Axis & Allies Discussion & Older Games

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  🎲😢 Bad Dice Support Group
  • djensen  

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  I would refer to this thread: https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/21731/hall-of-shame-tales-of-the-worst-dice-ever/47?page=2
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  Overpurchasing and undermobilizing
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  @Cernel said in Overpurchasing and undermobilizing: Are you sure that it is impossible to purchase more units than you can mobilize, in Classic? You’re right, it’s not impossible. I hadn’t considered those possibilities. However, this is, in fact, covered in the rules. On page 21 it states that any units that cannot be placed are returned without refund. @Cernel said in Overpurchasing and undermobilizing: To summarize, this is what I now understand the rules are: OVERPURCHASE In all games from Classic 1st Edition to Anniversary, you can freely overpurchase (either by mistake or intentionally). Correct. In all games from Spring 1942 1st Edition, you can overpurchase only as long as nobody calls you out during the phase in which you do it (and, then, you need to affirm that you did it unintentionally). You also need to correct it. UNDERMOBILIZE In all games from Classic to the latest ones (all the same) you are forced to mobilize the highest possible number of units, once in the Place/Mobilize Units phase. Correct. Then, I still have some items I’m not sure about. This is my understanding: 1- In Classic, I can purchase a sea unit that I can possibly place only if I clear a sea zone for it, yet, during the Combat Move phase, I don’t have to attempt to do it. 2- In Classic, I can purchase an AA that I can possibly place only if I move out an existent AA, yet, during the Non-Combat Move phase, I don’t have to move any AA (being forced to mobilize as many units as possible applies only to the Place Units phase, never forcing me to make moves so to mobilize as many units as possible). Yes, but I don’t know why you would do either of these things intentionally, as you would forfeit the purchased units. 3- In Revised and following, if, for example, I have only two IC, one in a value 8 and another one in a value 1 territory, while only the value 1 territory is adjacent to the sea, and I purchase 8 infantry and 1 battleship, then I’m obliged to place the 8 infantry in the value 8 territory and the 1 battleship in the value 1 territory. Meaning that I’m not allowed to place 1 infantry in the value 1 territory and 7 infantries in the value 8 territory, losing the battleship (since, at this point, I couldn’t mobilize it anymore, due to the placement actions I already defined). Therefore, the battleship purchase makes me unable to place 1 infantry in the value 1 territory, in this case. Correct.
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  Rules for East & West , War in 1948
  • Midnight_Reaper  

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  I also posted this request in the “Home / Customizations / Other Axis & Allies Variants” section. -Midnight_Reaper
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  AAZ with one of these 'older games'?
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  I hope this is the correct place to ask this. Did anyone try to play one of these older games (as discussed in this forum) with AAZ? So say Axis and Allies D-Day (one of my favourites BTW) with AAZ? thrasher,
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  What is the most interesting place you have played A&A?
  • J.o.C.  

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  The most interesting place I have played A&A would be on a coffee table inside an MWR (Morale, Welfare, and Recreation) building on an Army base in South Korea with three other US Army Sergeants. -M_R
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  Ground troops taking hits instead of planes
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  Yes its my game face to face with house rules. As far as Japan AA they had the good french guns on them from what I read. Plus for game play they all get it for now in game. d12 BB @1 = 8.3 % CR @2 = 16.6 % The man plane killer. That"s it for ships I don’t want to probably ever make each country piece correct based on Historic so try to find the middle balance and not overwelm the group. We do have a bunch of other stuff in game to change each game some what and that’s plenty to remember. https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/33862/ss-gen-s-1941-global-war-game/181
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  New Ideas
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  @CEllis62 Hi CEllis62 welcome to the site. Which particular game ?
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  Does anyone have tournament rules for 1942 2nd edition or revised?
  • Panzerboy0191  

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  @Panzerboy0191 Unfortunately, the WBC no longer supports Axis and Allies (or many wargames these days), mostly due to the shift in nature of that tournament away from wargames and towards more traditional “Euro-games” (think Power Grid, Settlers of Catan, etc.). However, Greg Smorey hosts A&A events at Origins and Gen Con every year, if you’re in the neighborhood. See @Midnight_Reaper 's post for more details.
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  How many troops are represented by an Infantry unit
  • fantasticfan  

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  Thats 3-5 corps depending on nation and theater of war= army
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  Axis And Allies Wikipedia False Info
  • Playing Kid  

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  Winston Churchill Quotes A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.
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  Campaign Journal
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  Yes I agree, I especially use it when I am testing new rules. They help me remember what I need to revise.
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  How long is a turn in real life?
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  Guest said in How long is a turn in real life?: I think each round is supposed to be 3 months. That is exactly how we play it
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  Are Cruisers for Losers? A video discussion
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  @SS-GEN I’ve added some houserules for the CA. Most are community feedback. Not many have tried them that I know and don’t consider myself a good enough player to evaluate them all that well. “BBandCA_AA” Battleships now have 1 AA shot and Cruisers 2. They hit at 1 out of 10 as opposed to 1 out of 6. It is recommended to wait until RD 2 to activate BB and CA AA Guns. This prevents breaking early RD battles and reflects the early war successes in air to naval combat. If “PlanesTargetNaval” and or “PlanesTargetNavalCV” has been activated, AA shots will also fire when Attacking. They will hit at 1 out of 12 on the attack and remain 1 out of 10 on defense. May also be activated via Map Options. “PlanesTargetNaval” Fighters and Tactical Bombers now target Cruisers and Battleships prior to regular combat. Fighters get 1 shot that hits at 1 out of 12. Their shots do not stack. Tactical Bombers hit at 2 out of 12. Their shots do not stack. Also Tac Bombers will Defend with “1” 1 in 12 shot against Cruisers and Battleships which will not stack and Fighters will Defend at 1 in 12, which will not stack. Round 2 activation is recommended as well as using “BBandCA_AA” tech with this option. May also be activated via Map Options. Note If “SubsCanEvadeDestroyers_ChangerMustActivate” tech has been activated and Submarines are present, they will also be targeted by Tactical Bombers, along with Cruisers and Battleships. “PlanesTargetNavalCV” Fighters and Tactical Bombers now target Battleships, Cruisers and Carriers prior to regular combat. Fighters get 1 shot that hits at 1 out of 12. Their shots do not stack. Tactical Bombers hit at 2 out of 12. Their shots do not stack. Also Tac Bombers will Defend with “1” 1 in 12 shot against Battleships, Cruisers and Carriers which will not stack and Fighters will Defend at 1 in 12, which will not stack. Round 2 activation is recommended as well as using “BBandCA_AA” tech with this option. I haven’t played this in a while and only have a few games tested. I think it’s probably pretty good as far as equal chances of killing stuff. A lot going on but I crunched the numbers hard and took fodder units into account as well as other factors. For a simpler version I’d just give Cruisers 1 AA shot at 1 in 6. Drop em to 11 bucks
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  big tech
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  I envision a future axis and allies roll out as mods or packs like Magic or DnD. So the 42 map and rules are the base set. Then you have your mod map that is bigger and biggest. Then you have mod for the set ups 39, 40, 41. Then you have a mod for the battle for the skies (SBRs), battle for the atlantic (sub v destroyer), battle for the oil fields (house rules that play with movement restrictions based on oil supply), and a mod for the technology race. Put them all together or play them in parts or keep it simple. I would throw in there differing victory condition mods and youtuber house rules edition.
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  Artillery or Tanks... Which is better?
  • CorporalClegg  

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  A few months ago I asked this question here on the forums. Thanks to @Tizkit , @Imperious-Leader , @SS-GEN and @DoManMacgee for their ideas. I finally got around to putting a video together which you can find here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrhBEZFiFXg Cheers!
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  How the phases are called and how I would call them (not sure)
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  A&A II (Classic) A&A Revised A&A Anniversary TripleA my ideas Develop Weapons Develop Weapons Research & Development Research Technology Research Technology Purchase Units Purchase Units Purchase Units Purchase Units Procure Units Combat Movement Combat Move Combat Move Combat Move Commit Units Combat Conduct Combat Conduct Combat Combat Conduct Combat Non-Combat Movement Noncombat Move Noncombat Move Noncombat Move Reposition Units Place New Units On Gameboard Mobilize New Units Mobilize New Units Place Units Form Units Collect Income Collect Income Collect Income Turn Complete Collect Resources I have some doubts about the way phases are called around. If you say “Purchase Units”, I think you should, then, say “Combat Move Units”, not just “Combat Move”, or, vice versa, say just “Purchase”, instead. The “New” in “Mobilize New Units” feels redundant, as it sounds like you can also mobilize units that are not new, instead, in some other phase. “Collect Income” feels a bit redundant too, as “Income” already implies it is what you are getting (and it is not income anymore once you have collected it, saving it or spending it). I tried searching “collect income” on Google and got a mere 408,000 results, of which some are cases like “In the Nordic countries it is common practise to collect income data from various administrative registers”. On the other hand, unsurprisingly, I get 3,530,000 results with “collect money”, 1,490,000 with “collect funds” and 1,240,000 with “collect resources”. Also, I never liked the term “Purchase”, as creating armies is really not all about purchasing, unless maybe you are dealing with a scenario in which virtually everything is mercenary. Mind you, I don’t believe there can be perfect terms, in the moment a same action can refer to an infantry, a battleship or an industrial complex unit. Just wondering if there could have been better names for the phases, especially referring to the way TripleA normally calls them. Also, English is not my first language; so I’m not so sure if my suggestions are good. About this, is the “Turn Complete” definition of TripleA correct, or should it be either “Turn Completed” or “Complete Turn”? I’ll point out that phases can be called either referring to the game as a game (you are placing pieces of plastic on a board (virtually so, if third edition or TripleA)) or to the game as what it is tentatively representing (you are mobilizing armies around the world). The most obvious example of a change of perspective on this matter is going from the “Place New Units On Gameboard” of the second edition to the “Mobilize New Units” of the Revised and following; maybe a sign of the game taking itself more seriously. How would you call the phases or what version do you think has the better naming?
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  Teaching
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  And thanx to all for the input and concern
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  Artillery or Tanks... Which are better?
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  @DoManMacgee While I already understood these concepts, I really enjoyed reading these examples. Thanks for the detail you provided, much appreciated!
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  Are Bombing Raids Worth The Risk? A Video Discussion
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  Nice video. Ya when u crunch the numbers it’s not really a good idea to SBR in certain times. For me the bomber in g40 is to strong. Also the dam rule for the major factory needs to be modified for SBR to be worth it for sending 2 or 3 bombers. Try doing this. Stg. Bomber SBR dam 1d6 +3.
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  What version are these for?
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  … and the other two are the victory point and turn trackers for Battle of the Bulge.
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  Are Strategic Bombing Raids Worth It?
  • CorporalClegg  

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  @barnee said in Are Strategic Bombing Raids Worth It?: @Linkon yea naval battles can be pretty big swings. Usually why my games just have US and Jpn staring at each other lol Not by me. Ain’t got time to stare ! Lol
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  List of Sculpts
  • Krieghund  

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  Thanks, what a re-post. A thread for the ages.
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  My trouble with dice - and are casino dice the answer?
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  Build your own maybe? https://hackaday.com/2017/12/10/spice-up-your-dice-with-bluetooth/
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  Axis & Allies balance problems …
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  My Transport rule suggestion. I do have most of this for my transports. D6 A0 D@1 plane only. C6 M2 ES @1 Any planes in a naval battle with defending transports. Can take transport as a causality but loses the D@1 against a plane. No planes in a naval battle can’t take transports as a causality. Lone Transports against Ships and planes. The attacker has to kill the transports . Non of this cop out crap with lone transports all dead. WTF. They can escape. This will prolong the battle at most 5 mins. This only happens 1-4 times in a game. A transport gets a D@1 plane shot if killed if there is planes in battle. No planes then the ship or ships have to kill the transport. Now the transport only gets a escape roll if he survives the round of attack. No escape roll for a sub FS. 2 Dest and 1 Sub attacking 3 lone transports. Attacker rolls for 2 dest a 4 and a 5. both misses. 1 sub rolls FS shot of a 1. I killed transport. No escape. Now the 2 transports roll for escape and get a 1 and 6. 1 transport escapes to another sz or stays in same sz and then next round of combat the attackers only get to attack 1 transport. Works great in my game. We ave 2-4 transports surviving per game. But it gives you more options to use transport in naval battles.
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  Global or Anniversary for better 6 player game?
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  42 is closer to even balance out OOB, and debatably a little quicker. It may be worth looking at that for the first game and try the more unique(compared standard games) 1941 scenario after.