Have the UK distract Germany in North Africa while the US builds transports.
Could elaborate this a little bit?
Keep Germany from gaining Africa so the US has time to send transports over.
Can't Seem to Win as Allies,…Help!
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When I say they are outproducing me, I mean in Europ and Eurasia. Which, Russia always purchases INF. 4 in Cauc, 4 in Moscow. Problem is, Russia is capable of buying as many infantry as Germany is capable of purchasing tanks. So, T1 Russia builds 8 inf, T2 builds 9, T3 builds 8, T4 builds 8, T5 builds 8 for a total of 41 inf, right? Mkay. In those same 5 turns, Germany has produced 40 tanks and Japan has produced 24. That leaves Russia with 82 constructed defense to fight against the axis’ 192 combined constructed offense. See how this gets ugly?
My plan for today is to either attack WEurope or Finland/Norway on T3, whichever is most opportune. My navy will consist of 6 transports, 1 russian sub, 1 US AC fully loaded with US fighters, 2 US destroyers, 1 UK Battleship. My invasion force will be 6 inf, 4 art, 2 armor, and what is left of my airforce after the battle for the baltic (hopefully 1 fighter and 1 bomber). Western Europe seems like the best idea, because USA is set to reinforce it on T3, denying Germany the opportunity for a successful counterattack on T4. On T4, UK (me) will place 8-9 inf in WEurope to reinforce. USA will remove all troops from WEurope and seige Finland/Norway, hopefully winning. If the US wins there, an IC will be built. Russia will begin a hardcore offensive on T4, because Germany will not be able to reinforce the West and the East simultaneously.
4. That Kwang tranny will die today. They can’t continue to roll 1’s forever.
5. UK was reinforced from US.
6. Impossible to sink! Germany woulnd’t dare send the Luftwaffe after 3 battleships, 2 destroyers, and a loaded carrier. He can’t rebuild his airforce if he is buying 8 tanks a turn. But agreed, it does take too long.
7. No tanks. INF only. The plan is to hold out long enough to get the allies there. -
But all those tanks can’t reach Moscow instantly, esp if Japan’s IC’s are at Fic and or Kwa. Anyway, that’s another story.
What do you do on Russia 1?
Here’s a conservative play:
Buy 5 inf, 1 rt, 1 arm
Attack Wrus with almost everything that can reach and move in the AA gun from mos for added defense.
Land ftrs in Cauc, non com 2 inf to Cauc from Kaz, move maybe 1-2 tanks (not involved in Wrus attack) to Cauc. Retreat remaining inf out East 1 space West. Place 3 inf, 1 rt in Cauc, rest inf to Mos.Slightly more aggressive:
Attack Wrus and Ukr (with 3 inf, 1 rt, 2-3 arm , 2 ftrs)
In the Ukr attack if you bring in 2 arm you try to take, if you bring in 3 you do 2 rds of attack and retreat back to Cauc with arm and ftrs.
The goal: to kill the Ger inf, rt and arm for only the cost of your inf, rt, while saving all your arm.If Ger buys 8 arm, UK and US can immediately go to Alg on T1. UK can counter Egy or Fortify about 4 inf in Per with an AA gun.
If UK does go to Alg, buy maybe 1-2 ftrs rest troops for UK.
US can buy AC and trn with troops for the Atlantic.
Land Allied ftrs in Wrus to help Russia when they get in range.
Germany should not have the inf to support their tanks, meaning when they get in range, strafe them with the Russian offensive power. Trade you inf for his arm, then retreat to repeat the process again next turn. Never lose your arm though.
If he keeps his armor back a territory to protect it, then trade the leading ter with minimal troops, maybe 2-3 inf and 2 ftrs to attack.
I would suggest buying at least 1-2 armor a turn with Russia. Don’t forget they defend at 3. And you don’t have to attack, but you can maintain at least the threat of attack due to the range and attacking power of tanks.
If you get Russia to about 7,8,9 tanks by rd 3 or 4, the Axis aren’t as likely to advance so quickly.
Also consider a 3 inf, 3 arm R1 buy, it is a bit more aggressive, but you instantly give yourself 7 armor and 2 ftrs to play with.
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When I say they are outproducing me, I mean in Europ and Eurasia. Which, Russia always purchases INF. 4 in Cauc, 4 in Moscow. Problem is, Russia is capable of buying as many infantry as Germany is capable of purchasing tanks. So, T1 Russia builds 8 inf, T2 builds 9, T3 builds 8, T4 builds 8, T5 builds 8 for a total of 41 inf, right? Mkay. In those same 5 turns, Germany has produced 40 tanks and Japan has produced 24. That leaves Russia with 82 constructed defense to fight against the axis’ 192 combined constructed offense. See how this gets ugly?
No. The Allies should make it so Germany simply cannot afford to build 8 tanks a turn. That means UK/US transports. NOT battleships, but transports and infantry and fighters. A few Allied tanks are good to have as well.
My plan for today is to either attack WEurope or Finland/Norway on T3, whichever is most opportune. My navy will consist of 6 transports, 1 russian sub, 1 US AC fully loaded with US fighters, 2 US destroyers, 1 UK Battleship. My invasion force will be 6 inf, 4 art, 2 armor, and what is left of my airforce after the battle for the baltic (hopefully 1 fighter and 1 bomber). Western Europe seems like the best idea, because USA is set to reinforce it on T3, denying Germany the opportunity for a successful counterattack on T4. On T4, UK (me) will place 8-9 inf in WEurope to reinforce. USA will remove all troops from WEurope and seige Finland/Norway, hopefully winning. If the US wins there, an IC will be built. Russia will begin a hardcore offensive on T4, because Germany will not be able to reinforce the West and the East simultaneously.
Norway should usually fall by T2, but T3 WEurope is way too early. It doesn’t matter what you invade with, they will get their asses kicked. Unless your opponent = noob, and can’t counter your attack. One thing I’ll mention - don’t count your chickens before they’re hatched. You can have this awesome plan about how you are going to take your shotgun and go around blasting demons, but if you don’t have any shotgun shells, and there aren’t any demons, you are going to have a problem.
4. That Kwang tranny will die today. They can’t continue to roll 1’s forever.
The Kwangtung transport is important enough I’ve seen the UK send its carrier and destroyer to get it, or the destroyer and fighter.
5. UK was reinforced from US.
Yey
6. Impossible to sink! Germany woulnd’t dare send the Luftwaffe after 3 battleships, 2 destroyers, and a loaded carrier. He can’t rebuild his airforce if he is buying 8 tanks a turn. But agreed, it does take too long.
That’s kind of the point, it takes too long. Also, it’s not usually the Luftwaffe that poses a real threat to Allied navy. It’s the Luftwaffe and the German navy. If both hit, you lose your fleet, Germany keeps its air force, you have to rebuild from scratch, Germany doesn’t. Anyways - forget the d*** battleships, build some transports. If you are moving 6 infantry into Norway / Karelia / Eastern Europe a turn, that throws a big fat wrench into Germany’s plans. If you run UK and US transport fleets, you can usually get as many as 14 infantry into Norway a turn. Takes a long ass time to set up, but you can see how 14 inf a turn could cause problems for Germany.
7. No tanks. INF only. The plan is to hold out long enough to get the allies there.
OK. You know your little sister? Yeah, I mean your three year old sister. And you know Mike Tyson? Well, lemme tell ya, if Mike Tyson does nothing but block, your little sister can kick Mike Tyson’s ass. Same thing. If you build nothing but infantry, you can’t respond to Axis threats, and you have absolutely nothing to convince the Axis to stay the hell back. I recommend building infantry and TANKS with Russia initially, switch to infantry and artillery when the Axis are knocking on the Allies’ door.
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are you playing with N/A?
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The reason you may not be able to win is because you just posted your strategy for tomorrow!!
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From what I can tell, you are playing with 8 VC and out of box rules, correct?
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If you want, follow my league games for Allied.
I’ve only played allied there, as my bid doesn’t ever win.
My strategy stays pretty much the same. No game is ever the same, but I believe in Russian Inf w/ about equal Tanks. There is nothing worse than losing board position because you only have inf.
What makes armor great is that you can use them to halt Japan from advancing, then turn around and threaten Germany if they venture too far.
Germany is always worse as a giant, so I put my efforts to thwart their advances.
Against a very good Japan player, KJF is very tough.
I’ll admit, I’m tougher with Japan than Germany. However, my overall axis play is OK, but I will only play them with a certain bid.
If you are losing to the axis with no bid, but 8 VC, then I understand.
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It sounds like an 8VC game if they lose when India falls.
As the allies, I usualy set up one big UK funnel into eastern europe, and with the US, I harass all of the mediterranean, and Russia builds infantry and a few artillery to prepare for a big breakout. With the allies coming at all sides, Germany is bound to collapse at one point or another, usually when the US takes Southern Europe and when Russia reaches eastern europe to help the UK on the offensive.
That funnel into EEU really messs up germany, especially since it seems most german players use that route to move troops east.
Ive seen some strategies where the US just uses the existing eastern transports to move troops into africa or up to britain while they build a pacific fleet and hit japan where it hurts, but I dont like to spread out the US resources. Japan really is a bitch when they get rolling though, 4 transports of troops each turn can be disheartening.
I once played a noob that got lucky with bad allied buys. He bought 2 bombers for the UK and US on their first turns, and the German economy collapsed. The only reason I didnt disentigrate in the first few turns was because of my extra IPCS i got from having no resistance in africa.
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About the bombers, if the U.S. and U.K. both bomb, they can kill 32 IPC’s of German income a turn. If the player is smart enough to secure Africa first, then Germany won’t be able to survive.
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8 VC would be the problem… up it to 9, then have at it as the Allies against those Axis moves :-D
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Where are you guys getting 8 VC from?
I can’t read! :-D
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Mr. Moore,
Don’t take this the wrong way but the Allies have a clear advantage, (thus the bidding system which is used to lessen the allies advantages) therefore your play must be extremely weak or inexperienced.
If you want to improve your play, I humbly recommend that you visit the game threads in either the league or the tourney and study the victories posted by allied players. This will assist you in your endeavor far more than following the thoughts posted in this thread.
Good luck and I hope to see you in the league someday.
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Where are you guys getting 8 VC from?
I can’t read!  :-D
Thinking OOB ruleset and seemingly quick victories.
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