14L G40 captain walker (axis) vs Dawgoneit (allies +10) game 2

[dawgoneit]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Yunnan
                Chinese attack with 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Yunnan, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 :  0/2 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Yunnan, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 4 :  0/2 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Yunnan, round 4 :  0/1 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 5 :  0/2 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Yunnan, round 5 :  0/1 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 6 :  1/2 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Yunnan, round 6 :  0/1 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
                Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery

Non Combat Move - Chinese

Place Units - Chinese
            3 infantry placed in Szechwan
            Chinese undo move 1.
            1 infantry placed in Shensi
            1 infantry placed in Kweichow
            1 infantry placed in Tsinghai

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 9 PUs total
            Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 15 PUs

Territory Summary for Chinese :

Shensi : 1 infantry
    Yunnan : 2 infantry
    Kweichow : 1 infantry
    Tsinghai : 1 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 57 / 81
    Russians : 18 / 15
    Japanese : 56 / 65
    Americans : 51 / 71
    Chinese : 9 / 15
    British : 33 / 41
    UK_Pacific : 8 / 9
    Italians : 15 / 17
    ANZAC : 10 / 11
    French : 6 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 5 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 8 times
            4 was rolled 9 times
            5 was rolled 7 times
            6 was rolled 5 times
        Average roll : 3.771
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 1.324
        Standard Deviation : 1.150
        Total rolls : 35

Japanese Combat
            3 was rolled 6 times
            4 was rolled 3 times
            5 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3.500
        Median : 3.000
        Variance : 3.556
        Standard Deviation : 1.886
        Total rolls : 10

Italians Combat
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 6.000
        Median : 6.000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

Chinese Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 4 times
            5 was rolled 2 times
            6 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 4.200
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 1.333
        Standard Deviation : 1.155
        Total rolls : 10

Americans Combat
            1 was rolled 4 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 2 times
            5 was rolled 4 times
            6 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 3.500
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 0.769
        Standard Deviation : 0.877
        Total rolls : 14

[dawgoneit]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 8

Combat Move - British
            1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Egypt to Iraq
            1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
            1 bomber moved from Egypt to Iraq
            1 mech_infantry moved from India to Shan State

[dawgoneit]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 airfield, 1 cruiser and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Egypt to Iraq
            1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
            1 bomber moved from Egypt to Iraq
            1 mech_infantry moved from India to Shan State

Combat - British
            Battle in Iraq
                British attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                Germans defend with 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Iraq, round 2 :  3/7 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Iraq, round 2 :  1/4 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British and 3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Iraq
                    British roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 2 mech_infantrys in Iraq, round 3 :  0/6 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Iraq, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 2 mech_infantrys in Iraq, round 4 :  1/6 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Iraq, round 4 :  0/1 hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Iraq
                British win, taking Iraq from Germans with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Holland Belgium

Non Combat Move - British
            2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar
            1 fighter moved from Scotland to Gibraltar
            2 cruisers moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
            1 destroyer moved from 125 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 bomber moved from Iraq to Egypt
            1 destroyer moved from 96 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 96 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 96 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Libya to 96 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 armour moved from 81 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya

Place Units - British
            1 airfield placed in Gibraltar
            1 cruiser and 2 transports placed in 110 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 38 PUs; end with 38 PUs total
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 43 PUs

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            3 infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 5
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 37 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,3,6,6,3,3,6,4,6,6
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 39 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,6,1,5
            UK_Pacific collect 3 PUs (5 lost to blockades); end with 3 PUs total
            Some Units in India change ownership: 3 infantry

Territory Summary for British and UK_Pacific :

Siam : 1 flag
    Shan State : 1 mech_infantry
    India : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 2 fighters, 1 harbour, 6 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
    Iceland : 1 airfield
    Quebec : 1 factory_minor
    Gibraltar : 1 airfield, 3 fighters and 1 harbour
    New Brunswick Nova Scotia : 1 harbour
    Egypt : 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    Union of South Africa : 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Scotland : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield and 4 infantry
    Malta : 1 aaGun
    United Kingdom : 4 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter, 1 harbour, 13 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Tunisia : 1 flag
    Holland Belgium : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Tobruk : 1 flag
    Libya : 1 flag, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Italian Somaliland : 1 flag
    Ethiopia : 1 flag
    112 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    125 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    109 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    Iraq : 1 flag, 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 mech_infantrys
    92 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
    Eastern Persia : 1 flag
    81 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    Persia : 1 flag
    98 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    110 Sea Zone : 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 3 transports

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 52 / 81
    Russians : 18 / 15
    Japanese : 56 / 65
    Americans : 51 / 71
    Chinese : 9 / 15
    British : 38 / 43
    UK_Pacific : 8 / 3
    Italians : 15 / 17
    ANZAC : 10 / 11
    French : 6 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 10 times
            2 was rolled 5 times
            3 was rolled 24 times
            4 was rolled 16 times
            5 was rolled 19 times
            6 was rolled 24 times
        Average roll : 4.031
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 3.031
        Standard Deviation : 1.741
        Total rolls : 98

Null / Other
            1 was rolled 1 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 10 times
            4 was rolled 4 times
            5 was rolled 2 times
            6 was rolled 6 times
        Average roll : 3.958
        Median : 3.500
        Variance : 2.696
        Standard Deviation : 1.642
        Total rolls : 24

Japanese Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 10 times
            4 was rolled 4 times
            5 was rolled 2 times
            6 was rolled 6 times
        Average roll : 3.958
        Median : 3.500
        Variance : 2.696
        Standard Deviation : 1.642
        Total rolls : 24

Germans Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            5 was rolled 4 times
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 4.500
        Median : 5.000
        Variance : 2.400
        Standard Deviation : 1.549
        Total rolls : 6

British Combat
            1 was rolled 2 times
            2 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 2 times
            4 was rolled 2 times
            5 was rolled 5 times
            6 was rolled 6 times
        Average roll : 4.263
        Median : 5.000
        Variance : 0.944
        Standard Deviation : 0.972
        Total rolls : 19

Italians Combat
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 6.000
        Median : 6.000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

Chinese Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 4 times
            5 was rolled 2 times
            6 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 4.200
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 1.333
        Standard Deviation : 1.155
        Total rolls : 10

Americans Combat
            1 was rolled 4 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 2 times
            5 was rolled 4 times
            6 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 3.500
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 0.769
        Standard Deviation : 0.877
        Total rolls : 14

[captainwalker]

I noticed you moved your US transports during combat move and then moved them again during non combat move…I don’t think that’s a legal move.
I posted a question on the global faq to check on it…

[captainwalker]

gamerman has stated that’s not a legal move. You’re going to have to edit your units that were placed in Soviet Far East back to Alaska and then figure out if you want your transports in sz2 or sz3… and you may want to edit some of the moves you did with your dd’s. If you want to use your transports next turn then you probably should edit some of the dd you moved to sz3 to protect them.
Go ahead and do the edits and then repost…I’ll check everything out after you post.

[dawgoneit]

I do not under stand why. I don’t see it in the rules.

[dawgoneit]

I can move them after the battle seems they are not actually in the battle rite

[dawgoneit]

I also don’t under stand how you can put subs in waters where there are destroyers with out battling them

[captainwalker]

If the transports stay in a seazone that has a battle, then they are considered to have participated in combat.
page 22 Europe rule book states…
Phase 4: Noncombat Move
In this phase, you can move any of your units that didn’t move in the Combat Move phase or participate in combat
during your turn.

I’ll try to find something in the rule book about your sub question and you could post a question regarding that matter in the Global 2e faq.

[captainwalker]

page 32 Europe 2e rulebook….
Treat Hostile Sea Zones as Friendly: A submarine can
move through a sea zone that contains enemy units,
either in combat or noncombat movement. However,
if a submarine enters a sea zone containing an enemy
destroyer, it must end its movement there. If it ends its
combat move in a hostile sea zone, combat will occur.

[dawgoneit]

that’s not saying that the combat has to happen during your turn or mine.

[captainwalker]

if Japan moves a sub into sz3 during combat move then combat would occur on Japan’s turn. If Japan moves a sub into sz3 during non combat move then combat would occur on your turn …if you choose to do combat.

[captainwalker]

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=28562.1185
this is a link from the global faq regarding the transport question

[dawgoneit]

ok. I’m sorry about all the questions. gamerman just confirmed it all for me. of course in your favor. would you please put my transports with my fleet and move the pieces back. I learned something new today. I guess I got that out of the way early. LOL.
again I am sorry.

[captainwalker]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 armour moved from Northwest Persia to Persia
                  Italians take Persia from British
            1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Persia

Combat - Italians

Non Combat Move - Italians
            2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
            2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
            2 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Romania
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece

Place Units - Italians
            1 infantry placed in Southern Italy
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Northern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs total
            Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 4 PUs; end with 21 PUs

Territory Summary for Italians :

Romania : 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Northern Italy : 2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 1 factory_major, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
    Southern Italy : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 3 fighters, 1 harbour and 7 infantry
    Rostov : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    Eastern Poland : 1 flag
    Western Ukraine : 1 flag
    Bulgaria : 2 infantry
    Greece : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    97 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 destroyer and 1 transport
    Northwest Persia : 1 flag, 1 armour
    Persia : 1 flag, 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 52 / 81
    Russians : 18 / 15
    Japanese : 56 / 65
    Americans : 51 / 71
    Chinese : 9 / 15
    British : 36 / 43
    UK_Pacific : 8 / 3
    Italians : 17 / 21
    ANZAC : 10 / 11
    French : 6 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[captainwalker]

I’m glad that matter is all cleared up.
Here’s a tip…when someone tries that trick on you, you don’t HAVE to do combat with the subs. You can just ignore them and move your transports, but if you move your transports or do combat…you won’t be able to load the transports.

[dawgoneit]

can I move and load the transports and bring them back in to the battle?

[captainwalker]

I know you can if you’re making an amphibious assault.
But I think if you move them and load then move back into battle you won’t be able to unload them on a non combat move because they were in a sea zone where combat occurred.
But I’m not real sure about that…

[dawgoneit]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 destroyer and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 3 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 4 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 46 Sea Zone to New Guinea

[dawgoneit]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 destroyer and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 3 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 4 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 46 Sea Zone to New Guinea

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in New Guinea
                ANZAC attack with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in New Guinea, round 2 :  2/2 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in New Guinea, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the ANZAC and 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in New Guinea
                ANZAC win, taking New Guinea from Japanese with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 fighter moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 aaGun moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 aaGun moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 destroyer placed in 62 Sea Zone
            1 infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs total

Territory Summary for ANZAC :

Queensland : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    New Zealand : 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    New South Wales : 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    New Guinea : 1 armour
    46 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    63 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    62 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    Egypt : 2 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 52 / 81
    Russians : 18 / 15
    Japanese : 56 / 65
    Americans : 51 / 71
    Chinese : 9 / 15
    British : 36 / 43
    UK_Pacific : 8 / 3
    Italians : 17 / 21
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 6 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 3 times
        Average roll : 1.000
        Median : 1.000
        Variance : 4.500
        Standard Deviation : 2.121
        Total rolls : 3

Japanese Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 1.000
        Median : 1.000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

ANZAC Combat
            1 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 1.000
        Median : 1.000
        Variance : 4.000
        Standard Deviation : 2.000
        Total rolls : 2