spot the Germans are definitely going to hit. 106 may be more useful for defense since it likely blocks that attack or forces the Germans to send 3 subs (in which case the sub can submerge and join the counter)

UK Europe is almost always the best bet for the bulk of the bid since that is the one ally that is certain to be at war in round 1, (so I agree with Oysteilo’s emphasis on that) but I might still consider adding to the pacific. More UK inf in the pacific, or a second ANZAC sub, or Art for China.

Also, the sub in 91 is for me a must, as it discourages an attack on that cruiser (which is an option for Germany if they ignore 111 or 106) and it threatens everywhere the German navy ends up plus the Italian destroyer in 96.

But I haven’t really played much OOB for a while (and never had a chance to play with a 50 bid) so I might be misjudging and identifying things that are more appropriate for BM.

Dawgs input is welcome as well. How the league determines playoffs should be a question that everyone who is playing in league can speak to, although I assume gamerman gets to make the final decision. In past years, multiple playoffs have been set up to include people below the top 8. The point is to find rules that are inclusive enough of the different preferences people have, so that people are not discouraged from participating.

@martin welcome to the league martin!
You can play either BM or OOB here, or other variants such as PTV. The issue is only being able to find opponents that want to play the version you want. More people now play BM here, so if you are not too committed to OOB you may have more luck finding a game if you are willing to play both. BM is fairly close to OOB, but with a little more complexity and a little more balanced. PTV is more substantially different, but I believe it is also still being workshopped.

It can sometimes be hard for new (and unranked) players to find a game right away so you might need some patience. If you don’t get a response in a day or two, it can be worth posting here again … and again. And also look for others posting as well and message them. You will likely have more luck (as a new and unranked player) with players that are lower in the rankings then higher.

It is worth reviewing the league rules and standings to see how they work while you wait for a game. And somewhere on this site, you should find explanations for BM and PTV if you are interested in those.

@oysteilo I did see that. It looks like quite an epic game. I think you are right that Andrew has the edge but you have made it pretty tough for him. I had some thoughts but want to save those for when the game is done.

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 24

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 24

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans repair damage of 4x factory_major; Remaining resources: 79 PUs; 
        Germans buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 17 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 armour moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
              Germans take Slovakia Hungary from Russians
        1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Germany
        1 armour moved from Germany to Greater Southern Germany
              Germans take Greater Southern Germany from Russians
        1 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to Germany
        1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Romania
              Germans take Romania from Americans
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Urals to Evenkiyskiy
        1 mech_infantry moved from Timguska to Evenkiyskiy
        1 bomber moved from Germany to Southern France
        1 bomber moved from Germany to Greece

    Combat - Germans
        Strategic bombing raid in Greece
                Americans roll AA dice in Greece : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
            Bombing raid in Greece rolls: 5 and causes: 5 damage to unit: factory_minor
            Bombing raid in Greece causes 5 damage total. 
        Strategic bombing raid in Southern France
                Americans roll AA dice in Southern France : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
            1 bomber owned by the Germans killed by AA in Southern France
            Bombing raid in Southern France causes 0 damage total. 
        Battle in Evenkiyskiy
            Germans attack with 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys in Evenkiyskiy, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Evenkiyskiy, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Evenkiyskiy
            Germans win, taking Evenkiyskiy from Russians with 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 bomber moved from Greece to Ukraine
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Caucasus to Ukraine
        5 armour and 14 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Eastern Poland
        1 aaGun, 24 artilleries and 52 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
        1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Romania
        1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Slovakia Hungary
        1 infantry moved from Poland to Germany
        1 armour and 6 mech_infantrys moved from Baltic States to Poland
        1 armour and 6 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Germany
        1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Baltic States to Poland
        4 carriers and 1 destroyer moved from 114 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        4 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
        1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
        10 fighters moved from Germany to 112 Sea Zone
        46 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany
        14 artilleries moved from Germany to Western Germany
        3 fighters moved from Germany to Western Germany
        1 aaGun moved from Germany to Western Germany
        1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Germany to Western Germany
        6 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
        1 armour moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
        1 armour moved from Persia to Caucasus
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
        8 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to Caucasus

    Place Units - Germans
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 112 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 7 infantry placed in Western Germany
        10 infantry placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 65 PUs; end with 65 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 Optional[PUs]; end with 70 Optional[PUs]
        Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 90 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans AA : 0.67
Russians regular : -0.33
Germans regular : 0.17

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 13

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 13

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 2 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 7 infantry and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 119 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 119 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Greece to 97 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Libya
        1 infantry moved from Korea to Amur
              Russians take Amur from Japanese
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Soviet Far East to Siberia
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 17 Sea Zone to Siberia
        9 fighters moved from Anhwe to Jehol

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in Libya
        Battle in 119 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
            Germans defend with 1 submarine
                Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 119 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 119 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 119 Sea Zone
            Americans win, taking Libya from Italians, taking 119 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
        Battle in Siberia
            Americans attack with 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Siberia, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Siberia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Siberia
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Siberia
            Americans win, taking Siberia from Japanese with 1 armour and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Jehol
            Americans attack with 9 fighters
            Japanese defend with 2 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 9 fighters in Jehol, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 4.50 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Jehol, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in Jehol
                2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Jehol
            Americans win with 8 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
            Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        8 fighters moved from Jehol to Kweichow
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Siberia to Soviet Far East
        1 transport moved from 4 Sea Zone to 1 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to British Columbia
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
        1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 3 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 3 Sea Zone to Soviet Far East
        2 fighters moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
        2 destroyers moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 5 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 8 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 17 Sea Zone
        3 carriers, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 17 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 17 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        2 carriers moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        3 fighters moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece
        1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
        1 fighter moved from 119 Sea Zone to Scotland
        1 bomber moved from 119 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
        1 fighter moved from Samara to Greece
        1 fighter moved from Samara to Russia
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Midway to 33 Sea Zone
        3 fighters moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from New Zealand to 63 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 63 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands

    Place Units - Americans
        3 infantry placed in Greece
        1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Central United States
        2 transports placed in 10 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry placed in Western United States
        Americans undo move 4.
        1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
        1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 61 PUs; end with 61 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 71 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan
        1 fighter moved from Anhwe to Hunan
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsu
              Chinese take Kiangsu from Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
              Chinese take Hopei from Japanese

    Combat - Chinese
        Battle in Hunan
            Chinese attack with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 4 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 aaGun, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Japanese roll AA dice in Hunan : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 aaGun, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 aaGun owned by the Japanese lost in Hunan
                Chinese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Hunan, round 3 : 2/7 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Hunan, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hunan
            Chinese win, taking Hunan from Japanese with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        1 fighter moved from Hunan to Kweichow

    Place Units - Chinese
        1 infantry placed in Anhwe
        1 infantry placed in Kweichow

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 7 PUs; end with 7 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        2 battleships and 1 cruiser moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Greece to 97 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta
        1 fighter moved from 97 Sea Zone to Malta
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to Malta

    Combat - British
        Battle in Malta
            British attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Italians defend with 2 infantry
                British roll dice for 2 battleships and 1 cruiser in Malta, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Malta, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 2 infantry in Malta, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the British lost in Malta
                2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Malta
            British win, taking Malta from Italians with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for British: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
        1 artillery moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
        1 bomber moved from West India to Greece
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Persia to Greece
        1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
        3 infantry moved from Iraq to Persia
        1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
        1 carrier, 3 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 3 transports moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar
        1 aaGun and 5 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
        1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 23 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia

    Place Units - British
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Persia
        3 infantry placed in Egypt
        2 fighters placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs
        Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 41 PUs

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0.33
Americans regular : 1.67
Italians regular : 1.33
Japanese regular : 0.33
Japanese AA : -0.17
Germans regular : -0.17
British regular : -0.83

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 8 artilleries and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Ukraine
        2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
        1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
              Russians take Western Ukraine from Germans
        6 infantry moved from Amur to Manchuria
        8 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Manchuria
            Russians attack with 14 infantry
            Japanese defend with 3 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 14 infantry in Manchuria, round 2 : 2/14 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 3 infantry in Manchuria, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Manchuria
                Russians roll dice for 14 infantry in Manchuria, round 3 : 1/14 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Manchuria, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Manchuria
            Russians win, taking Manchuria from Japanese with 14 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
            Casualties for Japanese: 3 infantry
        Battle in Ukraine
            Russians attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Ukraine, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
            Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
        Trigger Russians Conquer Japanese Territory By Mongolia: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Mongolia_May_Change_To_Russians_Control_Switch attached to Russians

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Russia
        2 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Tambov
        2 infantry moved from Volgograd to Tambov
        10 mech_infantrys moved from Vologda to Tambov
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Vologda to Russia
        1 fighter moved from Russia to Szechwan
        3 artilleries moved from Bryansk to Tambov
        2 artilleries moved from Russia to Tambov
        2 aaGuns moved from Bryansk to Russia
        1 aaGun moved from Bryansk to Tambov
        16 infantry moved from Bryansk to Russia
        5 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov
        1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov
        1 aaGun moved from Korea to Manchuria
        1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Russians
        8 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in Russia
        1 infantry placed in Volgograd

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs
        Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 Optional[PUs]; end with 33 Optional[PUs]
        Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 Optional[PUs]; end with 35 Optional[PUs]
        Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 Optional[PUs]; end with 37 Optional[PUs]

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : -1.33
Germans regular : -0.33
Russians regular : -1.17

Savegame

@surfer said in BM Surfer (L+15) vs Farmboy (X):

@farmboy Ok. This is a crazy game. I’ve put practically every land unit I have Southern Europe!

yeah this is pretty wild. I don’t think I have seen this number of land units this concentrated ever before. We might be looking at some battles with 400+ units involved in the end game.

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 23

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 23

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians repair damage of 2x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 14 PUs; 
        Italians buy 1 armour and 2 artilleries; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        1 armour moved from Baltic States to Germany
        1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to Western Germany
        1 armour moved from Persia to Caucasus

    Place Units - Italians
        1 armour and 2 artilleries placed in Southern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Italians collect 6 PUs; end with 6 PUs
        Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 4 PUs; end with 10 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 23

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 23

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 1 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
        1 destroyer moved from 43 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from 43 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 43 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 1 submarine and 6 tactical_bombers moved from 43 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Malaya to 35 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from French Indo China to 35 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from French Indo China to 35 Sea Zone

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Celebes
        Battle in 35 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 1 destroyer, 6 fighters, 1 submarine and 6 tactical_bombers
            ANZAC defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 destroyer, 6 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 : 12/15 hits, 8.67 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 destroyer in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 35 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer owned by the ANZAC lost in 35 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking Celebes from Americans with 2 bombers, 1 destroyer, 6 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer
        Battle in 42 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 6 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers
            Americans defend with 1 submarine
                Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 6 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/13 hits, 7.33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 42 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking 42 Sea Zone from Americans with 1 destroyer, 6 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        2 bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to Japan
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Borneo to 43 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Borneo to 43 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        11 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to Japan
        1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Manchuria to Buyant-Uhaa
        1 infantry moved from Timguska to Kansu
        1 infantry moved from Kansu to Suiyuyan
        1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Chahar
        1 infantry moved from Chahar to Buyant-Uhaa
        1 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
        1 aaGun moved from Yunnan to Shan State
        1 aaGun moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
        1 submarine moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State
        1 submarine moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        6 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 2 battleships, 16 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 3 marines, 31 submarines and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from 42 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        4 fighters moved from French Indo China to Japan
        2 tactical_bombers moved from India to 36 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Persia
        2 fighters moved from Caucasus to Southern Italy
        16 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus
        3 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia
        1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
        1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 43 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 36 Sea Zone
        4 fighters and 6 infantry placed in Japan

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 76 PUs; end with 76 PUs
        Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUs
        Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 86 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -0.17
Japanese regular : 1.67
ANZAC regular : 0.67

Savegame

@cwglee51 note that you left a sub in 119. It won’t impact the soviets if that wasn’t intentional and you want to move it elsewhere.

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 13

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 13

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 1 artillery and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 infantry moved from Samara to Novosibirsk
              Russians take Novosibirsk from Italians
        1 infantry moved from Samara to Kazakhstan
              Russians take Kazakhstan from Italians
        2 infantry moved from Samara to Volgograd
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Volgograd
        1 infantry moved from Samara to Tambov
              Russians take Tambov from Germans
        1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Belarus
              Russians take Belarus from Germans
        1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Archangel
              Russians take Archangel from Germans
        1 armour moved from Smolensk to Vologda
              Russians take Vologda from Italians

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Volgograd
            Russians attack with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Volgograd, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Volgograd
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd
            Russians win, taking Volgograd from Germans with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Volgograd to Russia
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Smolensk to Vologda
        1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 25 infantry moved from Smolensk to Russia
        4 artilleries moved from Samara to Russia
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 10 infantry moved from Samara to Vologda
        1 aaGun moved from Russia to Vologda
        2 infantry moved from Samara to Vologda
        1 infantry moved from Samara to Vologda
        1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Samara to Russia

    Place Units - Russians
        1 artillery and 5 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 15 PUs; end with 16 PUs
        Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 9 PUs; end with 25 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 0.67
Russians regular : -1.50

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 12

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 12

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 submarine moved from 57 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone

    Combat - ANZAC
        Battle in 41 Sea Zone
            ANZAC attack with 1 submarine
            Japanese defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 41 Sea Zone
            ANZAC win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 aaGun moved from India to West India
        2 fighters moved from India to Anhwe
        1 fighter moved from Greece to Samara
        1 fighter moved from India to Anhwe
        1 fighter moved from 17 Sea Zone to Korea
        1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland

    Place Units - ANZAC
        1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in New South Wales
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from 33 Sea Zone: 4 submarines
        EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to 6 Sea Zone: 4 submarines
        EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from 33 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to 54 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from 54 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to 6 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 42 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,5
        ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 18 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 23 PUs

    Combat Move - French

    Non Combat Move - French
        1 fighter moved from Greece to Russia
        1 infantry moved from Iraq to Persia

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

@cwglee51 note I assumed no scramble on the UK turn