13 GL Zhukov4 vrs. Boldfresh (allies +9)

[Zhukov44]

Ah I c.

Sorry to say you got really awful dice in Russia.  I won with like 26 more units then I did on my practice run.

[Zhukov44]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :6

Politics - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 artillery and 16 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            4 armour and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Bryansk
            3 armour moved from Rostov to Tambov
                  Germans take Tambov from Russians
            5 mech_infantrys moved from Rostov to Bryansk
            3 armour moved from Tambov to Russia
            1 bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk
            15 armour, 11 artilleries, 6 bombers, 2 fighters, 35 infantry, 20 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Bryansk to Russia
            5 bombers moved from Western Germany to Russia
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France
            1 infantry moved from France to Northern Italy

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Russia
                Germans attack with 18 armour, 11 artilleries, 11 bombers, 2 fighters, 35 infantry, 20 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers
                Russians defend with 4 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 2 armour, 5 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 2 fighters, 70 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
                    AA guns fire in Russia :  3/12 hits
                    1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans and 2 fighters owned by the Germans lost in Russia
                    Germans roll dice for 18 armour, 11 artilleries, 11 bombers, 35 infantry, 20 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Russia, round 1 :  34/96 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 4 aaGuns, 2 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 fighters, 70 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Russia, round 1 :  17/83 hits
                    30 infantry owned by the Russians , 17 infantry owned by the Germans and 4 aaGuns owned by the Russians lost in Russia
                    Germans roll dice for 18 armour, 11 artilleries, 11 bombers, 18 infantry, 20 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Russia, round 2 :  33/79 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 fighters, 40 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Russia, round 2 :  16/53 hits
                    33 infantry owned by the Russians and 16 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Russia
                    Germans roll dice for 18 armour, 11 artilleries, 11 bombers, 2 infantry, 20 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Russia, round 3 :  22/63 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 fighters, 7 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Russia, round 3 :  6/20 hits
                    7 infantry owned by the Russians , 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Russians , 2 armour owned by the Russians , 2 infantry owned by the Germans , 3 mech_infantrys owned by the Russians , 5 artilleries owned by the Russians , 2 fighters owned by the Russians and 4 artilleries owned by the Germans lost in Russia
                Germans captures 33PUs while taking Russians capital
                Germans converts factory_major into different units
                Germans win, taking Russia from Russians with 18 armour, 7 artilleries, 11 bombers, 20 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 153
                Casualties for Germans: 4 artilleries, 2 fighters, 35 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for Russians: 4 aaGuns, 2 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 fighters, 70 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber

Non Combat Move - Germans
            5 bombers moved from Russia to Germany
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Bryansk
            6 bombers moved from Russia to Bryansk
            3 aaGuns moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy
            1 infantry moved from France to Northern Italy
            1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy

Place Units - Germans
            3 infantry placed in France
            1 artillery and 6 infantry placed in Western Germany
            4 infantry placed in Germany
            3 infantry placed in Western Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 51 PUs; end with 84 PUs total
            Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 89 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 99 PUs

Territory Summary for Germans :

Normandy Bordeaux : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Southern France : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    France : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_minor and 4 infantry
    Western Germany : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour and 9 infantry
    Germany : 1 aaGun, 5 bombers, 1 factory_major and 5 infantry
    Northern Italy : 4 aaGuns and 2 infantry
    Southern Italy : 1 artillery
    Baltic States : 1 flag
    Bryansk : 6 bombers and 1 tactical_bomber
    Vyborg : 1 flag
    Archangel : 1 flag
    Eastern Poland : 1 flag
    Russia : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 18 armour, 7 artilleries, 1 factory_minor and 20 mech_infantrys
    Tambov : 1 flag
    Western Ukraine : 1 flag
    Novgorod : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Smolensk : 1 flag
    106 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    Bulgaria : 1 flag
    121 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    Yugoslavia : 1 flag

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 51 / 99
    Russians : 21 / 0
    Japanese : 64 / 70
    Americans : 52 / 73
    Chinese : 0 / 4
    British : 36 / 36
    UK_Pacific : 6 / 6
    Italians : 20 / 20
    ANZAC : 10 / 12
    French : 5 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 60 times
            2 was rolled 57 times
            3 was rolled 73 times
            4 was rolled 69 times
            5 was rolled 76 times
            6 was rolled 71 times
        Average roll : 3.633
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 0.706
        Standard Deviation : 0.840
        Total rolls : 406

Germans Combat
            1 was rolled 38 times
            2 was rolled 35 times
            3 was rolled 42 times
            4 was rolled 36 times
            5 was rolled 41 times
            6 was rolled 46 times
        Average roll : 3.609
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 0.371
        Standard Deviation : 0.609
        Total rolls : 238

Russians Combat
            1 was rolled 22 times
            2 was rolled 22 times
            3 was rolled 31 times
            4 was rolled 33 times
            5 was rolled 35 times
            6 was rolled 25 times
        Average roll : 3.667
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 0.982
        Standard Deviation : 0.991
        Total rolls : 168

[boldfresh]

Let me guess I was way below average on every roll but the aa roll where I got one more hit than expected.  Ridiculous.

[boldfresh]

Its not even fun when the germans cant take any casualties on defense.  I think in the two big land battles of the game combined you have come out with about 40 extra land units or something way beyond stupid.

[boldfresh]

Tell me if im wrong but I think u were expected to come out of that battle with little more than tanks and aircraft or did I miscalculate badly somehow?  U were about +25 units right?

[boldfresh]

Just take the win I dont even want to look at the map.

[boldfresh]

The two minor battles I did decently in were finland and z91 but they pale in comparison to the france wipeout which rolled into an even bigger moscow wipeout.  I should have conceded after g1.

Cheers thanks for the game I guess.  Too bad the dice were so wicked to the allies.

[gamerman01]

@Boldfresh:

Tell me if im wrong but I think u were expected to come out of that battle with little more than tanks and aircraft or did I miscalculate badly somehow?  U were about +25 units right?

According to my approximations, you could only expect to be starting to get into his artillery.

25 percentile to 75 percentile was German winning with 1 infantry (0 artillery lost) to 6 artillery surviving

[gamerman01]

I had to approximate because that was too many units for my calculator to handle.  I took it after round 1, assuming average round 1 results (you were like 12 hits under on the first round)

[gamerman01]

And then he was able to take off artillery because he didn’t need the firepower…

He came out at least 20 mech extra, maybe 25, like you said, yeah

[boldfresh]

like i said, not worth continuing.  game was completely ruined by dice - the germans were virtually invincible  :|

[gamerman01]

Like you said, you probably could have quit after G1, so this dicing in Moscow was kind of moot, right?  And maybe saved you a bunch of time fighting a losing cause, if it wasn’t as lopsided?

Tip your cap and rematch?

[boldfresh]

nah i know better than rematch a man whose dice are on fire.  i’ll stay away from him for a while and wait till they cool off.

[boldfresh]

round 1 the german was 4 hits over and the russian was 12 hits under.  second round the german was 6 hits over and the russian was 3 hits under.  even the last round the russian was 2 hits under.  incredible.

you are COLD zhukov, for not even offering the slightest apology…  :-P

[gamerman01]

Maybe it’s in the game notes  :lol:

[boldfresh]

i’ll tell ya what i WILL do.  i will take you on Zhuk, switch sides and
we start the game after your perfect G1.   :-P

[Zhukov44]

GG.  It was entertaining and I learned alot as it went.

Opening dice are really important, so even though the 91 dicing was severe, I’ll concede the dice were favoring me up till Moscow.  It was 110 more than France that hurt u.  Moscow was absurd, but I’d be in great position with average dice too.

If dice are frustrating you, try low luck.  There’s a few low luck TripleA AA50 experts who would like to be playing on these forums but they only want to play low luck (they don’t like losing–it’s unfortunate but there it is).  That was the secret to my modest success as an aa50 player–I practiced my strats against the guys on the TripleA ladder, who were formidable.  With Global, though, there’s no ladder so it’s either the lobby or here.

If you and/or Gamer ever have time for a live game on the lobby let me know and maybe we can arrange it!

[gamerman01]

Thanks for the invite, Zhukov, I’ll keep that in mind

[boldfresh]

That is about as bad as dice can get in a battle that large.  If you had been down to mostly tanks and aircraft I would have continued.  But having so many extra units was a game ender.  No thanks on low luck I like the challenge of full luck because this very thing can happen at any time.  My pride isnt too big to take a few hits like this  :-P

Until next time…

[Cow]

Game ruined by dice?

You just got outplayed, big time, boldfresh. How does russia have no allied fighters to defend himself with? Anzac, uk, and america typically send something to help.

Average expected units left after taking russia was 36 - that is ridiculous. You put yourself in this position with your gameplay.