BM 23 Playoff Final Gamerman (L+4) vs Farmboy (X)

assumed no scramble in n.ita

@peirce

Well, I guess this is it. Two seazones from sz47 to 31, not three :(

The only question is - did I do that subconsciously intentionally or from sheer stupidity?

Let me think a bit about it, whether it has some sense to play some more.

Classic 41824 Round 07 - Russia.tsvg

Game History

Round: 7 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 6 armour and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Russia to Novosibirsk 1 fighter moved from Russia to Novosibirsk Combat - Russians Battle in Novosibirsk Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novosibirsk 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Novosibirsk Russians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 fighter moved from Novosibirsk to East Europe 3 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to East Europe Place Units - Russians 1 infantry placed in Russia 6 armour placed in Karelia S.S.R. Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 26 PUs; end with 27 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : 0,67 Russians regular : 0,33

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 8 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 2 carriers, 1 fighter, 9 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Korea to Northern Manchuria Japanese take Northern Manchuria from Chinese 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Korea to Southern Manchuria 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Hunan to Szechwan 1 tactical_bomber moved from 132 Sea Zone to Szechwan 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 48 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Queensland to 48 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Queensland to 48 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Queensland to 47 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Queensland to 47 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Queensland to Solomon Islands 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 43 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands 1 marine moved from Victoria to 64 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 64 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 64 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 55 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 35 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 56 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Malaya to 132 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 132 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 55 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands Combat - Japanese COMMENT: Skipped scrambels in 47, 48, Solomons due to Odds (90%+) and neg. expected TUV Battle in Solomon Islands Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber Americans defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Solomon Islands, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber in Solomon Islands, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3.17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Solomon Islands, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Solomon Islands 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Solomon Islands Japanese win, taking Solomon Islands from Americans with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry Battle in 48 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 destroyer Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 48 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/7 hits, 4.00 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 48 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 48 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer Battle in 47 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 destroyer Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 47 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 47 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.83 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 47 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 47 Sea Zone Japanese win with 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer Battle in Southern Manchuria Japanese attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Southern Manchuria, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Southern Manchuria 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Southern Manchuria Japanese win, taking Southern Manchuria from Chinese with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Szechwan Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Szechwan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Szechwan Japanese win, taking Szechwan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 tactical_bomber moved from Szechwan to Hunan 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Kwangsi 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State 1 submarine moved from 42 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 132 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 43 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Solomon Islands to 55 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 48 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 3 carriers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 55 Sea Zone to Queensland 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 47 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 48 Sea Zone to Queensland 1 artillery and 1 marine moved from New South Wales to Queensland 1 transport moved from 64 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 4 transports moved from 132 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to French Indo China 2 infantry moved from Japan to Kyushu 1 fighter moved from Japan to 132 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Japan to French Indo China 1 tactical_bomber moved from 7 Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 battleship, 3 carriers and 1 destroyer moved from 7 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 7 Sea Zone to Japan 1 destroyer moved from 21 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 2 carriers placed in 132 Sea Zone 1 infantry placed in Malaya 3 infantry placed in French Indo China 1 fighter and 5 infantry placed in Japan 1 submarine and 2 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 64 PUs; end with 64 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 67 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs Objective Japanese 2 Strategic Defense Perimeter: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 82 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 0.33 Americans regular : -0.33 Japanese regular : -0.17

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 6 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 3 artilleries, 1 fighter, 6 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 submarine moved from 125 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda 1 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov 1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Rostov 1 bomber moved from Greece to Smolensk 1 bomber moved from Greece to Rostov 1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to Rostov 1 fighter moved from Greece to Rostov 1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Vologda 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Vologda 1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Smolensk 1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to Rostov 1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to Rostov Combat - Germans Battle in Rostov Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Rostov, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Rostov Germans win, taking Rostov from Russians with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Smolensk Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Smolensk Germans win, taking Smolensk from Russians with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Vologda Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Vologda, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Vologda, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Vologda, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vologda Germans win, taking Vologda from Russians with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in 123 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 submarine Americans defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 123 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 123 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 123 Sea Zone Germans win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - Germans 1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy 1 fighter moved from Greece to Southern Italy 1 fighter and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Rostov to Greece 1 fighter moved from Greece to 97 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Rostov to Bryansk 1 bomber moved from Smolensk to Bryansk 1 fighter moved from Smolensk to Bryansk 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Bryansk 10 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk 3 armour moved from Novgorod to Bryansk 1 tactical_bomber moved from Vologda to Bryansk 6 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Slovakia Hungary 1 fighter moved from Vologda to Bryansk Place Units - Germans 3 artilleries placed in Ukraine 3 mech_infantrys placed in Novgorod 1 fighter and 3 infantry placed in Western Germany 3 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux 1 submarine placed in 113 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 56 PUs; end with 56 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 63 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 125 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 124 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -0.33 Russians regular : -1.33 Germans regular : 0.50

Savegame

@max334

It was great game, and I still like it. Some very unusual things happened, like you said, but at one moment it broke for Axis.

My opinion is that at some time you lost a clear focus. Axis must take enough cities to win the game, while at some moments I had a feeling that you were focused more on damaging the Allies? For example, taking some territories despite knowing you are not able to hold them, or losing transports for a low profit.

I am not saying I am right, I have seen the game where this kind of approach somehow work, but I am not able to repeat them. And I think it might work better for Allies, as the time usually works for them. As it has proven in this game.

What do you think?

@Gorshak

41003-Gor(X)vAoe(L)-US-15.tsvg

Scramble to Kwangtung and/or SZ20?

Note: Adding a US TT and Inf & Arty to SZ20.

@Gorshak no scramble and ok on the purchase change