13L G40 JapanDOWRound1Fan (Allies+12) v Gamerman01

[gamerman01]

You remember it’s your move, right?  :-)

[JDOW]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 12

Politics - Russians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 110 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 123 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Move - Russians
            6 infantry moved from Tambov to Samara
            2 fighters moved from Volgograd to Samara
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Volgograd to Samara
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Volgograd to Russia
            1 armour moved from Volgograd to Russia
            10 infantry moved from Tambov to Russia
            7 artilleries moved from Tambov to Russia
            2 infantry moved from Tambov to Russia
            2 infantry moved from Tambov to Russia

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Russia
                Russians attack with 1 armour, 7 artilleries, 14 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
                Germans defend with 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry
                Russians win, taking Russia from Germans with 1 armour, 7 artilleries, 11 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
            Battle in Samara
                Russians attack with 2 fighters, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 mech_infantry
                Russians win, taking Samara from Italians with 2 fighters, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 mech_infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            2 aaGuns moved from Tambov to Russia
            3 infantry moved from Tambov to Russia
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Samara to Caucasus
            2 fighters moved from Samara to Caucasus
            1 infantry moved from Tambov to Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 11 PUs; end with 11 PUs total

[JDOW]

Just for the record: this was a (slightly simplified) 8/8 @2 from 2 opponents in a RU12 and a UK1.
I just need to write that down to keep mind that my opponent’s dices by definition can only get worse from here  :lol:

[gamerman01]

You mean they can’t get better!

They could stay the same!  :lol:

[JDOW]

True, so I just hope this is not gonna happen^^

[gamerman01]

Well, I was getting perfect dice (I think) until I lost a bomber to a Chinese artillery

I can’t remember for sure, but I don’t think China can control (collect income) from Hong Kong when India is in Axis hands.  There is an ambiguous statement in the rulebook, but it says in two places that Hong Kong and Burma can not be controlled by China, so I’m going by that.

[gamerman01]

Yes, perfect dice for first 4 battles, but then you started getting luckier :)

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 12

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 armour, 4 destroyers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Kwangsi
            1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea
                  Japanese take New Guinea from ANZAC
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Tsinghai to Volgograd
            1 mech_infantry moved from Tsinghai to Volgograd
            1 bomber moved from Malaya to Kweichow
            1 bomber moved from Malaya to Kweichow
            1 armour moved from Tsinghai to Volgograd
            1 fighter moved from Japan to Siberia
            1 fighter moved from Japan to Siberia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Korea to Siberia
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Philippines to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 mech_infantry moved from Hopei to Anhwe
            1 mech_infantry moved from Tsinghai to Kweichow
            1 fighter moved from Japan to 16 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to Anhwe
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Philippines to Anhwe
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 1 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Tsinghai to Volgograd

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 16 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                Americans defend with 1 submarine
                Japanese win with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
            Battle in 1 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 submarine
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Japanese win, taking 1 Sea Zone from Americans with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in Siberia
                Japanese attack with 2 fighters and 1 mech_infantry
                Americans defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Siberia from Russians with 2 fighters and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Anhwe
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Anhwe from Chinese with 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Kweichow
                Japanese attack with 2 bombers and 1 mech_infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Japanese win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -9
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Kwangsi
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Kwangsi from Chinese with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Volgograd
                Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 2 armour; Russians defend with 1 factory_minor
                Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for British: 2 armour

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 aaGun moved from Tsinghai to Shensi
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Malaya to French Indo China
            1 aaGun moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 aaGun moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 fighter moved from 16 Sea Zone to Japan
            1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Siberia to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Korea to Amur
            1 fighter moved from Anhwe to Kiangsu
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Kiangsu
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Volgograd to Ukraine
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to 35 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to 35 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Kweichow to Kiangsu

Place Units - Japanese
            4 destroyers and 2 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 3 infantry placed in Japan
            Japanese undo move 2.
            1 armour, 1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Japan
            1 infantry placed in Malaya

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 64 PUs; end with 66 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs

[JDOW]

@Gamerman01:

Well, I was getting perfect dice (I think) until I lost a bomber to a Chinese artillery

I can’t remember for sure, but I don’t think China can control (collect income) from Hong Kong when India is in Axis hands.  There is an ambiguous statement in the rulebook, but it says in two places that Hong Kong and Burma can not be controlled by China, so I’m going by that.

Hey Gamerman, are you sure about that? Could you refer to and quote the statements which do not allow China to control Kwangtung at all? I really don’t want to be squeezy or so because I could benefit from China controlling Kwangtung or Burma, however the only words in the rulebook I could find about that to my understanding clearly state the opposite:

Pacific rulebook page 10.

However, Kwangtung
and Burma are special cases. Although they are not Chinese
territories, Chinese forces can move into them. These are
the only non-Chinese territories that Chinese units can
occupy. China can even temporarily control them, but only
if it recaptures them from the Axis while India is under Axis
control

The same is mentioned in the box on the map. To me this really sounds like China can collect income from them if India is under Axis control and in case India would get liberated I would assume them to be converted to UK Pac then.

[JDOW]

I btw know that this means nothing, but TripleA allows china to at least control Burma as happened in Wheatbeer vs Bold:
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=32023.75

Just in case they would not be allowed I would inform them just to spread the news and maybe another bug on the list.

But still, currently I would believe they can control them under the given circumstances in our game.

[gamerman01]

http://www.wizards.com/AvalonHill/rules/AVL1940_RuleBook.pdf

The copy of the 2nd edition rulebook that I am looking at on the Avalon Hill website does not have the statements you describe.  Also, China is on page 9 and not on page 10. We are not looking at the same rulebook.

OK, I found my original Pacific rule book and I see I have penciled in there that Krieghund said that China can indeed control Hong Kong and Burma when India is in Axis hands.

I guess you will be walking in and picking up an easy 3 IPCs then.

[JDOW]

Thanks for clarification. I attached a screenshot of the rulebook I was referring to

Rulebook
–- Pacific 1940 —
Second
Edition

Of course bit weird there are different rulebooks out there. Which one are you referring to? Is there a link? I can not upload mine because it is 87 MB

[gamerman01]

I already provided the link - it’s at the beginning of my previous post!

[JDOW]

Sorry, I should have seen that :-/

[JDOW]

It seems to me you referred to the first edition rule book. I guess the second edition is the latest version and state of the art?

Here is the link of the version I am using:
http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/A&A_Pacific_1940_2ndEd_Rulebook_LR.pdf

[gamerman01]

I must have bookmarked the original rulebook when I thought it was 2nd edition

Got the right one now I guess - thanks

[JDOW]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 12

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 artillery, 4 destroyers, 3 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 93 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 101 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 109 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 2 Sea Zone to 1 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 1 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to Alaska
                  Americans take Alaska from Japanese
            2 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 8 Sea Zone to Aleutian Islands
            2 bombers moved from Western United States to Aleutian Islands
            1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Midway to 16 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to 16 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Queensland to New Guinea
            1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 46 Sea Zone to New Guinea
            1 infantry moved from 46 Sea Zone to New Guinea
            1 fighter moved from Queensland to 46 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 54 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Queensland to 55 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Soviet Far East to Siberia

[JDOW]

Super complicated move, all of US/CHI/UK are connected somehow. I didn’t see a future to take Norway and hold it for one lousy round, even if this could have killed the Bomber in Finland.
I am still nervous because I don’t understand why you deployed it there. The only advantage in that position I see is that you could bring it faster to Japan to have a new can opener.

This is the first time I am actually superstitious and despite the fact that the impact is far from being decisive I kind of feel coursed of never getting my US NorthEast clean and I already predict 2 hits on Aleutian Island from the pesky Japanese Inf there :-/

Kind of funny, but I consider it sports to delay the collapse of the fragile defense of Moscow, Middle East and China as long as possible:D

Asking for submerge orders in SZ93.

[gamerman01]

OK, taking a look now

[gamerman01]

Submerge sub in Z93