18L axis-dominion (+4) vs farmboy (allies) bm3

@farmboy:

sorry. One more change. BB in 109, not 110

ok I’ll make the changes.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Italians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 110 Sea Zone: 1 battleship
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 109 Sea Zone: 1 battleship
            EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these British owned units to: battleship = 1
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 47 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 49 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Italians buy 1 transport; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 96 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 96 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Syria
            1 armour moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Syria
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
                  Italians take Alexandria from British
            1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                  Italians take Anglo Egyptian Sudan from British
            1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya
                  Italians take Kenya from British
            1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Albania to 97 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Trans-Jordan
            Battle in Syria
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                British defend with 1 mech_infantry; French defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Syria, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Syria, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Syria
                Italians win, taking Trans-Jordan from British, taking Syria from French with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for French: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 2 fighters and 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                    Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 96 Sea Zone
                Italians win with 2 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer

Non Combat Move - Italians
            2 fighters moved from 96 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Syria to Southern Italy
            2 infantry moved from Albania to Bulgaria
            2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 aaGun moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            4 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 armour moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
            1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
            1 artillery moved from Libya to Tobruk

Place Units - Italians
            1 transport placed in 97 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3
            Italians collect 13 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 16 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians : 1.50
    British : -0.33
    French : -0.67

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hey man, I just saw somehow I didn’t move the guys to anglo! actually I did, then I accidentally undid it and didn’t notice that, cuz I was in a hurry to take my kids to their soccer practice (in the lobby now and can do my G turn).

can I plz adjust that? and if it affects anz in any way (the two guys in Egypt), then you can redo that.

you can see in the history where I undid it. cuz I was trying to undo something else, but misclicked and undid that instead.

thanks

want to change anything u did for anz?

and I saw your question earlier, just was too crunched to answer that as I was racing to get the turn done and out the door. I will answer later tonight when I’m back home. meanwhile I’ll get the G turn done now before the kids are done with their practice.

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 2

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 1 marine and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Politics - Germans
            Trigger Vichy France Has Occurred: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French

Combat Move - Germans
            1 unit repaired.
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone

Combat - Germans

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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scramble?

@farmboy:

was out on a run when I saw your question. Just checking the ANZAC turn now. There is a chance that I would put the inf on that transport but I doubt it. Will take a quick look now.

No problem just let me know

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 2

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 1 marine and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Politics - Germans
            Trigger Vichy France Has Occurred: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French

Combat Move - Germans
            1 unit repaired.
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone

Combat - Germans
            Battle in 109 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 battleship
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 battleship in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Germans and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in 109 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Alexandria
            2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Alexandria
            1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to 97 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
            2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
            2 aaGuns and 8 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
            1 armour moved from Bulgaria to Romania
            1 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Poland
            1 mech_infantry moved from France to Yugoslavia
            5 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from France to Germany
            1 aaGun moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            3 artilleries moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 fighter moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 cruiser moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from 109 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 artillery moved from France to Western Germany
            1 mech_infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            1 armour moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            1 mech_infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 109 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
            3 transports moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            3 infantry and 3 transports moved from 113 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            3 artilleries moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Germany

Place Units - Germans
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 110 Sea Zone
            1 marine placed in Normandy Bordeaux
            1 submarine placed in 112 Sea Zone
            2 armour and 8 artilleries placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 42 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 47 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 52 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : 0.00
    British : 0.33

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 2

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 1 marine and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Politics - Germans
            Trigger Vichy France Has Occurred: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French

Combat Move - Germans
            1 unit repaired.
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone

Combat - Germans
            Battle in 109 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 battleship
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 battleship in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Germans and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in 109 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Alexandria
            2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Alexandria
            1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to 97 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
            2 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
            2 aaGuns and 8 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
            1 armour moved from Bulgaria to Romania
            1 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Poland
            1 mech_infantry moved from France to Yugoslavia
            5 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from France to Germany
            1 aaGun moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            3 artilleries moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 fighter moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 cruiser moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from 109 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 artillery moved from France to Western Germany
            1 mech_infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            1 armour moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            1 mech_infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 109 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
            3 transports moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            3 infantry and 3 transports moved from 113 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            3 artilleries moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Germany

Place Units - Germans
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 110 Sea Zone
            1 marine placed in Normandy Bordeaux
            1 submarine placed in 112 Sea Zone
            2 armour and 8 artilleries placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 42 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 47 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 52 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from Egypt: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to 81 Sea Zone: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : 0.00
    British : 0.33

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@farmboy:

@axis-dominion:

and I saw your question earlier, just was too crunched to answer that as I was racing to get the turn done and out the door. I will answer later tonight when I’m back home. meanwhile I’ll get the G turn done now before the kids are done with their practice.

No problem. I’m now thinking that I played the UK turn too cautious. The way I’ve played it, I think I can just get better odds on a G3 attack on London (depending on how the bombing goes). Being down two fighters and a bomber (and the lost income from your subs in 106 would have certainly shifted it to you, but the investment to take it would still have been a huge risk and would have put the Soviets in a better position. I’ll be curious what you think of that. I have a tendency to try to give myself the best odds possible on defense even when I can get away with more risk.

I’d also be curious if you would have tried blocking vichy here. I don’t have a great sense of if/when to do that.

I think perhaps one adjustment you could make to what you did is, to buy a tp for s.a. and only 7 inf for London, and then also bring 2 or 3 of the uk pac figs in range to help save Egypt. I think then you could get to reasonable enough odds to save Egypt, yet still pour most of your purchase into the safety of London. I didn’t calculate whether two fewer inf in London would make a big difference, but I suspect it should be enough to dissuade the germans from going for it.

as for Vichy, every now and then I do that by transporting in troops to s.france, just to spice up the game a little and make it a different experience. there are tradeoffs, but most of the time I don’t bother to do it.

@axis-dominion:

@farmboy:

@axis-dominion:

and I saw your question earlier, just was too crunched to answer that as I was racing to get the turn done and out the door. I will answer later tonight when I’m back home. meanwhile I’ll get the G turn done now before the kids are done with their practice.

No problem. I’m now thinking that I played the UK turn too cautious. The way I’ve played it, I think I can just get better odds on a G3 attack on London (depending on how the bombing goes). Being down two fighters and a bomber (and the lost income from your subs in 106 would have certainly shifted it to you, but the investment to take it would still have been a huge risk and would have put the Soviets in a better position. I’ll be curious what you think of that. I have a tendency to try to give myself the best odds possible on defense even when I can get away with more risk.

I’d also be curious if you would have tried blocking vichy here. I don’t have a great sense of if/when to do that.

I think perhaps one adjustment you could make to what you did is, to buy a tp for s.a. and only 7 inf for London, and then also bring 2 or 3 of the uk pac figs in range to help save Egypt. I think then you could get to reasonable enough odds to save Egypt, yet still pour most of your purchase into the safety of London. I didn’t calculate whether two fewer inf in London would make a big difference, but I suspect it should be enough to dissuade the germans from going for it.