@largowin said in Rockets have a firing range of 3 or 4?:

Thanks for the link to the latest rules. If I understand correctly, can I use these rules with my 2004 version of the game?

No, use the ones you already have. The rules I provided the link for are for newer games.

Honestly, if it’s speed you want, the game you’re looking for might be… Axis & Allies & Zombies. Have you tried turning off the zombies, cards, and techs and just playing this version otherwise straight out of the box? The board is a modernized and lightly simplified Revised board; the pieces, costs, and rules are modernized Revised pieces… IPC values are a bit lower but otherwise this might be a great fast option; much better and richer than AA41.

Regarding revised,

@domanmacgee said in Converting Revised To The Modern Era? (emphasis mine):

@all-encompassing-goose Compared to the more “modern” games like 1914, G40 and even AA50 to an extent, Revised’s map is pretty simple (meaning games on Revised are a lot faster than those three).

This. Revised is simpler and faster than 42, 42.2, AA50, and either P/E40 individually.

To keep things moving/modern, I would use some of the more salient bits from LHTR 2.0:
1. Allow fighters to land in Sea Zones that are about to gain newly-built Aircraft Carriers
2. Turn off AAA fire during NCM

Next, for speed and simplicity:
3. Ditch the NAs and Tech rules.
4. Move the Purchase Units phase to after NCM, so the turn just goes
- Combat move
- Combat
- NCM
- Purchase & Mobilize Units
- Collect Income
5. Use a laptop & spreadsheet to publicly track VCs and IPC income levels on a TV or wall projector in the room
6. Use battle dice to simplify and greatly speed up die-rolls.

Finally, I would do what @DoManMacgee suggests above and pick territories corresponding to a modern VC set - like the below - and then set a threshold for victory, like 15/20 or even 13/20 at the end of the US turn.

Ottowa New York London Paris Berlin Rome Warsaw Leningrad Stalingrad Moscow Cairo Calcutta Singapore Manila Shanghai Hong Kong Sydney Tokyo Honolulu San Fransisco

My old group could play Revised in <4 hours; faster for games that are conceded early due to failed (or successful!) gambits, bad dice, and other shenanigans.

@krieghund Your answer and the FAQ are super helpful – thank you!

@krieghund yes, that is what I meant

@the-captain

Amazing!

@slip-capone

We played a couple, then moved onto a week-long game of Global. I like “Revised” quite a bit, but my usual opponent is none-too-happy with the ability of transports to shoot back.
; )

Omg thank you so much!!! I will definitely donate, thank you! @Midnight_Reaper !

@justluthor
From the Revised FAQ:

"Q. The Nonaggression Treaty allows the USSR to place four units in the territory Japan attacks
first. What if the Japanese player attacks two or more red territories on the same turn?

A. In that case, the Soviet player chooses which of the territories being attacked gets the four infantry."

@cernel That’s quite a loophole you’ve discovered. It’s things like this that made LHTR necessary. You are correct about point 1. Regarding point 2, I see nothing in the rules that would disallow attacking an unoccupied enemy-controlled territory with only air units.

Transports are no different than other units in this game as regards casualties. They don’t need to be taken last, and they are not automatically destroyed when alone. If you choose to sacrifice your warships to protect your transports, they can retreat if they survive.

Ok. Thanks for clarifying that for me.

They cannot be taken as casualties under any circumstances other than being cargo on lost transports.

The point of agreement on how to represent additional units is that all players can easily recognize what each proxy represents in order to facilitate game play, and it should be reached before starting the game. Anyone who would use this to attempt to gain some sort of advantage is someone you should think twice about playing with.

Correct.

@ponef The season 14 tournament already started several months back: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/1364/revised-tournament-of-champions-toc-14-st-nazaire-raiders. I think season 15 will be posted in the next few months as that one winds down.

@ponef In regards to what? This thread kind of wound up diverting itself in like 3 different directions:

Whether UK should retake Egypt B1 Vs. send the FTR from the India Carrier over to the US Pearl Harbor Fleet. Whether Japan should attack the Pearl Harbor Fleet, the UK India Fleet, or both on J1. Whether UK should attack Borneo B1 or not.

The answer to basically all of these boiled down to some combination of “it depends on how the dice went G1” and “are you playing under WBC Rules or not”. Seeing as WBC no longer runs tournaments for Revised (or any A&A, for that matter), we’re left to assume all games being played will be OOB rules (or at least LHTR), in which case Egypt suddenly becomes much less of a priority in the grand scheme of things.

Personally, I got to try the strategy out at the 2018 WBC in one of my games. It worked well for me, as Japan was routinely baited into attacking the USN, losing the TT and the DD in the process. This allowed me to wipe out the remaining IJN Fleet A1 (Bomber from East USA + FTR from West USA + Navy from US West Coast + FTR from Hawaii). This crippled the IJN and let me rapidly come to dominate the Pacific.

@ponef that’s okay, not an issue anymore. I’ll delete the post

Yes, that is technically bridging.

@gbb8brm Welcome to the forum 🙂
As long as the seazone that surrounds the island does not contain any blocking enemy ships it is friendly and may be passed through. The seazone is not part of the territory.

@ohwrm said in Are either of these the National production Chart for the 2004 revised edition?:

I’m missing it and currently trying to find one to print out but since I don’t know what it looks like, I’m having difficulties

http://ernestangely.org/queensland/how-to-find-index-units-aviation.php

The Production Chart at the top of this page is for some version of A&A Global 1940 (the admixture of A&A Europe 1940 and A&A Pacific 1940). While nifty looking, it won’t help you much with A&A Revised.

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/9982/new-national-production-national-objectives-chart

This Production Chart is also for A&A 1940, in this case A&A Pacific 1940.

https://boardgamegeek.com/image/63235/axis-allies?size=large

This production chart is for the Milton Bradley version of A&A. Again, nifty looking, but it won’t help you much with A&A Revised.

or if anyone has the game, if they could send me a photo that would be seriously appreciated (I’m also missing the Reference Chart for the Soviet Union)

By finding BGG, you’ve hit on a source of information about A&A, you just haven’t found the right mine shaft to explore. Instead of looking at BGG’s Nova Games & Milton Bradley A&A page, try BGG’s Avalon Hill A&A (A&A Revised) page. Yes, they are both “helpfully” named “Axis & Allies”. This is both technically correct and wildly unhelpful. That said, the BGG A&A Revised page has much information, to include:
A picture of the production and weapons development charts for Milton Bradley Axis & Allies and Avalon Hill Axis & Allies, AH on top and MB on bottom.(source)

But there are also resources on this website that can help you. The front page to the site has a link to “Rules & Downloads”. Going there will land you on a page of basic information about the different A&A games. Scroll down until you get to the “Axis & Allies Revised (2004)” section. You will have two options, a link to download a pdf version of the rules for the game and a link to a setup chart for the game. The setup chart gives you the unique information found on Reference Chart for the Soviets (the rest of the information on the chart is about the names, abilities, and prices for the units in the game, information that is duplicated both in the rule book and on the other four reference charts.

If you want to duplicate the look of a reference chart, combine the reference chart from another country with the setup from here. You might find a picture of another country’s reference chart here.

I hope that helps.

-Midnight_Reaper

@Cernel said in Revised Submerge/Withdraw Order:

This simple different wording would have probably made all crystal clear, and saved this whole (and other!) discussions, as well as my question.

I suppose that those dicussions lead to a clearer wording in LHTR and are one reason why submerging submarines had been moved to another step during ‘Conduct Combat’ starting from and including the Anniversary ruleset.

@redrum I am very short on time as I am leaving until Sunday so please allow me to simply point you to this thread, where all of this has been discussed and clarified in depth:
https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/989/aa-revised-minor-bug
We have a Github issue for this here: https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/issues/4133

Thank you for your understanding.