13L Playoff R1 Wheatbeer (+16) v Gamerman01(x)

[gamerman01]

OK, this one needed TWO nights sleep.
I woke up knowing what to do.
But not before dreaming about the game.  More of a nightmare, really.

There were extra territories around Egypt that you had a stranglehold on.  One of them was worth 3 IPC’s.  I had taken Egypt with Italian transports, but you took it right back.  At least I stopped production for a round…. I was wondering without looking at the map if you had at least left my transport alone, using the air to secure Egypt.

I controlled Malta but not Cyprus.

UK collected 97 IPC’s (and this is not counting India).  I was thinking, how is this possible, when you’re not even getting the NO for original territories?  I started counting territories and IPC’s.  Egypt was and extra 5 IPC NO for UK.  I didn’t finish, because I woke up.  And no, I was not sweating.  But boy am I glad to wake up and see a UK making only 30!

[gamerman01]

The decision that came to me immediately upon waking up -
Concede Hong Kong.  I was trying to defend too many places Wednesday.

Still a few decisions to make, but I think I can get it done this morning.

India can produce 1-2 units per turn right now
ANZAC can produce 2-3
China can produce 4-5
USA normally produces 5-8

Japan produces 10  (I am thinking about finally building a minor but still not sure)

Takes a lot of RAM to figure out what to do in A&A when being ganged up on  :-)

[boldfresh]

@Gamerman01:

OK, this one needed TWO nights sleep.
I woke up knowing what to do.
But not before dreaming about the game.  More of a nightmare, really.

There were extra territories around Egypt that you had a stranglehold on.  One of them was worth 3 IPC’s.  I had taken Egypt with Italian transports, but you took it right back.  At least I stopped production for a round…. I was wondering without looking at the map if you had at least left my transport alone, using the air to secure Egypt.

I controlled Malta but not Cyprus.

UK collected 97 IPC’s (and this is not counting India).  I was thinking, how is this possible, when you’re not even getting the NO for original territories?  I started counting territories and IPC’s.  Egypt was and extra 5 IPC NO for UK.  I didn’t finish, because I woke up.  And no, I was not sweating.  But boy am I glad to wake up and see a UK making only 30!

[boldfresh]

@Gamerman01:

OK, this one needed TWO nights sleep.
I woke up knowing what to do.
But not before dreaming about the game.  More of a nightmare, really.

There were extra territories around Egypt that you had a stranglehold on.  One of them was worth 3 IPC’s.  I had taken Egypt with Italian transports, but you took it right back.  At least I stopped production for a round…. I was wondering without looking at the map if you had at least left my transport alone, using the air to secure Egypt.

I controlled Malta but not Cyprus.

UK collected 97 IPC’s (and this is not counting India).  I was thinking, how is this possible, when you’re not even getting the NO for original territories?  I started counting territories and IPC’s.  Egypt was and extra 5 IPC NO for UK.  I didn’t finish, because I woke up.  And no, I was not sweating.  But boy am I glad to wake up and see a UK making only 30!

:lol: this was fun to read

[gamerman01]

Hehe, yes, as Axis, if UK is making 97 even for 1 turn that is a nightmare scenario

[gamerman01]

Funny, you know I would never dream that UK is making 0
The deep dark fears come out in the night

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 carrier, 4 destroyers, 3 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Caroline Islands to 25 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Timguska to Novosibirsk
                  Japanese take Novosibirsk from Russians
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kansu to Shensi
            1 bomber moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi
            1 artillery moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 41 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 38 Sea Zone to Burma
            1 infantry moved from Celebes to 44 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 44 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 55 Sea Zone to Northern Territory
            1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Borneo to 43 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Shan State
            2 fighters moved from 41 Sea Zone to Shan State
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 8 Sea Zone to Aleutian Islands
            2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 25 Sea Zone to Midway
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Shan State
            3 fighters moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Aleutian Islands
            Battle in 25 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 submarine and 1 transport
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese win, taking Aleutian Islands from Americans with 1 bomber, 1 submarine and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Midway
            Battle in Burma
            Battle in Northern Territory
            Battle in Shan State
                Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry
                Japanese win, taking Midway from Americans, taking Burma from UK_Pacific, taking Northern Territory from ANZAC, taking Shan State from UK_Pacific with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Kwangsi
                Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win with 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Battle in Shensi
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Shensi from Chinese with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 41 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Shan State to 37 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to 37 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Shan State to 35 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 bomber moved from 25 Sea Zone to Japan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Suiyuyan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Evenkiyskiy to Timguska
            1 infantry moved from Olgiy to Kansu
            1 aaGun, 1 armour, 5 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Hopei
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Chahar to Hopei
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kiangsu
            2 fighters moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 cruiser moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 bomber moved from Shensi to Kiangsu
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Kiangsu
            1 armour moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Philippines
            1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Philippines
            1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to 35 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to 19 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines

Place Units - Japanese
            1 carrier, 4 destroyers, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
            3 infantry placed in Japan

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 67 PUs; end with 68 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs

[JDOW]

@Gamerman01:

Hehe, yes, as Axis, if UK is making 97 even for 1 turn that is a nightmare scenario

Well, my UK made 62 last round vs wheat, Europe looks green and brown/orange (right now) but the Allies are still in a desperate position :-/

Conclusion: Don’t bother too much about UK having a bit more money for few rounds^^

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 bombers, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 54 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 49 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 battleship, 3 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 4 submarines moved from 54 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 3 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 4 submarines moved from 49 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 3 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 4 submarines moved from 47 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 54 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 bomber moved from Queensland to Caroline Islands
            2 fighters moved from Queensland to Caroline Islands
            1 fighter moved from Queensland to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from India to 38 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to 25 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 8 Sea Zone to Aleutian Islands
            1 bomber moved from Western United States to Aleutian Islands
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to 8 Sea Zone

[wheatbeer]

Putting my faith in dice here.

Need scramble orders SZ33

[gamerman01]

Comin’ right up

[gamerman01]

I think you have 7 planes that need to land on carriers in 33 but you only have 3 carriers

The one from Hawaii travelled 4 spaces and must land on a carrier.
The 6 in the Carolines have 1 movement point left and must land on carriers.

Or did I miss something?
Thanks

[gamerman01]

If I am right, I imagine you just hold back the plane from Hawaii that you probably (at a glance) don’t need anyway?

No scrambling, obviously

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 bombers, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 54 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 49 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 battleship, 3 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 4 submarines moved from 54 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 3 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 4 submarines moved from 49 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 3 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 4 submarines moved from 47 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 54 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 bomber moved from Queensland to Caroline Islands
            2 fighters moved from Queensland to Caroline Islands
            1 fighter moved from Queensland to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from India to 38 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to 25 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 8 Sea Zone to Aleutian Islands
            1 bomber moved from Western United States to Aleutian Islands
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to 8 Sea Zone

[wheatbeer]

@Gamerman01:

If I am right, I imagine you just hold back the plane from Hawaii that you probably (at a glance) don’t need anyway?

No scrambling, obviously

Yeah, that’s all I am changing with the repost.

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 bombers, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 54 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 49 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 battleship, 3 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 4 submarines moved from 54 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 3 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 4 submarines moved from 49 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 3 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 4 submarines moved from 47 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 54 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 bomber moved from Queensland to Caroline Islands
            2 fighters moved from Queensland to Caroline Islands
            1 fighter moved from Queensland to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from India to 38 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to 25 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 8 Sea Zone to Aleutian Islands
            1 bomber moved from Western United States to Aleutian Islands
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to 8 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Battle in 8 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 8 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
            Battle in Aleutian Islands
                Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Japanese defend with 2 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Aleutian Islands, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Aleutian Islands, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Aleutian Islands
                    Americans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry in Aleutian Islands, round 3 :  1/2 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Aleutian Islands, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Aleutian Islands
                Americans win, taking Aleutian Islands from Japanese with 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Battle in 33 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 4 submarines and 3 transports
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                    Americans roll dice for 4 submarines in 33 Sea Zone, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 33 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 transport owned by the Japanese and 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 33 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 4 submarines and 3 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in Caroline Islands
                Americans attack with 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 4 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                Japanese defend with 3 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 3 fighters, 1 harbour, 5 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                    AA fire in Caroline Islands :  3/7 hits
                    3 fighters owned by the Americans lost in Caroline Islands
                    Americans roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Caroline Islands, round 2 :  5/10 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 3 aaGuns, 3 fighters, 5 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Caroline Islands, round 2 :  5/10 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Americans , 2 infantry owned by the Japanese , 3 aaGuns owned by the Japanese and 4 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Caroline Islands
                    Americans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers in Caroline Islands, round 3 :  2/5 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Caroline Islands, round 3 :  5/8 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Americans , 1 artillery owned by the Americans , 2 infantry owned by the Japanese , 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Americans and 1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in Caroline Islands
                Japanese win with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -67
                Casualties for Japanese: 3 aaGuns and 4 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 4 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            Battle in 38 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 fighter
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 38 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
            Battle in 25 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 fighter
                Japanese defend with 1 submarine and 1 transport
                1 submarine owned by the Japanese Submerged
                    Americans roll dice for 1 fighter in 25 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 25 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 bomber moved from Aleutian Islands to British Columbia
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 8 Sea Zone to British Columbia
            1 fighter moved from 25 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 11 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 38 Sea Zone to India
            1 fighter moved from 11 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 11 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands

Place Units - Americans
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 10 Sea Zone
            2 bombers and 2 fighters placed in Western United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 50 PUs; end with 52 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 72 PUs

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 59 / 83
    Russians : 10 / 22
    Japanese : 67 / 73
    Americans : 50 / 72
    Chinese : 6 / 13
    British : 30 / 30
    UK_Pacific : 5 / 3
    Italians : 19 / 29
    ANZAC : 12 / 13
    French : 7 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[wheatbeer]

Didn’t finish the NCM.

Allies concede defeat.

Some people might question gambling on Carolines, but I think 40% there was better than my odds of winning against you playing safe. If I had been lucky, I might have had enough defenders to make a SZ33 counterattack costly for Japan.

[gamerman01]

Excuse me for saying the scrambling decision was obvious, I suppose it really wasn’t totally obvious when you consider counter-attack possibilities

[gamerman01]

@wheatbeer:

Didn’t finish the NCM.

Allies concede defeat.

Some people might question gambling on Carolines, but I think 40% there was better than my odds of winning against you playing safe. If I had been lucky, I might have had enough defenders to make a SZ33 counterattack costly for Japan.

Great -

Good game, Wheatbeer!

I for one am not questioning it -
I was already calculating counterattack on Z33, but assuming you lose all or all but 1 ground unit, I don’t think I would have counterattacked (roughly 85% odds, maybe) because as you pointed out, it would have probably been too costly.

[boldfresh]

good game guys!