#2 L21 PTV ArtofWar (AX+5) v max334 (AL)

[max334]

If not too late, can i put a 2nd UK ftr on carrier in z112

[ArtofWar1947]

@max334

Sure.

[max334]

triplea_37514_3ita.tsvg

[ArtofWar1947]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 4

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0

Game History

Round: 4

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
              Germans take Karelia from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
              Germans take Vyborg from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Leningrad
              Germans take Leningrad from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus
              Germans take Southern Belarus from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus
              Germans take Northern Belarus from Russians
        1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
              Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians
        1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 94 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone
        1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Gibraltar to 107 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from France to 107 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Western Germany to 107 Sea Zone

    Combat - Germans

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

[ArtofWar1947]

@artofwar1947

I added the UK fighter to the CV in 112 and 2 Japanese infantry to Korea.

Scramble UK fighter from CV in 112 to defend US feet in 107?

OOL for sea battle in 107?

[max334]

@artofwar1947 damn, I didn’t see all those ftrs. Thats going to hurt. Scramble ftr and Max D unless something weird happens

[max334]

so i dont have to give up a second game, let me move the fleet to z111. If by chance I win the game we just dont post the win. If I lose I’ll post your win.

[max334]

game with changes if acceptable triplea_37514_3ita x1.tsvg

[ArtofWar1947]

@max334

The US fleet to 112 would be illegal, as it is 4 sea zones from 104.

Redoing US/UK-3 would mean throwing away the two hours of effort needed to plan IT-3 and G-4 and replanning and redoing both.

Although the deal is a really good one for Allies, it is a really bad one for the Axis, trading what might be a relatively quick win for what might be a relatively long and difficult one or worse (a lost). I’ve not had good luck giving such breaks in the past.

[max334]

US fleet in sz111 not 112. It doesnt look like much planning changes for Italy. Take another look pls, I dont think it makes that much of a difference in the balance of the game

[max334]

I think your playing for the fun of playing (planning and strategizing) not just for the win. I can give you a win, no worries, but lets enjoy the game

[ArtofWar1947]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 6.1.0

Game History

Round: 4

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
              Germans take Karelia from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
              Germans take Vyborg from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Leningrad
              Germans take Leningrad from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus
              Germans take Southern Belarus from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus
              Germans take Northern Belarus from Russians
        1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
              Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians
        1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 94 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone
        1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Gibraltar to 107 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from France to 107 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Western Germany to 107 Sea Zone

    Combat - Germans
        Americans scrambles 1 units out of 112 Sea Zone to defend against the attack in 107 Sea Zone
        Battle in 107 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 bomber, 6 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter; Americans defend with 2 artilleries, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 marine, 3 submarines and 2 transports
            3 submarines owned by the Americans submerged
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 6 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 107 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6/11 hits, 6.17 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 2 transports in 107 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                1 cruiser owned by the Americans, 1 destroyer owned by the British, 1 fighter owned by the Germans, 1 carrier owned by the Americans, 2 fighters owned by the Americans and 1 marine owned by the Americans lost in 107 Sea Zone
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 5 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 107 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/10 hits, 5.67 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 transports in 107 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Americans, 2 artilleries owned by the Americans, 2 transports owned by the Americans, 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 107 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 bomber, 5 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 76
            Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
            Casualties for Americans: 2 artilleries, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 marine and 2 transports
            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
        Trigger Germans Destroy Factories Leningrad: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Germans in Leningrad

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Southern Manchuria: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Korea: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Trigger Leningrad Has Fallen to Germans Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Russian_Leningrad_Factory_May_Be_Destroyed attached to Germans
        1 aaGun, 5 armour, 4 artilleries, 9 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys moved from Baltic States to Leningrad
        1 aaGun, 3 armour, 7 artilleries, 15 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus
        1 armour moved from Poland to Northern Belarus
        1 mech_infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
        2 armour moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
        1 infantry moved from France to Southern France
        1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Southern France to 95 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 marine moved from Morocco to 94 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France
        1 fighter moved from Finland to Western Germany
        1 submarine moved from 100 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 127 Sea Zone
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 107 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        2 fighters moved from 107 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 107 Sea Zone to France
        1 bomber and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 107 Sea Zone to Western Germany

    Place Units - Germans
        1 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
        1 infantry placed in Southern France
        1 destroyer placed in 95 Sea Zone
        2 fighters placed in France
        2 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
        1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Western Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 54 PUs; end with 54 PUs
        Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 57 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Holland Belgium: 1 aaGun
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from France: 1 aaGun
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Normandy Bordeaux: 2 aaGuns
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -1.67
Germans regular : -2.83

Savegame

[ArtofWar1947]

@artofwar1947

Just saw the note about SZ 111. I’ll redo I-3 and G-4, but I need time to rethink G4 particularly. I probably have to wait until tomorrow AM to repost. (I have a busy day ahead.)

[ArtofWar1947]

@artofwar1947

I down loaded your revised file, but could not open it. Just tell me what your edits are and I’ll put them in. This is the last bail out.

[max334]

@artofwar1947 move the US fleet to sz111 including the 2 DDs from sz93 and the UK DD to sz112

[ArtofWar1947]

@max334
Leave the UK fleet (CV, 2 fighters, SS, & 2 trans) in 112?

[max334]

yes, but include the UK DD that was with the US fleet in sz107

[max334]

@max334 UK fleet in 112 (CV, 2 fighters, SS, & 2 trans) and the destroyer

[ArtofWar1947]

@max334

With the crushing demands of my job for the foreseeable future and two other PTV games, which have become protracted dogfights, I do not have the time and energy to rethink my G-4 turn and unnecessarily handicap the Axis cause in our game. Please use the G-4 turn previously posted to continue our game. This would be a worthwhile exercise if–for no other reason–than to test your Pacific strategy.

[ArtofWar1947]

@artofwar1947

Bump 1.