14L G40 captain walker (axis) vs Dawgoneit (allies +10) game 2

[captainwalker]

gamerman has stated that’s not a legal move. You’re going to have to edit your units that were placed in Soviet Far East back to Alaska and then figure out if you want your transports in sz2 or sz3… and you may want to edit some of the moves you did with your dd’s. If you want to use your transports next turn then you probably should edit some of the dd you moved to sz3 to protect them.
Go ahead and do the edits and then repost…I’ll check everything out after you post.

[dawgoneit]

I do not under stand why. I don’t see it in the rules.

[dawgoneit]

I can move them after the battle seems they are not actually in the battle rite

[dawgoneit]

I also don’t under stand how you can put subs in waters where there are destroyers with out battling them

[captainwalker]

If the transports stay in a seazone that has a battle, then they are considered to have participated in combat.
page 22 Europe rule book states…
Phase 4: Noncombat Move
In this phase, you can move any of your units that didn’t move in the Combat Move phase or participate in combat
during your turn.

I’ll try to find something in the rule book about your sub question and you could post a question regarding that matter in the Global 2e faq.

[captainwalker]

page 32 Europe 2e rulebook….
Treat Hostile Sea Zones as Friendly: A submarine can
move through a sea zone that contains enemy units,
either in combat or noncombat movement. However,
if a submarine enters a sea zone containing an enemy
destroyer, it must end its movement there. If it ends its
combat move in a hostile sea zone, combat will occur.

[dawgoneit]

that’s not saying that the combat has to happen during your turn or mine.

[captainwalker]

if Japan moves a sub into sz3 during combat move then combat would occur on Japan’s turn. If Japan moves a sub into sz3 during non combat move then combat would occur on your turn …if you choose to do combat.

[captainwalker]

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=28562.1185
this is a link from the global faq regarding the transport question

[dawgoneit]

ok. I’m sorry about all the questions. gamerman just confirmed it all for me. of course in your favor. would you please put my transports with my fleet and move the pieces back. I learned something new today. I guess I got that out of the way early. LOL.
again I am sorry.

[captainwalker]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 armour moved from Northwest Persia to Persia
                  Italians take Persia from British
            1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Persia

Combat - Italians

Non Combat Move - Italians
            2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
            2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
            2 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Romania
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece

Place Units - Italians
            1 infantry placed in Southern Italy
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Northern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs total
            Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 4 PUs; end with 21 PUs

Territory Summary for Italians :

Romania : 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Northern Italy : 2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 1 factory_major, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
    Southern Italy : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 3 fighters, 1 harbour and 7 infantry
    Rostov : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    Eastern Poland : 1 flag
    Western Ukraine : 1 flag
    Bulgaria : 2 infantry
    Greece : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    97 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 destroyer and 1 transport
    Northwest Persia : 1 flag, 1 armour
    Persia : 1 flag, 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 52 / 81
    Russians : 18 / 15
    Japanese : 56 / 65
    Americans : 51 / 71
    Chinese : 9 / 15
    British : 36 / 43
    UK_Pacific : 8 / 3
    Italians : 17 / 21
    ANZAC : 10 / 11
    French : 6 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[captainwalker]

I’m glad that matter is all cleared up.
Here’s a tip…when someone tries that trick on you, you don’t HAVE to do combat with the subs. You can just ignore them and move your transports, but if you move your transports or do combat…you won’t be able to load the transports.

[dawgoneit]

can I move and load the transports and bring them back in to the battle?

[captainwalker]

I know you can if you’re making an amphibious assault.
But I think if you move them and load then move back into battle you won’t be able to unload them on a non combat move because they were in a sea zone where combat occurred.
But I’m not real sure about that…

[dawgoneit]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 destroyer and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 3 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 4 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 46 Sea Zone to New Guinea

[dawgoneit]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 destroyer and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 3 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 4 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 46 Sea Zone to New Guinea

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in New Guinea
                ANZAC attack with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in New Guinea, round 2 :  2/2 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in New Guinea, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the ANZAC and 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in New Guinea
                ANZAC win, taking New Guinea from Japanese with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 fighter moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 aaGun moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 aaGun moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 destroyer placed in 62 Sea Zone
            1 infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs total

Territory Summary for ANZAC :

Queensland : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    New Zealand : 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    New South Wales : 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    New Guinea : 1 armour
    46 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    63 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    62 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    Egypt : 2 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 52 / 81
    Russians : 18 / 15
    Japanese : 56 / 65
    Americans : 51 / 71
    Chinese : 9 / 15
    British : 36 / 43
    UK_Pacific : 8 / 3
    Italians : 17 / 21
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 6 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 3 times
        Average roll : 1.000
        Median : 1.000
        Variance : 4.500
        Standard Deviation : 2.121
        Total rolls : 3

Japanese Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 1.000
        Median : 1.000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

ANZAC Combat
            1 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 1.000
        Median : 1.000
        Variance : 4.000
        Standard Deviation : 2.000
        Total rolls : 2

[dawgoneit]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 8

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French
            2 infantry moved from Eire to Scotland

Turn Complete - French

Territory Summary for French :

Egypt : 2 infantry
    Scotland : 2 infantry
    Eire : 1 flag

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 52 / 81
    Russians : 18 / 15
    Japanese : 56 / 65
    Americans : 51 / 71
    Chinese : 9 / 15
    British : 36 / 43
    UK_Pacific : 8 / 3
    Italians : 17 / 21
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 6 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 3 times
        Average roll : 1.000
        Median : 1.000
        Variance : 4.500
        Standard Deviation : 2.121
        Total rolls : 3

Japanese Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 1.000
        Median : 1.000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

ANZAC Combat
            1 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 1.000
        Median : 1.000
        Variance : 4.000
        Standard Deviation : 2.000
        Total rolls : 2

[dawgoneit]

i hope its ok but i edited one of my American destroyers in the way.

[captainwalker]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 9

Politics - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 9 infantry, 5 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            2 submarines moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Southern France to Holland Belgium
            3 fighters moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Volgograd to Samara
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Novgorod to Samara
            1 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk
                  Germans take Smolensk from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
                  Germans take Archangel from Russians
            1 armour moved from Novgorod to Vologda
                  Germans take Vologda from Russians

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Samara
                Germans attack with 1 fighter, 3 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 6 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 3 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers in Samara, round 2 :  3/8 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 6 infantry in Samara, round 2 :  2/7 hits
                    3 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Samara
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers in Samara, round 3 :  2/6 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Samara, round 3 :  0/4 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Samara
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers in Samara, round 4 :  3/6 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Samara, round 4 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Samara
                Germans win, taking Samara from Russians with 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13
                Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 6 infantry
            Battle in 112 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 3 fighters and 2 submarines
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                    Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 112 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 112 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 3 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                Germans attack with 2 bombers and 3 infantry
                British defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 3 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 :  3/5 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium
                Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from British with 2 bombers and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            2 bombers moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            5 infantry moved from Southern France to France
            3 fighters moved from 112 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 aaGun moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
            5 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            2 artilleries moved from Karelia to Novgorod
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Samara to Volgograd
            4 armour moved from Ukraine to Volgograd
            1 artillery moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
            1 aaGun moved from Karelia to Novgorod

Place Units - Germans
            3 infantry placed in Ukraine
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 112 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Volgograd
            3 infantry placed in Novgorod
            1 bomber placed in Western Germany
            5 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            1 infantry placed in France
            1 artillery placed in Western Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 59 PUs; end with 59 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs
            Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 79 PUs

Territory Summary for Germans :

Normandy Bordeaux : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Southern France : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    France : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_minor and 6 infantry
    Western Germany : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 3 bombers, 1 factory_major, 3 fighters, 1 harbour and 5 infantry
    Germany : 1 factory_major and 5 mech_infantrys
    Norway : 1 artillery
    Denmark : 3 infantry
    Holland Belgium : 2 infantry
    Belarus : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Karelia : 1 flag, 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys
    Baltic States : 1 flag
    Vyborg : 1 flag
    Archangel : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Eastern Poland : 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys
    Bessarabia : 1 flag, 1 artillery
    Ukraine : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 7 infantry
    Vologda : 1 flag, 1 armour
    Volgograd : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 4 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
    Novgorod : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 2 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Caucasus : 1 flag
    Smolensk : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Samara : 1 flag, 2 mech_infantrys
    112 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer and 2 submarines
    Bulgaria : 1 flag
    Yugoslavia : 1 flag
    Finland : 1 flag

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 59 / 79
    Russians : 14 / 15
    Japanese : 56 / 65
    Americans : 51 / 71
    Chinese : 9 / 15
    British : 33 / 43
    UK_Pacific : 8 / 3
    Italians : 17 / 21
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 6 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[dawgoneit]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 9

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
                  Russians take Western Ukraine from Italians
            2 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk
            2 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Samara
            1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Samara
            7 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Rostov
            2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Rostov
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Smolensk
            1 armour moved from Bryansk to Vologda
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Samara
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Smolensk
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Rostov
            3 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Samara