The problem is that you’re still using one of your valuable ftr or bmb slots for a glider. And countries like Russia and US, which don’t have a large airforce early in the game can’t really utilize gliders effectly
I would say that Air Transports should be revised to the following stats
Attack: 0
Defense: 0
Movement: 4
Cost: 4
I think that a cost of 4 since this puts them at half cost with transports (given their strengths and weaknesses). I agree, gliders should not take losses in combat, but what if the enemy strafes them on the ground? They’re virtually defenseless.
No what I meant was in the attack the glider couldn’t be taken as a loss. And after that the glider would either be removed or reused.
For example: 3 paratroopers are attacking a area that has only 1 infantry.
2 paratroopers roll a 3 thus a miss then the last one rolls a 2 a hit. The defending infantry rolls a 1 thus a hit. The attacking player couldn’t use a glider to absorb a hit.
If the gliders are in a area that’s under attack the defending player could not use them to take up losses!!
If the area is taken over the gliders are removed from play.
Common sense says you destory stuff that are about to be taken by the enemy.
I think you right though about using up fighters and bombers for that movement. I guess just move the glider with out them.
I see. Or you could make it a rule that gliders immediatey have to find a place to land (in a allied held terriority) after dropping of their payload.
But then how many men are in a one man AaA unit???
if 10,000 then you need on average 500 planes to carry them…
Maybe the Paratroops shouldn’t be a unit but they have a special abilities
(First Round at 2 target no return fire…)
Just an Idea :wink:
They’re not a special unit, just regular infantry with a free ride. :)
I say this: The glider could either land or if it could go back to it’s starting point then it can.
still how many Bombers are in a BOMBER unit…
Don’t know … but, why not become a registered user?
Have thought about it but don’t know how much info you need to give…not that I don’t mind giving info away but I do like privacy
a bomber I see is a squadron of bombers, but for big stuff like BBs and ACs, I tend to give them individual ship names :)
Who cares what size is piece is suppose to be? To me it’s already been equaled out by the makers of the game … so, in my mind each piece is only one (1) unit.
Also, to become registered requires very little information … and you can keep everything private. So hop on in – the water’s fine!
True MB… It is for fun mainly
Eh, before you know it, you’ll becomea A&A Mega Addict.
AIR TRANSPORT (use original A&A bombers)
Movement: 8 land and/or sea zones per turn
Attack factor: 0
Defence factor: 0
Cost: 8 IPCs
During the combat or non-combat movement sequence, an Air transport can carry up to 2 infantry. It must take off in the same territory as the infantry it transports. Infantry may be dropped into any land territory. Attacking paratroops must do so during the combat movement sequence. If the territory is enemy controlled but not occupied by actual units it is captured. Picking up or dropping off infantry does not count against its movement. Note: they are still vulnerable to AA guns and defending fighters. If an Air transport is hit it is lost, although each infantry unit onboard has a chance to survive (parachute) by rolling a 2 or less. They must “drop” into this territory and attack enemy units with their usual strength.
–This is pretty balanced when we play. Your thoughts?
Well, if you ever play W@W you’ll see that they have paratroopers that one buys during production. They cost 1ip more than regular infantry. Note that in this game unit prices for each nation are different.
They attack on a 2 and they defend the same. They also work pretty much like you described. Both have to start on the same territory, However you just use a bomber’s movement. The bomber can’t attack and is limited to one para per bomber. And on top of that once the para is dropped he can continue fighting as a 2 for the rest of the game. Paras were generally armed better than reg troops so it makes some sense… Much like the PanzerGrenadiers that Germany can buy in this game for 2 more ip that attack at 2 defend at 3 and can move 2.
@TG:
They’re not a special unit, just regular infantry with a free ride. :)
True but then on june 5, 1944 the Allied paratroopers were there to destroy infrastructure… not ncessarily special they just were not en masse (you still have to train them)
Go to my Paratrooper guide in Axis and Allies guide!!!
I would like there to be a seperate piece for air transports. They could cost 10 IPCs, move six spaces, have no attack, 1 on defense, and carry land units. Not sure how much though, maybe just go with the naval transport way, any combination of two land units except for tanks, and tanks, AA guns and artillery could only be used for non-combat. The infantry would be paratroopers and attack on a 2 for the first round, then 1.
All that has allready been thought out (basically as you stated) and will be in advanced axis and allies by larry Harris… You will have to wait a few years to actually see that however.
here is the para rules that we use in the CD club
Paratrooper Rules:
Combat movement:
A Bomber can only paratroop 1 infantry per turn per bomber.
Both the bomber and the infantry must be in the same territory at the beginning of combat phase.
If a bomber is shot down at the target, the infantry survives for the combat phase, but the bomber is lost.
Bombers used to paratroop infantry to battle do not engage in ground battle, nor may they conduct IPC raids.
Non-combat movement:
Bombers involved in combat or paratrooping may not be used in non-combat to pick up and transport units.
Bombers can paratroop only 1 infantry per turn and only if that infantry was not invloved in combat.
The bomber and infantry DO NOT need to be in the same territory, and the bomber may move, pickup and drop off the unit within the bomber’s movement range. Picking up or dropping off a unit does not cost the bomber any movements.
If AAA pre-game option is on (Anti-Aircraft guns Always fire) and the bomber is shot down in non-combat move with infantry in it, the infantry is lost as well. If the bomber is shot down by another AA gun after the infantry is dropped, then only the bomber is lost.
Infantry left on bombers that have landed will not defend if attacked. Only the bomber will defend. If the bomber is destroyed, the infantry is lost as well.
Special rules and considerations:
If heavy bombers are attained, the bomber now has a capability of transporting two infantry per bomber for either combat or non-combat use. This is the default A&A game setting and the default rule which requires no edits. If the players consent prior to the game that one infantry per bomber is the maximum, then that is acceptable. Otherwise the two per heavy bomber rule applies.
An infantry may only be used as a paratrooper once, it can never be picked up again by the same or a different bomber. This is a game bug that will be lived with. Even though these infantry may never load onto a bomber again, they act normally in all other respects.
