XDAP-03 Ancients for 1945 vs The Fighting Mongooses

[Me1945]

Hold on Mongooses. Give us some time pls.

[wheatbeer]

No worries.

TripleA isn’t coded 100% perfect, so Veqryn listed certain exceptions within the in-program game description.

"Rules the engine does not do, but you must follow:

• Do not allow blitzing or movement through Friendly Neutrals.
• Air units may not land in or move through Friendly Neutrals, including the same turn they are captured.
• Friendly Neutrals can not be ‘captured’ with an AA Gun, only by land units with an attack power.
• Air units may not move through Unfriendly Neutrals unless they are attacking them.
• If UK Pacific captures Japan, the money goes to UK Pacific, even if UK Pacific’s capital is occupied.
• Do not allow USA movement to end in Sea Zones 17, 22, 32, 33, 34, and 37."

[wheatbeer]

I’m waiting for kilroy’s opinion about Italy anyways, so we have plenty of time to be sure of the rule.

[lexgreat]

Rulebook is pretty clear, and there is nothing more actual. No landing in Persia. We think about an alternative, but let you know in time, dont want to hold play.

[lexgreat]

Pls take this file, thx

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3 Final, version: 3.3

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to France
            1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Albania to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Northern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 cruiser moved from 95 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                  Italians take Anglo Egyptian Sudan from British

Combat - Italians
            Battle in France
                Italians attack with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
                French defend with 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 factory_major and 1 fighter
                    Italians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in France, round 1 :  2/4 hits
                    French roll dice for 1 armour and 1 fighter in France, round 1 :  1/2 hits
                    1 armour owned by the French , 1 fighter owned by the French and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in France
                Italians captures 19PUs while taking French capital
                Italians converts factory_major into different units
                Italians win, taking France from French with 2 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13
                Casualties for French: 1 armour and 1 fighter
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Yugoslavia
                Italians attack with 1 armour and 2 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 2 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Yugoslavia
                Italians win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 1 armour and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 1 infantry
            Battle in Egypt
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                ANZAC defend with 2 infantry; British defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 cruiser in Egypt, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Egypt, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 4 infantry in Egypt, round 1 :  0/4 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Egypt
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Egypt, round 2 :  2/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 2 infantry in Egypt, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the British lost in Egypt
                Italians win, taking Egypt from British with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
            Trigger Italians Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French
            Trigger Japanese Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Ethiopia
            1 bomber moved from Egypt to Ethiopia
            1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to France
            1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone

Place Units - Italians
            1 fighter placed in Southern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 19 PUs; end with 38 PUs total
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 43 PUs

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 33 / 46
    Russians : 37 / 37
    Japanese : 28 / 44
    Americans : 52 / 52
    Chinese : 10 / 16
    British : 30 / 39
    UK_Pacific : 17 / 17
    Italians : 19 / 43
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 12 / 0
    Dutch : 11 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 4 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[wheatbeer]

Need to edit your NCM onto the map, one sec.

[wheatbeer]

Here you go.

[lexgreat]

Risk rewarded!

[wheatbeer]

Just so you know, when you EDIT UK units, no matter where they’re coming from or going to, they have to be added as British units not UK_Pacific units or else it causes a bug when you try to use them the next turn.

[wheatbeer]

Indeed … we pretty much have to play high-risk style to have any shot  :lol:

I’m glad kilroy approved of my reckless thinking.

[lexgreat]

ah ok. Weird anyway, this separation.

[lexgreat]

I was certain our boys would hit once out of 6 times :)
Surprised that Italy took Paris, I am.

[Me1945]

just looked into 2nd edition rules book, Wheat is right. Apologies, back to original file, my fault.

What rules we are playing? These http://www.harrisgamedesign.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=6149 or 2nd edition? Particularly, what about the Soviet-Mongolian Defense Pact when Russia takes Korea while Mongolia is still a strict neutral?

Any other TripleA bugs? I see Poland adjacent to sz115 in TripleA which is not in the original map.

[Trajan01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3 Final, version: 3.3

Game History

Round :1

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 destroyer; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
                  ANZAC take Java from Dutch
            2 fighters moved from New Zealand to Queensland
            1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 63 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            2 aaGuns and 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 destroyer placed in 62 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 16 PUs total

[lexgreat]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3 Final, version: 3.3

Game History

Round :1

Combat Move - French
            1 cruiser moved from 110 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria
            1 infantry moved from French West Africa to French Central Africa
            1 destroyer moved from 72 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan
            1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria

[wheatbeer]

@Me1945:

What rules we are playing? These http://www.harrisgamedesign.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=6149 or 2nd edition? Particularly, what about the Soviet-Mongolian Defense Pact when Russia takes Korea while Mongolia is still a strict neutral?

Any other TripleA bugs? I see Poland adjacent to sz115 in TripleA which is not in the original map.

I assumed we’re playing alpha 3 final (+ Soviet bomber) since the tourney thread still indicates alpha 3 and I didn’t see any notice from Gargantua changing it.  I noticed that one team decided to play 2nd edition rules anyways though.

I never even noticed the Poland/SZ115 error.  You should post that discovery here so it can be fixed:
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=26989.0

Aside from movement related to neutrals (listed in the game description), I don’t know of any other tripleA issues that impacts gameplay.  If you see something that you think isn’t working right, let us know though.

[wheatbeer]

Markus,

You used the Italian map without the edited NCM 1 UK tact IND >> TANG … do you still want the tact in TANG?

[lexgreat]

yes. sorry, was under the impression you edited that before Italy and never checked. Thx for putting it there!

[wheatbeer]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3 Final, version: 3.3

Game History

Round :2

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            2 tactical_bombers moved from 112 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
            5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
            2 bombers moved from Southern Italy to Greece
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 96 Sea Zone
            3 armour moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
                  Germans take Holland Belgium from British
            3 armour moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux

Combat - Germans
            Battle in 104 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                French defend with 1 cruiser
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 104 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    French roll dice for 1 cruiser in 104 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 cruiser owned by the French lost in 104 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for French: 1 cruiser
            Battle in 91 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 91 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 tactical_bombers in 91 Sea Zone, round 1 :  2/2 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 91 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 transport owned by the British and 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 91 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 fighter
                British defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the British lost in 96 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for British: 1 transport
            Battle in Greece
                Germans attack with 2 bombers and 5 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 5 infantry in Greece, round 1 :  2/7 hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 4 infantry in Greece, round 1 :  2/4 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Germans and 2 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Greece
                    Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 3 infantry in Greece, round 2 :  3/5 hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 2 infantry in Greece, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Greece
                Germans win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 2 bombers and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans attack with 5 armour and 1 mech_infantry
                French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry; British defend with 1 armour
                    Germans roll dice for 5 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 1 :  4/6 hits
                    French roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the French , 1 armour owned by the British , 1 artillery owned by the French and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 5 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to Egypt
            2 bombers moved from Greece to Egypt
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Egypt
            2 tactical_bombers moved from 91 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 112 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany
            3 aaGuns moved from Western Germany to Germany
            3 infantry moved from Poland to Slovakia Hungary

Place Units - Germans
            2 artilleries and 6 infantry placed in Germany
            2 fighters placed in Western Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 40 PUs; end with 40 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 45 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 50 PUs

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 40 / 50
    Russians : 37 / 37
    Japanese : 28 / 44
    Americans : 52 / 52
    Chinese : 10 / 16
    British : 27 / 39
    UK_Pacific : 17 / 17
    Italians : 19 / 43
    ANZAC : 14 / 16
    French : 10 / 0
    Dutch : 7 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0